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by Kraj
Thu May 19, 2016 1:41 am
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
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GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL

Yeah, yeah, yeah, laugh at my pain, why don't cha!! :p
Thank you, I will!
by Kraj
Wed May 18, 2016 11:00 pm
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL

There was also an ability or a plane that allowed someone to reanimate one of the dead players as a zombie. That player would be back in the game, but could ONLY post BRAAAAINS. Those in the game still (Scumbag, hamfactorial, Pedrobear, rcwraspy, and rezombad who was the Medium) chose to bring me back. As a Zombie. Who can ONLY vote/unvote and say UHH UNG and BRAINS.
:rofl: Now THAT'S funny!
by Kraj
Wed May 18, 2016 6:31 pm
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL

#damnright

But Manders, if you (rightly) hate PRs that much then why did you put it in? PRs can generate hilarity if you design it to be fun, but forcing less participation is not what this game needed :p
by Kraj
Tue May 17, 2016 11:35 pm
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL

From my notes: 92 - ham - irritatingly continues RP.
;)

I enjoyed at early on but thought it wore thin as the game progressed.
by Kraj
Tue May 17, 2016 11:21 pm
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL

I'd be interested to see the full setup, Manders. Balancing a game this small without mostly vanillas is a tough task.

Thank you for the compliments but I can't take too much credit. I'm happy with my play, but with both NightArcher and Rez lurking hardcore day 1 I got to come in without any baggage and skip day 1, which is where I'm weakest. More so, there were too many town players lurking or actively lurking, which gave me lots of easy targets to attack, and made it very hard for the active players to tell what I was up to.

In case anyone is curious, I NK'd ColonelK for several reasons. ColK came across as savvy and was less suspicious of Red than GR was, and I knew I wanted to attack Red. I also had GR's defense of NightArcher to work with if Red and Pedro were a bust. With Ham obvtown and the only claimed player, I expected him to be a magnet for protection, watcher, etc. I also had godfather protection, so I wanted the investigative committee to stick around and target me. I was actually disappointed when ColK flipped as a mason. I also thought that, if cornered, I could convince the town to let me live another day and that you'd trust Ham enough to pick between me and whoever else was alive, knowing that I could likely win with the daykill before getting lynched.

Red, I'm genuinely sorry if I upset you at all. This is why you don't give in to frustration; you were absolutely right there was scum on your wagon! I don't think the town was as set on lynching you as you thought. You could have made it very difficult for me to keep pushing you.

Pedro, I hope you had fun. Forum mafia is very different than in-person, and it's very difficult to play in a second language because the words you choose can be scrutinized so closely. If you enjoyed yourself at all, I encourage you to try again. If you like, I'd be happy to help as a mentor.

Some randoms from my notes:
I do not hate freedom. Let me remind you that of all the candidates on this stage right now, I am the only one who has been fighting for the common man. Look to my record, you can see for yourself. Big government and moneyed interests are destroying the American dream, and must be opposed. Donald Trump must be opposed. So what have you done lately? Nothing. Nothing for this party and nothing for this country. The only people you work for are your donors and your vested interests.
29 - stardust breadcrumbs Rand Paul
Politics is show-business for ugly people, so it's my time to shine!
:rofl: :love2: :rofl:
by Kraj
Sun May 15, 2016 11:38 pm
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore DEADLINE 5/23/16

I don't object to winning now. Already voting.
by Kraj
Sat May 14, 2016 12:36 am
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore DEADLINE 5/23/16

It was merely good old Rule 11.
Ah ok.
10 days? Really? Jeez, sorry guys. I've been trying to keep up while sitting on the John, but I haven't had a spare minute to actually give this game some thought. I will have time soon. I think. For sure before deadline.
Luckily you don't need to think about the game to claim. Should be quicker than pooping.
by Kraj
Fri May 13, 2016 7:43 pm
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore DEADLINE 5/23/16

GR, you said you might have a play to kill two birds with one stone, but are not sure. If you think you have a play better than a standard lynch, now would be a good time to talk it through.
by Kraj
Fri May 13, 2016 2:43 pm
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore DEADLINE 5/23/16

Stardust hasnt posted in 10 days without explanation, despite posting elsewhere. I've poked at GR and don't feel any worse about him.

Vote: Stardust
by Kraj
Fri May 13, 2016 3:35 am
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore DEADLINE 5/23/16

Because Pedro, my main suspect had 4 posts and was dead to rule 11 anyway, had you hammered. Your lack of action confirms my read on you as town. My play was having all townies in the wagon and both the scum and the neutral dead at the end of the day. I also had my ability as a Hail Mary had things gone awry.

I explained why I was concerned about the lynch of NA in an earlier post.
Indeed you did, and I don't take issue with it.
by Kraj
Thu May 12, 2016 2:37 pm
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore DEADLINE 5/23/16

I hope the move goes smoothly for you, Manders :)
Red brought up the point in our QT that he spent a long time at L-1 without Pedro or GR hammering him, even though he was the prime suspect for a lynch.

I discounted it at the time because I didn't have confirmation that Red was town. Now that I've seen his flip, I trust his previous reads far more.
I agree, mostly since behaviorally I don't see much evidence against GR except for what I pointed out. However, if GR and Pedro both genuinely believed Red was neutral like they said, then as scum either would have incentive not to hammer him. So I think not hammering is a null. To me, it's about whether GR's NA defense is compelling enough to lynch just on that.

GR: you preferred a Pedro lynch on day 1. You're now following Ham's lead on Stardust. Why not Pedro now?
by Kraj
Wed May 11, 2016 8:29 pm
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore DEADLINE 5/23/16

Mod: is the deadline still in effect? Will there still be postcount modkills if we lynch well before the deadline?

This is a lot to process. I wish Red had played very differently, but he did take away a mafia NK by preventing his lynch. My behavior read says Pedro is my next top suspect, but I was completely wrong on Red. I still see no reason to distrust Ham.

I haven't gotten a scum read on Stardust's content, but I agree his lurkiness and shoulder shrugging are scummy. I've got a few suspicious notes on him, like in 142 when he seemed to overreact to Ham genuinely calling him scum. On the other hand, he put NA to L-2 which was a key vote on his wagon. If Ham, GR, Red, and ColK (he had Stardust as scum on his TS list before D1 ended) all think he's scum I'm inclined to agree. Except...

I'm strongly concerned about GR. As with Stardust I've not found his content to be scummy. I've generally read him as town, and often agreed with him, like in post 111 when he points out all of Red's posts are trivial. However, he very vocally discouraged NA's lynch, which is the strongest individual piece of scum behavioral evidence we have.

When ColK puts NA at L-1, in the very next post GR moves his vote from Red to Pedro, the second most popular target at the time. Then in 161 he further argues against NAs lynch, and calls Ham out for wanting to lynch NA too quickly in 178.

The quick vote on Stardust further concerns me, but his "if we just lynch Stardust we win right now" comment makes me slam the brakes. This reads like dangling a carrot in front of us, and I've seen skilled scum players use subtle manipulations like this.

Obviously GR will disagree with me and Stardust will agree, while Pedro will probably continue to be confused. So before I make a decision, Ham: what do you think about my points re GR?
by Kraj
Wed May 11, 2016 2:42 am
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore DEADLINE 5/23/16

I could accept that you're a 'bad townie player', and I could even maybe buy that every time you've been caught lying you really were just making mistakes. But I can't get over that you're not even trying. You post plenty but without taking stances. You've made no cases. You've voted 3 times total; the first was unexplained and could have just been a rando; the second one was against me for making a case against you; and the last was explicitly just because Ham voted. After you started the day by attacking Ham for likely being a traitor in the masons. And then when a quick wagon forms on you, you get belligerent and then vanish, claiming you don't care anymore. The only point in your favor I can see is that you have demonstrated an ability, which is something over unclaimed players, but there's nothing inherently town about it, and you also happened to gain the ability of the player the mafia killed.

So, Ham and GR, why is Pedro or Stardust a better lynch today than Red?
by Kraj
Fri May 06, 2016 2:21 pm
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore

The "you think I'm scum because I can't English" has me very convinced of his scumminess. He never addressed my points against him either
I'll agree it's scummy that his participation level has been consistently low and he keeps offering excuses instead of content. That said,
Just to clarify a bit more, Pedro's behavior during NA's lynch was odd to me at the moment, and in light of the flip it was more so.
Please explain how his behavior was odd, and why NA turning up scum made it worse.

I also don't get these "such and such is scummy but he's more likely to be neutral" statements. We know there are mafia in the game, we don't know there's a neutral, we're only assuming based on very little information. If someone seems non-town, then they are probably mafia.
by Kraj
Thu May 05, 2016 1:58 am
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore

Hah, except I'm not. Red is scum. I went into some detail why I thought this,
Could you please point out where you explain why Red is scum?
ham is 100% town.
Actually he's so town that I'm just going to blindly vote what he's going to vote.
I'm not going to answer any more question today, sorry
:rolleyes2:
The next day, however, he calmed down and discussed some behavioral things with me in QT, and replied to Kraj without histrionics. I've been in his position before, bring lynched as a townie, and his behavior reminds me of me.
As a townie, do you also avoid posting your own opinions, insult players and their cases instead of responding to them, repeatedly lie, and pledge to just barn other players instead of contributing? I really don't get this turnaround, but I'm thinking it through, so lemme ask you this: should I take your opinion of Red completely at face value, or should I be reading between the lines?
OK. Since ham is confirmed, the other remaining townies have four people to look at. And there's likely a scum and a neutral in there. Right?

The way I see it, Red is more likely either town or neutral than scum (I could be wrong) but given the odds I think the scum is likely among the other 3. In a scale from town to scum:

Ham
Kraj
Red
Dust
Pedro

My vote is already where I feel it should be.
If you feel that Red is either town or neutral, and therefore the scum is among Pedro, Stardust, and me, why do you rank me as townie just below Ham?

Also, please explain your reasons for voting Pedro.
by Kraj
Tue May 03, 2016 4:54 am
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore

About N_A flipping scum, english is not even my first language, but "If I was scum and NA was my teammate [...] he'd flip scum" should be called "conditional sentence" and I don't think that's something we invented in Italy.
OK, that makes sense. I think I misread.
You're right about that targeting thing, I replied without thinking because I was angry for ham's question.
You don't get to just revise what you say when you're caught in a lie.

Another question for you. What did you see in the mason chat that made you suspicious of Ham?
by Kraj
Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:11 am
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore

I never claimed I didn't target anyone but I'm not surprising in Kraj lying,
I'd also vote Red, and I'm curious if anyone here has anything interesting to report about him and anybody that he may have targeted last night.
I didn't target anybody, you racist.
Did you submit the choice to Manders during N1?
Yup
Despite the fact that you did, in fact, target someone, you're not lying, but I am? :?


OK, so seeing as how I find nothing about you townie, maybe I am tunneling. So I'm working on a PBPA and maybe I'll change my mind. In the mean time, question for you:
If I was scum and NA was my teammate the last thing I'd want would be to have everyone's focus on me, as we both know he's doomed one way or the other AND he'd flip scum; you can refuge into WIFOM, but your whole argument is far-fetched.
Indeed NightArcher was doomed no matter what. But why did you know NightArcher would flip scum? We know why Ham knew, but why did you know?
by Kraj
Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:27 am
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore

Well I already thought Red was scum based on behavior, so it should be no surprise I think this just makes him look worse. Getting Col K's ability the same time he turns up dead, claiming not to have targeted anyone when he did, then explaining why he targeted Col K and later revising it to targeting imopen is pretty definitive. That's much scummier than the particulars of his role claim, but the ability doesn't sound at all like a town-only ability. A mafia who gains the abilities of who they kill would be a power level I'd expect against three confirmed masons.
The role strikes me as an independent role, especially since he can use his ability during the Day and again at Night.
An independent is certainly possible, and more likely than a third mafia. But isn't Red being the second mafia more likely?
I think at this point an independant is basically guaranteed.
Why? Maybe I'm missing something.
by Kraj
Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:59 pm
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore

I also find funny the fact that you consider a "detailed case against me" a 3 lines paragraph where you basically said "he posts a lot, but I don't like his posts, so he must be scum" - I'm sure that's considered top-quality content in your country.
I'm glad you're amused but this is a blatant strawman dismissal. There's a big difference between "I don't like his posts" and "His posts lack content, stances on other players, votes, or anything that looks like a townie scumhunting". Active lurking is scum behavior; you don't get to just pretend it's not. I also referenced specific posts and behaviors. So I'm curious what level of detail you would find acceptable.

Since we're having a laugh, I find it funny that belittle my case but then act on my argument by finally posting opinions. And that list of opinions literally calls everyone scummy except GR, whom you merely imply you think is town.
You see my concern. 3 neighbours with 1 as scum is the classic three-person neighbourhood. ham claims they were masons, and imopen certainly acted as though they were, so I'm not sure.
I see what you mean, but if imopen was directly told ColK and ham had the same role PM as him, that's bastard mod territory. Based on the information we have thus far, ham is as confirmed town as anyone ever is in mafia. That doesn't mean there's no possible way he's scum, but it does mean it makes absolutely no sense to suspect him more than any other player.
Top quality content, see above.
Are you suspecting ham or are you considering him Town?
Again, insulting my play isn't going to get you anywhere. I also have a problem with repeating myself for people who don't bother to read my posts for themselves, especially when I think they're scum. My T/S very clearly states Ham is confirmed town. Above clealry states he's confirmed. Stardust is the one suggesting otherwise. He's not wrong to critically examine the setup, but that's looking in the wrong place. It's like you're searching for something and you keep looking in the same place because there's a chance it might still be there somewhere instead of looking other places where it could be.
by Kraj
Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:42 am
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore

You see my concern. 3 neighbours with 1 as scum is the classic three-person neighbourhood. ham claims they were masons, and imopen certainly acted as though they were, so I'm not sure.
I see what you mean, but if imopen was directly told ColK and ham had the same role PM as him, that's bastard mod territory. Based on the information we have thus far, ham is as confirmed town as anyone ever is in mafia. That doesn't mean there's no possible way he's scum, but it does mean it makes absolutely no sense to suspect him more than any other player.
Meanwhile I'm waiting for somebody to explain me how I got to L-2 without any reason, if you don't mind.
Unless I missed something you've never had more than one vote on you. But given that I made a detailed case against you that two other people agree with, I think you should be explaining why you shouldn't be lynched. Or at the very least, you could pop the cherry and actually post an opinion on someone's alignment. If you don't mind.
by Kraj
Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:24 am
Forum: Fowl Play (Mafia)
Topic: GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - GAME OVER - PATAKI TAKES ALL
Replies: 438
Views: 210960

GOP Candidates Mafia 2016 - Day 2 - Gimme Some Gilmore

Hey folks, I'll just jump right in with my T/S list based on my read of day 1.

hamfactorial - Confirmed town. Nuff said.

Kraj (rezombad) - Smart, sexy, cuddly stoner. Town.

Stardust - Town. Early posts read like a townie trying to start discussion. Added critical second vote on NightArcher.

( G_R ) - Leaning town. His defense of NightArcher at the end of the day is reaaaaally suspicious. However, that's the only point against him and he's actually been posting. I've played game after game where scum just hardcore lurked and skated by while townies who actually try to play the game lynch each other.

Pedrobear - Scum
He claims to be new, and I believe it. His first few posts are just banter. His first actual content is #67 in which he immediately casts doubt on ham & imopen's claim. But he just says "somethings up" and leaves it to someone else to fill in the blank. It reads very much like newbie scum who doesn't know how to react. When stardust explains he's voting pedro for lurking, he plays the newbie card. Then takes his first stance that GR and NA are scum, for lurking. Then says people tend to think he's scum, for lurking. When prompted to post a T/S list, he says he reread but has no opinion. It gets better when he notices imopen's comment about a third mason and asks who it is, then doesn't want to hammer NA because he thinks it'll make him look bad. So, he's actively lurked, doesn't have any opinions, and doesn't want to hammer scum because he's concerned about how the town sees him. His next post, which is the most content he's provided thus far, is wanting to make a plan going into night, which is almost always a bad idea for the town.

RedNihilist - Scum
He has been actively lurking all game. He has 29 posts, but his entire content is an unexplained vote on Pedro in #41, getting upset in #192 that Ham fingered him as NA's potential teammate, and then hammering NA. Every other post is either cute remarks, or prompting other people to post content. He does post any reads of his own, actively pursue anyone, support anyone else's line of inquiry. And then hammers when it's a foregone conclusion.

I'd happily vote for either player. The possibility that Pedro could just be making newbie mistakes instead of newbie scum mistakes makes me prefer red.

Vote: RedNihilst

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