Malicious attacks on websites
(23:23:41) Yomako01: Hi there, It's Yomako
(23:25:58) Yomako01: I am sorry for this
(23:26:25) GutterNS: Hey
(23:26:42) Yomako01: hey there
(23:26:53) GutterNS: No worries, it is I that should apologise since our site is involved in thiss srt of activities
(23:27:00) GutterNS: sort
(23:27:56) Yomako01: That's okay
(23:28:23) GutterNS: But whoever is pulling this is not getting away with it
(23:28:40) GutterNS: apparentyl more than 60 persons have received threats
(23:28:44) GutterNS: according to Onar
(23:29:06) Yomako01: that is amazing, considering
(23:29:17) GutterNS: So its important that we gather as much material and evidence as we can and forward it to the authorities
(
23:29:39) Yomako01: I have a confession to make
(23:29:50) GutterNS: Onar already sent me the emails your account sent him when you were hacked.
(23:31:03) Yomako01: yup, those were real, I'd send you copies if I had them
(23:31:44) Yomako01: not to infect you, just to prove that
(23:32:10) GutterNS: I have them I'm re-forwaring you the emails so you can have them then, just don't click the link ofc.
(23:32:23) Yomako01: of course
(23:33:00) Yomako01: the account was hacked, but the MTGC email...
(23:34:15) Yomako01: I'm so sorry
(23:34:16) GutterNS: yeah don't feel bad about having deleted it, these things are kept by the ISP for a week or so
(23:34:28) GutterNS: its an honest mistake
(23:34:44) GutterNS: the authorities can just ask for them and then resume their investigations
(23:35:03) Yomako01: have you reported it?
(23:36:13) Yomako01: because there is something you
should know
(23:36:25) GutterNS: Well I though you were in the London area, so I was looking for whoever handled counterterrorism and/or internet crime in the london region, but then Onar alerted me that you are actually in Whales
(23:36:45) Yomako01: please stop the report
(23:36:46) GutterNS: so its best if its handled by someone close to you, maybe they want to ask you questions in person
(23:36:57) GutterNS: what do you mean?
(23:37:59) Yomako01: the MTGC email was not real, it was born from a miscommunication from me to onar
(23:38:10) GutterNS: what?
(23:38:23) GutterNS: a misunderstanding?
(23:38:29) Yomako01: yes
(23:38:58) GutterNS: wait wait wait, explain me this please, this is a very important situation
(23:39:11) Yomako01: please allow me to explain what happened over the last year
(23:39:15) GutterNS: 60 people have been receiveng threats man
(23:39:23) GutterNS: well ok go ahead
(23:
40:03) Yomako01: Onar has been pressuring me hard to join his forums for him
(23:40:24) Yomako01: Do articles, mod etc
(23:41:47) Yomako01: which, I have been trying to think of a way of stopping him, since it was becoming a major scorce of stress and anxiety
(23:42:44) GutterNS: carry on...
(23:43:32) Yomako01: Then this week I looked at MTGC for the first time and was horrified by some of the things I saw
(23:44:01) Yomako01: Sorry, I am very thin skinned
(23:44:23) GutterNS: np our site is not for all ages, so to say...
(23:45:13) Yomako01: And several of my friends were bought into it (Teia etc)
(23:45:36) Yomako01: And the things said shook me to the core
(23:46:24) Yomako01: I know people are entitled to their opinions
(23:46:40) Yomako01: but the impact was huge
(23:47:08) Yomako01: I then noticed Onar's username was there
(23:47:39) Yomako01: So I thought to tell him what I
found
(23:47:48) Yomako01: Sorry
(23:48:33) GutterNS: ok but what does this have to do with the threats towards MTGS members?
(23:48:59) GutterNS: they are somehow real right? because this is unnacceptable
(23:49:11) GutterNS: please tell me this isn't some sort of fabrication
(23:49:29) Yomako01: I know not of any threats
(23:49:54) Yomako01: I never once saw or made reference to threats
(23:49:57) GutterNS: Because I'm taking this very seriously. I have barely slept since yesterday, when I came back from my easter vacations and I was informed of all this by Onar
(23:50:49) Yomako01: I apologise, but I do not know where the threats are coming from
(23:51:08) Yomako01: I have not revived any threats
(23:51:20) Yomako01: *recieved
(23:51:30) GutterNS: :frowns:
(23:51:50) Yomako01: From the bottom of my heart, I am sorry
(23:52:00) GutterNS: you guys from MTGS never stop being a
disappointment for myself
(23:52:19) Yomako01: I know, I really do
(23:52:21) GutterNS: Do you realise how much this issue has bothered me since yesteerday?
(23:52:37) Yomako01: I do now
(23:52:49) GutterNS: Put yourself in my shoes
(23:53:18) Yomako01: I know, you came back from vacation to find what you found
(23:53:59) Yomako01: After no rest, I can understand entirely
(23:54:04) GutterNS: Imagine you wanted to make a site for you and your friends to hang out in peace, you leave for a few days on easster vacations, away from the internet, and you come back to learn that "apparently" your site is being used as a platform for tterrorist threats
(23:54:39) Yomako01: I know, Scumbag, I know
(23:55:34) GutterNS: You really should think for a minute about the consequences of your acts
(23:56:12) GutterNS: how hard was it to tell Onar that because of school or something you couldn't take up responsabilities on his
site?
(23:56:30) GutterNS: instead of... this...
(23:56:54) Yomako01: I know, I wanted to tell him, but I was scared
(23:57:18) Yomako01: remember this has been going on for some time
(23:57:53) Yomako01: (I suffer from Anxiety problems which I am medicated for)
(23:59:24) Yomako01: I couldn't bring myself to do so because I feared for both his wrath and feelings
(00:00:01) GutterNS: Yes, but your actions were hurtful of him too come to think of it
(00:00:32) Yomako01: I know, ironically, I wanted to help
(00:00:39) GutterNS: I think you owe him an apology too, he even resigned over the technicial position he fought so hard for at MTGC
(00:00:55) GutterNS: :sigh:
(00:01:13) Yomako01: I know, I will give it tommorrow.
(00:02:00) Yomako01: Scumbag, I am sorry for all the trouble I have caused
(00:02:15) GutterNS: I'm going to give you an advice: You need to reevaluate the way you handle with
the expectations of others
(00:02:42) Yomako01: I know, but Scumbag, how?
(00:02:48) GutterNS: You should not be afraid of simply telling NO to people
(00:03:10) Yomako01: That is what I need to do
(00:03:11) GutterNS: Mmost people are used to rejection
(00:03:24) GutterNS: And you cannot please everyone
(00:03:55) Yomako01: On more than one occasion, I cried over all the pressure
(00:05:12) Yomako01: *extends my hand*
(00:05:39) GutterNS: allright allright
(00:05:46) GutterNS: lets do this
(00:06:06) Yomako01: handshake?
(00:06:06) GutterNS: We all make mistakes
(00:06:33) GutterNS: sure, I'm willing to forgive you over all this anxiety I had over this
(00:06:53) GutterNS: but you really need to make amends man
(00:07:19) GutterNS: It's important that we take responsability for our acts
(00:07:24) GutterNS: do you agree?
(00:07:28) Yomako01: yes, I do.
(00:
07:38) Yomako01: Yes, I agree
(00:08:16) Yomako01: Tommorrow I will apologise to Onar
(00:08:57) Yomako01: And I will tell him that I cannot help him
(00:09:07) GutterNS: I think the good course of action is for you to issue a public apology to Onar, and to all those who were affected by this ordeal
(00:09:26) Yomako01: Yes
(00:09:34) GutterNS: and then you will resign over your staff position on magecraft
(00:09:51) Yomako01: That is absolutely fine
(00:09:59) GutterNS: you need to have some assertivity if you want to move forward with your future
(00:10:16) GutterNS: to avoid drama, its better you do it on magecraft instead of MTGC
(00:10:27) Yomako01: Yes
(00:10:34) GutterNS: since you don't feel at ease there (understandable)
(00:10:42) GutterNS: do you agree to this?
(00:10:50) Yomako01: yup, I agree
(00:11:04) GutterNS: It's not only for us and Onar, but also for you
n(00:11:39) GutterNS: you need to be in control of your life, not taking detours for avoiding doing things you don't want to do
(00:12:02) Yomako01: I need to put right the wrongs I have caused and prevent them from happening by being more assertive
(00:13:09) Yomako01: I am sorry for all the trouble I caused you
(00:13:30) GutterNS: Allright, as long as the lesson i learned, we are cool
(00:13:37) GutterNS: is learned
(00:14:26) Yomako01: yup, and one more thing, can you keep the IM contents privately?
(00:14:42) GutterNS: yes of course
(00:15:06) Yomako01: Thank you
(00:15:34) Yomako01: I apologise for all the I'll feeling MTGS has caused
(00:17:19) GutterNS: eh, I'm starting to get used to it unfortunately
(00:18:06) Yomako01: Sorry, If it is of any comfort, I do not represent them
(00:20:30) GutterNS: OK, let bygones be bygones
(00:20:46) GutterNS: I'm going to have to go
now
(00:20:56) GutterNS: Got to get up early tomorrow
(00:20:56) Yomako01: Scumbag, thank you for helping
(00:21:09) Yomako01: goodnight
(00:21:15) Yomako01: me too
(00:21:30) GutterNS: np, thanks for coming out clean. Be more assertive in the fure ok?
(00:22:04) Yomako01: I will, I promise
(00:23:24) GutterNS: see ya
(23:25:58) Yomako01: I am sorry for this
(23:26:25) GutterNS: Hey
(23:26:42) Yomako01: hey there
(23:26:53) GutterNS: No worries, it is I that should apologise since our site is involved in thiss srt of activities
(23:27:00) GutterNS: sort
(23:27:56) Yomako01: That's okay
(23:28:23) GutterNS: But whoever is pulling this is not getting away with it
(23:28:40) GutterNS: apparentyl more than 60 persons have received threats
(23:28:44) GutterNS: according to Onar
(23:29:06) Yomako01: that is amazing, considering
(23:29:17) GutterNS: So its important that we gather as much material and evidence as we can and forward it to the authorities
(
23:29:39) Yomako01: I have a confession to make
(23:29:50) GutterNS: Onar already sent me the emails your account sent him when you were hacked.
(23:31:03) Yomako01: yup, those were real, I'd send you copies if I had them
(23:31:44) Yomako01: not to infect you, just to prove that
(23:32:10) GutterNS: I have them I'm re-forwaring you the emails so you can have them then, just don't click the link ofc.
(23:32:23) Yomako01: of course
(23:33:00) Yomako01: the account was hacked, but the MTGC email...
(23:34:15) Yomako01: I'm so sorry
(23:34:16) GutterNS: yeah don't feel bad about having deleted it, these things are kept by the ISP for a week or so
(23:34:28) GutterNS: its an honest mistake
(23:34:44) GutterNS: the authorities can just ask for them and then resume their investigations
(23:35:03) Yomako01: have you reported it?
(23:36:13) Yomako01: because there is something you
should know
(23:36:25) GutterNS: Well I though you were in the London area, so I was looking for whoever handled counterterrorism and/or internet crime in the london region, but then Onar alerted me that you are actually in Whales
(23:36:45) Yomako01: please stop the report
(23:36:46) GutterNS: so its best if its handled by someone close to you, maybe they want to ask you questions in person
(23:36:57) GutterNS: what do you mean?
(23:37:59) Yomako01: the MTGC email was not real, it was born from a miscommunication from me to onar
(23:38:10) GutterNS: what?
(23:38:23) GutterNS: a misunderstanding?
(23:38:29) Yomako01: yes
(23:38:58) GutterNS: wait wait wait, explain me this please, this is a very important situation
(23:39:11) Yomako01: please allow me to explain what happened over the last year
(23:39:15) GutterNS: 60 people have been receiveng threats man
(23:39:23) GutterNS: well ok go ahead
(23:
40:03) Yomako01: Onar has been pressuring me hard to join his forums for him
(23:40:24) Yomako01: Do articles, mod etc
(23:41:47) Yomako01: which, I have been trying to think of a way of stopping him, since it was becoming a major scorce of stress and anxiety
(23:42:44) GutterNS: carry on...
(23:43:32) Yomako01: Then this week I looked at MTGC for the first time and was horrified by some of the things I saw
(23:44:01) Yomako01: Sorry, I am very thin skinned
(23:44:23) GutterNS: np our site is not for all ages, so to say...
(23:45:13) Yomako01: And several of my friends were bought into it (Teia etc)
(23:45:36) Yomako01: And the things said shook me to the core
(23:46:24) Yomako01: I know people are entitled to their opinions
(23:46:40) Yomako01: but the impact was huge
(23:47:08) Yomako01: I then noticed Onar's username was there
(23:47:39) Yomako01: So I thought to tell him what I
found
(23:47:48) Yomako01: Sorry
(23:48:33) GutterNS: ok but what does this have to do with the threats towards MTGS members?
(23:48:59) GutterNS: they are somehow real right? because this is unnacceptable
(23:49:11) GutterNS: please tell me this isn't some sort of fabrication
(23:49:29) Yomako01: I know not of any threats
(23:49:54) Yomako01: I never once saw or made reference to threats
(23:49:57) GutterNS: Because I'm taking this very seriously. I have barely slept since yesterday, when I came back from my easter vacations and I was informed of all this by Onar
(23:50:49) Yomako01: I apologise, but I do not know where the threats are coming from
(23:51:08) Yomako01: I have not revived any threats
(23:51:20) Yomako01: *recieved
(23:51:30) GutterNS: :frowns:
(23:51:50) Yomako01: From the bottom of my heart, I am sorry
(23:52:00) GutterNS: you guys from MTGS never stop being a
disappointment for myself
(23:52:19) Yomako01: I know, I really do
(23:52:21) GutterNS: Do you realise how much this issue has bothered me since yesteerday?
(23:52:37) Yomako01: I do now
(23:52:49) GutterNS: Put yourself in my shoes
(23:53:18) Yomako01: I know, you came back from vacation to find what you found
(23:53:59) Yomako01: After no rest, I can understand entirely
(23:54:04) GutterNS: Imagine you wanted to make a site for you and your friends to hang out in peace, you leave for a few days on easster vacations, away from the internet, and you come back to learn that "apparently" your site is being used as a platform for tterrorist threats
(23:54:39) Yomako01: I know, Scumbag, I know
(23:55:34) GutterNS: You really should think for a minute about the consequences of your acts
(23:56:12) GutterNS: how hard was it to tell Onar that because of school or something you couldn't take up responsabilities on his
site?
(23:56:30) GutterNS: instead of... this...
(23:56:54) Yomako01: I know, I wanted to tell him, but I was scared
(23:57:18) Yomako01: remember this has been going on for some time
(23:57:53) Yomako01: (I suffer from Anxiety problems which I am medicated for)
(23:59:24) Yomako01: I couldn't bring myself to do so because I feared for both his wrath and feelings
(00:00:01) GutterNS: Yes, but your actions were hurtful of him too come to think of it
(00:00:32) Yomako01: I know, ironically, I wanted to help
(00:00:39) GutterNS: I think you owe him an apology too, he even resigned over the technicial position he fought so hard for at MTGC
(00:00:55) GutterNS: :sigh:
(00:01:13) Yomako01: I know, I will give it tommorrow.
(00:02:00) Yomako01: Scumbag, I am sorry for all the trouble I have caused
(00:02:15) GutterNS: I'm going to give you an advice: You need to reevaluate the way you handle with
the expectations of others
(00:02:42) Yomako01: I know, but Scumbag, how?
(00:02:48) GutterNS: You should not be afraid of simply telling NO to people
(00:03:10) Yomako01: That is what I need to do
(00:03:11) GutterNS: Mmost people are used to rejection
(00:03:24) GutterNS: And you cannot please everyone
(00:03:55) Yomako01: On more than one occasion, I cried over all the pressure
(00:05:12) Yomako01: *extends my hand*
(00:05:39) GutterNS: allright allright
(00:05:46) GutterNS: lets do this
(00:06:06) Yomako01: handshake?
(00:06:06) GutterNS: We all make mistakes
(00:06:33) GutterNS: sure, I'm willing to forgive you over all this anxiety I had over this
(00:06:53) GutterNS: but you really need to make amends man
(00:07:19) GutterNS: It's important that we take responsability for our acts
(00:07:24) GutterNS: do you agree?
(00:07:28) Yomako01: yes, I do.
(00:
07:38) Yomako01: Yes, I agree
(00:08:16) Yomako01: Tommorrow I will apologise to Onar
(00:08:57) Yomako01: And I will tell him that I cannot help him
(00:09:07) GutterNS: I think the good course of action is for you to issue a public apology to Onar, and to all those who were affected by this ordeal
(00:09:26) Yomako01: Yes
(00:09:34) GutterNS: and then you will resign over your staff position on magecraft
(00:09:51) Yomako01: That is absolutely fine
(00:09:59) GutterNS: you need to have some assertivity if you want to move forward with your future
(00:10:16) GutterNS: to avoid drama, its better you do it on magecraft instead of MTGC
(00:10:27) Yomako01: Yes
(00:10:34) GutterNS: since you don't feel at ease there (understandable)
(00:10:42) GutterNS: do you agree to this?
(00:10:50) Yomako01: yup, I agree
(00:11:04) GutterNS: It's not only for us and Onar, but also for you
n(00:11:39) GutterNS: you need to be in control of your life, not taking detours for avoiding doing things you don't want to do
(00:12:02) Yomako01: I need to put right the wrongs I have caused and prevent them from happening by being more assertive
(00:13:09) Yomako01: I am sorry for all the trouble I caused you
(00:13:30) GutterNS: Allright, as long as the lesson i learned, we are cool
(00:13:37) GutterNS: is learned
(00:14:26) Yomako01: yup, and one more thing, can you keep the IM contents privately?
(00:14:42) GutterNS: yes of course
(00:15:06) Yomako01: Thank you
(00:15:34) Yomako01: I apologise for all the I'll feeling MTGS has caused
(00:17:19) GutterNS: eh, I'm starting to get used to it unfortunately
(00:18:06) Yomako01: Sorry, If it is of any comfort, I do not represent them
(00:20:30) GutterNS: OK, let bygones be bygones
(00:20:46) GutterNS: I'm going to have to go
now
(00:20:56) GutterNS: Got to get up early tomorrow
(00:20:56) Yomako01: Scumbag, thank you for helping
(00:21:09) Yomako01: goodnight
(00:21:15) Yomako01: me too
(00:21:30) GutterNS: np, thanks for coming out clean. Be more assertive in the fure ok?
(00:22:04) Yomako01: I will, I promise
(00:23:24) GutterNS: see ya