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by AledM11
Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:41 am
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Topic: Primer: Mardu Midrange
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Has anyone thought about turning this into a mardu burn and fliers deck?
Essentially we are playing the Jeskai game of burn + flying threats but taking on mardu options instead....

2cmc - seeker/alterac bloodseeker?
3cmc - rabblemaster/herald of torment/master of the feast/ hushwing gryff
4cmc - ashcloud phoenix/butcher
5cmc- sarkhan/stormbreath/wingmate roc

replace jeskai charm with crackling doom, run a similar burn package....onto a winner perhaps?
by AledM11
Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:13 am
Forum: Archives
Topic: Primer: Mardu Midrange
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Mardu midrange is doing really well in the pro tour from what i saw. Should be interesting to see how far it gets.
by AledM11
Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:55 pm
Forum: Archives
Topic: Primer: Mardu Midrange
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[deck]Spells:

4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Butcher of the Horde
4 Crackling Doom
2 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
4 Lightning Strike
4 Raise the Alarm
4 Seeker of the Way
1 Spear of Heliod
1 Hall of Triumph
4 Mardu Charm
2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
1 Dictate of Heliod

Lands:
3 Temple of Triumph
2 Nomad Outpost
4 Bloodstained Mire
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Swamp
2 Mountain
4 Caves of Koilos
4 Battlefield Forge
3 Temple of Silence

SB:
1 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
2 Arc Lightning
1 Read the Bones
1 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
1 Chandra, Pyromaster
2 Magma Spray
2 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
2 Despise[/deck]

Sideboards not real and just a pile of cards. This deck is good because Anthems are really good in this set and the token makers are a combination of versatile and have synergy with all the cards in the deck. They protect walkers, get aggressive sorin and anthems, give value to the demon, and trigger seeker of the way.

At the GPT my friend won with his more midrangey walker heavy mardu deck but he noted that thoughtseize was terrible and he played the token pseudo mirror and felt very disadvantaged winning only to getting lucky. We toke some ideas from that deck, added hall, spear, and dictate and cut the disruption package and champion, and here we are. Deck seems very strong and with raise the alarm, the curve is MUCH better.
Have you tested this build much yet? Could have potential i suppose :) Doesn't lose too much of the more general midrange build to more closely resemble the mardu token deck.
How are your aggro matchups working out?
by AledM11
Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:13 pm
Forum: Archives
Topic: Primer: Mardu Midrange
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Seems real bad without more ways to abuse it. Synergy with rabblemaster isn't exactly good, Butcher synergy is fine, sorin synergy is actually good, but I'd want 1 or 2 more little interactions to get value from before I put outburst in my Mardu deck.
I think to mak it good this deck needs some number of Purphoros, Dictate of Heliod and spear of heliod. 2/3*1/1s for 2/3 isnt backbreaking, however 2/3*2/2 or 3/3 for 2/3 is quite good.

Also I noticed not a lot of bile blights in tournament.

Definitely going down the mardu tokens route. It's a different deck to this really.
I want to test a version of the deck with some 1 and 2 drops (not many) to give us something to do early game against some aggro decks or to put pressure on the jeskai tempo decks....get their hp lower or to at least give them targets for some of their optional burn.

Seeker of the way springs to mind.....Kill it or im likely to gain life...and hurt them....
by AledM11
Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:34 am
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Topic: Primer: Mardu Midrange
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If you really want my opinion, I'd try a build with champion, seeker, demon, rabbles, and walkers+removal/thoughtseize.

Best removal is downfall, doom, and burn.
My thoughts exactly.
by AledM11
Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:17 am
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Topic: Primer: Mardu Midrange
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I think outburst and raise the alarm don't fit the deck. Unless we go the pure mardu token route then I think some cheap burn in the form of magma jet is just better.
by AledM11
Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:50 am
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Topic: Primer: Mardu Midrange
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Tested a stock list against Abzan midrange and UB control yesterday. I felt the Abzan midrange matchup is definitely in our favour. The control deck was an interesting brew. It was able to drag games out but we got there in the end. 2 of my friends are building the jeskai burn deck. I'll be able to test some lists out there.
by AledM11
Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:43 pm
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Topic: Primer: Mardu Midrange
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I don't really think that's where we want to be. You have to ask yourself, why not just play Jeskai? I think the full 4x Ram and 4x Anger might work best. I do not feel you are the beatdown in this matchup and we basicslly should be going full control.
I think butcher and crackling doom are incredibly strong cards that we can have access to and that jeskai don't. Given the prevelance of aggro decks and this jeskai burn deck i don't think we should be mainboarding thoughtseize anymore. I've been testing a very quick draft of the deck tonight with seeker in the 60 and its been outstanding every time Ive used it. So far ive played vairants of mono green devotion and temur midrange/monsters and its been fantastic and going with
magma jets in the main helps out a ton too. Finding the right balanceso f crackling dooms/strikes/jets and downfalls/stokes is definitely a WIP but I really do feel seeker has a place in this deck. He allows you to have a slightly more aggressive manabase and play things on curve too.
Pre-sideboard we then have a potential 10 sources of lifegain to deal with fast aggro decks/burn.
4 seekers
4 butchers
2 sorin
Its worth investigating at least. Here's my slap-dash list that ive been testing on cockatrice.

3 Stoke the Flames
4 Lightning Strike
4 Crackling Doom
3 Magma Jet

4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Butcher of the Horde
3 Stormbreath Dragon
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
4 Seeker of the Way

2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
2 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker

2 Mountain
2 Swamp
4 Caves of Koilos
1 Battlefield Forge
3 Bloodstained Mire
2 Mana Confluence
4 Nomad Outpost
2 Temple of Malice
1 Temple of Triumph
2 Temple of Silence
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth



Sideboard would include rams, solid
removal, angers, more lategame wincons, thoughtseizes... stuff along those lines.
by AledM11
Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:08 pm
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Topic: Primer: Mardu Midrange
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Are there any other decent, cheap lifegain spells? If he connected with Rabble into Sorin / Butcher the game would have gone differently.

I wonder if Hordling Outburst or Mardu Charm would be better than Brimaz?
I cant think of any. The only solution that springs to mind is literally forming our deck in a similar fashion to these jeskai tempo ones. If you look at the structure of both decks they are quite similar! They play rabble, we play rabble, they play stormbreaths and sarkhans...so do we!
My first thoughts were to take a leaf out of their book and play seeker of the way mainboard in the same fashion they do. We run enough instants to benefit from it. Could we twist this deck into a mardu midrange-burn type of deck?

Ive tested both of those cards and both seemed unimpressive to me, personally. I'd much rather run some seekers and lower the costly removal for the likes of magma jets in order to ease our draws in both digging for new threats and hitting the land we want. That way we'd mimic the jeskai decks in utilising seeker of the way to hit through cayatids and coursers, aswell as gaining life. If we put those and rams in the same deck i think the matchup would swing in our favour substantially. I'm also considering the use of stoke the flames over downfall in the long run too.

What do you think?

Edit: Could possibly use deflecting palm in the matchup too. Rebounding jeskai charms seems strong....even if we let them get a big rabblemaster and blow them out with palm followed by a stormbreath/butcher swing...
by AledM11
Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:56 pm
Forum: Archives
Topic: Primer: Mardu Midrange
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Views: 219651

Definitely loving the look of these decks. I built one a few days back which happened to be very similar to Goss's deck this weekend. Will post any results I get here. Coming second is pretty promosing! Just have to work out how we deal with the mass amounts of jeskai burn in the format now....

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