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by Cursed_Pride
Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:04 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
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Sent.
by Cursed_Pride
Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:03 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Rescind Vote (Unvote)
Vote Player Slowpoke



I think this day has passed.
by Cursed_Pride
Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:49 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
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Though Col. Khaddafi may have proven he is town because he still thinks Kazekirimaru is in this game, while I would expect scum to have nightkilled him and for him to remember that fact from the QuickTopic he was given.

Between imopen2's and Slowpoke's scum flips (eventual) I still think this game is on autopilot.
by Cursed_Pride
Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:47 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

@Tube: Looked like Cursed was voting Scumbag to get him to post. Maybe that's just my take on it, though. :shrug:

@Cursed: No, I'm not saying that the town doesn't have an information role. :eyebrow: I'm saying that they just haven't claimed.

Actually, putting some thought into it, that makes me want to lynch Slowpoke more. I actually haven't been trying to figure out the setup because it's probably relatively low-power (as well as because of my own role), minus a few particular roles. I'm pretty sure Slowpoke is scum because I'm the Cop. Let's give it a whirl and
hopefully I didn't just put my foot in my mouth.
Yeah, I was expecting an information role to counterclaim him since it's Day 2, and they should have gotten a check off the night before.

I'll keep Slowpoke at L-2, so he doesn't self vote himself and deprive us of discussion.
The timeline:

Wheat_grinder claims(?) he is Manders
Everyone jumps on Iso bringing talk of massclaim early in the game
CM/Me says "the fuck?" and claims a good look at the vote chain is in order
CM/Me junmps on Kaze and Kaze typical defensiveness grants him a vote chain
Kaze does a omgus on CM/Me
lol at Checkbox mismatch posting.
post #87, page 3 on 40ppp we get a good recap from wheat_Grinder viewtopic.php?p=131618#
p131618
good scumhunting would read again.
Cursed_Pride mentions Kaze is at L-2, no one had noticed... :sweat:
Wheat grinder doesn't thnk Kaze is scum...
Cursed_Pride mentions Kaze is just defensive instead of explaining his wagon-hoopin, Kaze acknowledges that. Well, classic Kaze I guess
Void steps in and says he is not moving his vete on CM/Me, obv scum.
Stardust says nameclaim should be safe because he believes names are not relevant to alignements
then changes opinion
CM/Me: Why?
Stardust: Because risks outweighs benefits
At some point Stardust voted slowpoke but he reserves reasoning for later
At this point everyone seems to be unvoting Kaze because its his typical playstyle?
Something something, everyone is lashing back and forth with Kaze
Stardust ragepauses the game
Void reinstates his vote on CM/Me because jumping on Kaze was oportunistic, it is evident Kaze has no clear benefit
on doing what he did if he was scum
Slowpoke gets hot on CM/Me and imopen2 ass for lashing at Kaze
rez now takes a turn at explaining why kaze is anti-town
Iso says he likes cursed_pride, voi is town, imopen2 and slowpoke are scum for bandwagoning, claims busing contest between slowpoke and imopen2
CM/Me: -yeah, imopen2 is an issue, but slowpoke is doing scumhunting
Kaze votes iso, void says boo, kaze unvotes
Void: Iso is null
wheat_grinder makes one of his short recaps which are a blessing amidst the walls of text I'm dredging (post #203)
post #207 from Kaze si quality scumhunting, well done! viewtopic.php?p=133481#p133481
Tubehunter replaces Suga: "CM,Slowpoke, and IMopen are top canidates for scum right now, with a glance back at rezmo."
something something back and forth tubehunter/kaze
cursed_pride T/S list, first of the game: viewtopic.php?p=133927#p133927

oh god I'm dying, that's the end of page 6 out of 18, I typed something along the lines of this a few times and lost it, I'll just split it for now to give some content.
Thank you for providing a summary of the game.

I'm still waiting for actual content.
by Cursed_Pride
Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:42 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

rezombad, I will repeat it:

What do you think of the Col. Khaddafi player slot?
by Cursed_Pride
Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:50 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Another day without Scumbag and Wheatums.
/yawn

Rezombad: are you trying to breadcrumb really hard or do you just like to make this thread NSFW?
What could I possibly be breadcrumbing?

I will put any further bouncebreaks in spoiler tags so your boss doesn't fire you for browsing magical card forums at work.
Answer my question.
Still catching up on Day 1, God I'm dying, did you guys take this
long to wrap it up? :gonk:

expect my T/S list in an hour or so.
It's been five days since this man has posted. Replacement time, perhaps?
Here's some pressure to comply you to post.

Rescind Vote (Unvote)
Vote Player Col. Khaddafi
Why bother trying to find scum when you can just vote for people who don't post lists?
It's more than what anyone
else has done in the last 3 days.

Why is Tube not swinging?
What do you think about my proclamation:

"I think TubeHunter is town because the mafia usually have two "goons" and one "support" role, with the "support" role being a roleblocker or role cop. With imopen2 having died, I would think the mafia use their support role action and the kill action."
I come from a meta where it's insanely common for scum to falseclaim power roles and skate by on those claims - I'm a master of them, myself. That said, you answered your own question earlier in this post - I think the scum has a Stalker instead of a Rolecop.
So you're saying that the town has no investigative role while the scum have a stalker?
by Cursed_Pride
Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:25 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Here's some pressure to comply you to post.

Rescind Vote (Unvote)
Vote Player Col. Khaddafi
by Cursed_Pride
Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:27 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Okay.

What do you think about Captain_Murphy?
by Cursed_Pride
Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:59 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

why did you put a dead person on your list?
Also sounds very noncommittal.
Also I really love this quote:
"But it is! Scum like to do a late hop on their scumbuddy's wagon, seeing the lynch as inevitable."
So, there has to be a lynch every day in order to end the game and progress the game. Tell me if any of these are wrong:
Scum will vote early on a scumbuddy's wagon in order to get towncred.
Scum stay off a scumbuddy's wagon not wanting to lynch a scumbuddy.
Scum will stay off a wagon so they don't lose towncred for a mislynch.

So CP..
obviously scum know that people are looking for scum to come on the wagon at certain positions, so they'll want to avoid those positions. In order to get a lynch, someone has to have voted fifth and if
scum don't vote fifth then the person that voted fifth is town. Obviously scum know this so they will naturally want to vote into the fifth position because they know only town vote fifth because that is a scummy vote. But town knows that scum want to appear as towny as possible so they will assume the person that's fifth is scum. Knowing this, the scum would never vote in the fifth position and naturally the fifth person on the wagon would be town. But if the person in the fifth position is always town than the scum will want to vote there because no scum would ever vote there.
If you think I'm noncommittal, vote me.

Also, don't sell a WIFOMproduct to me. :D
by Cursed_Pride
Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:07 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Captain_Murphy:

I see mostly just tunneling on Kazekirimaru and after the pressure on him dissipates he "settles" for an imopen2 lynch. I still don't like Captain_Murphy's last post, for reasons I stated earlier in Day 1.
@Captain Murphy:

- Your vociferous opinions against the nameclaim make me wary, still. You say that it's a waste of time because scum will just claim some name and hope it passes, but an experienced player such as yourself should know that there is a chance that scum could claim a name a townie
has and get tripped up that way. You argument that "a game this flavored would have safeclaims" is invalid. Especially when the risk for town is so low and the risk for scum is so great.
- At 142 you state "rvs was over at that point." You're saying RVS ends at the same time for everyone? Why do you think that's the case?
It was a waste of time that early in the game, I only ever like mass claims and gaming the mod from a few hundred proper posts. On top of that, creating flavor that can break a game open is generally bad and its a high possibility that they have falseclaims.

Its called random voting stage, once you get to the point that there is a non random vote, the stage is over.

@Cursed my question is probably too vague, but I was asking who 3 people you thought were scum. I have been reading your posts! That T/S list basically answers my question though.

Iso, cursed, wheat and tube are town. Kaze has started looking more town to
me, mainly because he isn't posting so many love hearts anymore and actually providing posts with good info.

Slowpoke isn't scum, I think its just checkbox fucking up and being a mafia noob

imopen is our day one lynch, his responses are overreactions, deflections and just nonsense. I'm happy to vote him but I need a vote count please

This game is gonna be slow.
The bolded also might be relevant now that imopen2 has flipped scum.

Col. Khaddafi has not provided much in the way of content so far, but now I'll settle with a Leaning Scum until Khaddafi posts. :)

I'm reading imopen2's posts and not getting much from them, which is worrying for my reading comprehension. I just skim his posts and they don't do much for me. I might do an interaction chart later.

Here's something.

I threw void and tubehunter in there so you guys could analyze people's reactions after I was dead. unfortunately, only about 5 people seem to care about this game. at least we know stardust is town :thumbsup:

actual list looks more like:

iso, stardust, rezombad - town

tubehunter, slowpoke - scum

kaze - still leaning scum but I think he is just town that can't stop tunneling me in every game we've been in together (he probably feels the same way about me re: tunneling since I think I have attempted to case him in all of my games)

void needs to post more

wheat seems like he hasn't put much thought into this game

captain needs to post more. hopefully he is alive

the rest: null
I think imopen2 put a buddy in his town list. So we'll see what holds
of rezombad's alignment.

I still think Iso is town for his strong stance against imopen2.

I read RedNihilist's posts and I don't see anything that detracts from my old read on him.

Also rezombad I found my second scum suspect and that person is Col. Khaddafi. Still not unvoting you, though.

TOWN
Cursed_Pride

LEANING TOWN
Slowpoke - claimed investigative role
RedNihilist - Haven't found anything scummy from him
TubeHunter - tracked, no result
Iso - Strong stance against imopen2

NEUTRAL
Wheat_Grinder - I haven't had a read on him.
Void - same

LEANING SCUM
Captain_Murphy - I do not like his last post
Rezombad - reasoning stated

SCUM
imopen2
by Cursed_Pride
Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:35 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Oh, I can display posts by author.

This will be helpful.
by Cursed_Pride
Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:33 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

I think I like my vote here.

Vote Player: rezombad

My reasoning:

1. Wheat_Grinder's self-aware thing that he says is scummy.
2. He says to take note of my switching from imopen to Tubehunter while doing so himself.
3. "I'll hammer imopen. Just lynch tubehunter tomorrow." - This reads like chaining lynches. Also, he votes Slowpoke and Void in his opening posts, while ignoring TubeHunter.
4. imopen2 (6): Slowpoke, Iso, Wheatums,rednihilist, Rezombad, Kaze (L-1). He was the fifth vote on imopen2, and I think rednihilist is town. Kazekirimaru flipped town.
5.
Iso (4): rezombad, Stardust, Slowpoke, Kazekirimaru. I think that one scum is in this wagon. Stardust, Slowpoke, and Kazekirimaru are town (probably for Slowpoke's part) and rezombad is the last guy there.
I have some time to actually address this now before I go get food. So I'll go point-by-point, hopefully this clears things up.

1. Someone else saying I'm scum, doesn't make me scum.
2. I explained why I jumped to tubehunter. Your quick jump made me think you could be scum not wanting to lynch scum so you quickly moved off when the chance presented itself.
3. I was under the impression that I was going to be blown up. Having not been blown up I think tube is just a bitch and not necessarily scum.
4. Me being fifth on the wagon is not a tell and you know it.
5. It's a little early to POE.

I appreciate the effort, who is your next scummiest person? I'm going to do a read on Void after I grab a bite to eat.
1. I respect Wheat_Grinder and the case he put
on you yesterday.
2. Yeah; while I'm relieved that imopen2 flipped mafia, I thought that I would be pressured the next Day for having defended him and the classic scumbuddy excuse "While I think X and Y are scum, I'm going to lynch Y, the townie, rather than X, my buddy".
3. Can you show me the posts that give you a better view of TubeHunter?
4. But it is! Scum like to do a late hop on their scumbuddy's wagon, seeing the lynch as inevitable.
5. It's never too early to POE.

What are everyone's views on rezombad? I don't remember him doing anything townie.

I'm not sure on my next most scummiest person. (Admittedly, I have also not had much time to play Mafia. Hopefully that can change)

I think TubeHunter is town because the mafia usually have two "goons" and one "support" role, with the "support" role being a roleblocker or role cop. With imopen2 having died, I would think the mafia use their support role action and the kill action.
Can scum have a watcher/tracker combo? (is a watcher/tracker combo even a thing?)
yes

I mean it's pretty obvious that Slowpoke and TubeHunter are the remaining scum so I'm down for either lynch toDay.
What makes you think that Slowpoke is scum when he claimed an investigative power role, with no counterclaim?
I am the ultimate authority on Void's metagame and playstyle. He is town.
Why?

(I wish there was a function to bring up everyone's posts, so I can play Mafia better when I find
the time for it)

Any news from W_G?
I would like him to return. He made posts yesterday that resonated with me.

Let's see if I can do things right now, while I have some free time.
by Cursed_Pride
Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:08 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

I think I like my vote here.

Vote Player: rezombad

My reasoning:

1. Wheat_Grinder's self-aware thing that he says is scummy.
2. He says to take note of my switching from imopen to Tubehunter while doing so himself.
3. "I'll hammer imopen. Just lynch tubehunter tomorrow." - This reads like chaining lynches. Also, he votes Slowpoke and Void in his opening posts, while ignoring TubeHunter.
4. imopen2 (6): Slowpoke, Iso, Wheatums,rednihilist, Rezombad, Kaze (L-1). He was the fifth vote on imopen2, and I think rednihilist is town. Kazekirimaru flipped town.
5. Iso (4): rezombad, Stardust, Slowpoke, Kazekirimaru. I think that one scum is in this wagon. Stardust, Slowpoke, and Kazekirimaru are town (probably for Slowpoke's part) and rezombad is the last guy there.
by Cursed_Pride
Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:03 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Unless we have an investigative power role of some sort, I believe that Slowpoke is town.

Someone would just counterclaim him if he was scum.
by Cursed_Pride
Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:02 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

I'm surprised I'm not getting hell for my poor interactions with imopen2.

Rereading things through, be back in a bit.
by Cursed_Pride
Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:22 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Rescind Vote (Unvote)
Vote Player TubeHunter
by Cursed_Pride
Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:26 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Is there a chance Captain_Murphy can respond to my question before the day is over?

I can put imopen2 at L-1 if needed.
by Cursed_Pride
Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:05 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

So we have a Watcher/Tracker role claim.

If the real investigative type role would like to counterclaim, here's your chance. Otherwise, Slowpoke is cleared and we should go after TubeHunter or imopen.
by Cursed_Pride
Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:24 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064


Can you remind me why you're so sure Slowpoke is scum?
Slowpoke (Badly defended himself, same caution tell, bad hop on Iso/Kaze wagon)

Why would you ask this if your vote is already on Slowpoke? It feels like someone asking this would be voting on another wagon.

I'm also wondering where Captain_Murphy is. Did he get sick with Yannaria?

Slowpoke, can you please answer my question on my previous post?

imopen2, I think you're scummy but I would much rather lynch Slowpoke and evaluate you from there. Slowpoke's a stronger read for me.
Will work 4 flip
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Agreed. (would rather prefer a Slowpoke flip, but this day has been dragging on and on)
by Cursed_Pride
Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:19 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

I like Stardust at this point, as he gives extremely detailed responses and looks like scumhunting and trying to get reads on most of the playerbase.
Mm. No. Don't go down this route. Stardust is great at being detailed as both alignments.
It feels like he's genuinely trying, though I'll take a closer look at the Newbie Mafia for meta.

The only thing I don't like about him is that he's trying to start a new wagon on rezombad, even though he's fine with the Slowpoke wagon.
by Cursed_Pride
Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:51 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

I hate hate hate this post.
Why?
278 posts in and you have no strong reads? :ugh:
What do you want me to say?
I'm slow :sweat:
I like this post. I feel like scum have a need to comply to requests, and would probably half-ass a reads list. RedNihilist saying this feels honest and makes him even more town in my view.
@Everyone but Stardust and rezombad: Does the aforementioned exchange sound like Town v. Town, Town v. Scum, or Scumbussing and why?
I will have to look at rezombad closer to give a good answer to this. My impression of him is that he posted quite a bit in the early game, vanished, then suddenly comes back with a OMGUS attack on Stardust. I also have a hard time reading many of rezombad's posts.

I think that OMGUS is a weak towntell, though. Scum tend to be more careful with their accusations.

I like Stardust at this point, as he gives extremely detailed responses and looks like scumhunting and trying to get reads on most of the playerbase.

I still want to lynch Slowpoke today though.
by Cursed_Pride
Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:02 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Posting to avoid prod.

Will post with content tomorrow.
by Cursed_Pride
Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:46 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

I don't think the dialogue between Slowpoke and imopen2 supports both of them being scum.
.
I agree with this

The question is, who is the scum?

Guess we'll find out ^_^

Vote: Imopen
The beginning part of this part rubs me the wrong way. I know there's a term for it, but it escapes my mind. :ugh:
Alright, I've been on a big bender, I'll make a catch up post today!
@Captain Murphy:

- Your vociferous opinions against the nameclaim make me wary, still. You say that it's a waste of time because scum will just claim some name and hope it passes, but an experienced player such as yourself should know that there is a chance that scum could claim a name a townie has and get tripped up that way. You argument that "a game this flavored would have safeclaims" is invalid. Especially when the risk for
town is so low and the risk for scum is so great.
- At 142 you state "rvs was over at that point." You're saying RVS ends at the same time for everyone? Why do you think that's the case?
It was a waste of time that early in the game, I only ever like mass claims and gaming the mod from a few hundred proper posts. On top of that, creating flavor that can break a game open is generally bad and its a high possibility that they have falseclaims.

Its called random voting stage, once you get to the point that there is a non random vote, the stage is over.

@Cursed my question is probably too vague, but I was asking who 3 people you thought were scum. I have been reading your posts! That T/S list basically answers my question though.

Iso, cursed, wheat and tube are town. Kaze has started looking more town to me, mainly because he isn't posting so many love hearts anymore and actually providing posts with good info.

[b:
17390a0z]Slowpoke isn't scum, I think its just checkbox fucking up and being a mafia noob[/b]

imopen is our day one lynch, his responses are overreactions, deflections and just nonsense. I'm happy to vote him but I need a vote count please

This game is gonna be slow.
I dislike this post. :smiledown:

First off, sorry if I came off as a bit dickish in my "not reading the posts" part - I wanted to feel a bit cocky and made some bad assumptions.

But okay, glad I answered your question.

I want to question you on your bolded parts - what's your reasoning at why Iso, Wheat, TubeHunter, and I are town?

And what posts give you the impression that Slowpoke is "being a mafia noob"?

I don't like the "vote count please" from a mindset standpoint - the "I'm going to catch up today!" feels
exuberant and "fast", while the "I need a vote count" feels a bit "slow", from a mindset perspective.

...Don't know if that makes sense or not, but that's what set me off - it feels like you're coming in running then suddenly stopping.
I'm liking TubeHunter as Scum after his jump.

"Someone said one could be Town with other being Scum. Let's lynch one and see what they flip" is not a Town mentality. If TubeHunter flips Scum, then I wouldn't be surprised if both Slowpoke and imopen2 are Town.

unvote
Vote: TubeHunter

I'm still willing vote for Murphy as well.
I agree with this post. :thumbsup:

Stardust:[/b:
17390a0z] Thanks for your detailed analysis of Slowpoke's RVS posts. It makes sense to me and is extremely thorough. :toot:

I want to lynch Slowpoke today - his flip will give more insight into Captain Murphy's alignment and with Stardust's analysis he's the scummiest in my books by far. This post by imopen2 makes me a bit more cautious about him:


Can you point out some of my overreactions?

It's really amazing to me how so many people think I'm scum when I don't think I did anything scummy. Goes to show how much I still suck at this game I guess
by Cursed_Pride
Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:50 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

I'd love to hear some substantial reasoning for the townreads on RedNihilist.
I share many of the game's sentiments with him, though I wish he would do something - he's been a blip on my radar so far, and that's not good. :thumbsdown:
by Cursed_Pride
Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:13 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Okay, so a reads list.

TOWN
Cursed_Pride (that's me!)
Iso (I agree with him on many points, plus he seems pro town for now)
RedNihilist (I also agree with him)

LEANING TOWN
Kazekirimaru (First wagon out of the gates is usually on town, plus I like the way he's defended himself.)

NEUTRAL
Captain Murphy (Ditto on not remembering, though I want him to answer my question)
Wheat_Grinder (He makes me feel uneasy)
Void (Attacks Captain Murphy, then what?)
Stardust (Would like to see Wheat_Grinder's reasons as to why he's town)
Rezombad (I don't remember him at all besides him being suspicious because he hopped on both wagons)

LEANING SCUM
Tubehunter (No vote while calling others scum can indicate caution)
imopen2 (Summarizing without analysis
and a host of other bad things)

SCUM (OR MAFIA)
Slowpoke (Badly defended himself, same caution tell, bad hop on Iso/Kaze wagon)

I think I would support a Slowpoke wagon today, but I'll happily move my vote either to Tubehunter or imopen2 if their wagons get bigger.
by Cursed_Pride
Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:02 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Cursed Pride. I'd rather keep my reasoning for Slowpoke to myself for the moment. Remind me later and I'll give it.
Can you give it to me now? :)
Can you give me an example as to why self awareness is scummy?
Example? No. Playbook? Yes. It shows that you care about your image, rather than finding scum. Mafia are not overly concerned with finding scum, but they ARE concerned about being lynched; and thus get scared when people vote
them.
Thanks. :D
Also, how can you determine my alignment from two or three posts?
I'm very clever.
Indulge me in this cleverness, if you will.

Void I hate you but I get the feeling you are scum so I don't actually hate you.

Stardust is bumped up to null.

I'm busy remind me to say why Slowpoke is town later.[/quote]

Here's your reminder. :hi:
@CursedPride: You are calling out rezombad and myself for RVS votes. Suga got lynched in Kaze's newbie mafia for this.

I voted Iso because reasons, I just didn't feel like sharing those reasons. [/quote:
f8tuap84]

About the Kaze's Newbie Mafia thing: So? Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much.

And voting someone while slowrolling on the reasoning is a great way for you to fabricate/make up a reason later. I don't buy it.

kaze starts off with a vote on iso (a wagon that rezombad incited after my rvs vote because, "scumslip"), and suggests we nameclaim (this is fine with me, like I said I have no problem with a name claim)
So, you're just summarizing Kazekirimaru's posts and trying to pass it off as content, huh? ;-)
imopen2 and CM are
looking very scummy focusing on some very clear RVS votes
Where's your vote then? You're making my vote looking more and more compelling.
Murphy is Scum for opportunistic jump onto Kaze. What Kaze did does not make sense from a Scum perspective. The risk vs reward for Scum is not favorable for them. If Kaze is Scum, then he is one of the braver Mafia players I have seen.

Murphy, your game has gotten weak.

I will post later today should I find the time too do so.
What is opportunisism, and why is it scummy? (I'll need a Playbook like Wheat_Grinder did it)
I just want to say that while I don't really feel scum-vibes from Kaze, I can't
label him as town either.
It's just that I can understand his state of mind after following other posts from him in Bioshock (same goes for Stardust's hiatus), but being able to understand one's frustration and reading his alignment are two different things.

Kaze: keep your shit together and try to come up with some kind of read of the situation rather than being so condescending.

With that said, I want to hear what Void wants to tell us.
I agree with this guy on so many levels.
Okay, fair enough, I misread something.

CM hasn't really been pinging me. I think his push on you was dumb but not indicative of alignment in how he went about it.

I want imopen and Slowpoke to die.
I agree with you too!
imopen is a problem, the tunneling is what worries me. Slowpoke is actually hunting to an extent

@Cursed, who do you think is scum?
Ask this question again after you've read my posts. :smileup:

Why did you ask this question, even, if I assume you've been reading the game.
@Cursed_Pride:

- I didn't propose nameclaiming for reactions.
Even so, I'm opposed to it.
Ill have something more when I get onto a real computer, but for now:


CM,Slowpoke, and IMopen are top canidates for scum right now, with a glance back at rezmo.
Where's your vote, then? :fixed:
by Cursed_Pride
Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:43 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Posting to avoid prod.

Will post with content tomorrow.
by Cursed_Pride
Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:53 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Random thought here, but from reading Kazekirimaru's posts it feels like he's not really trying to analyze the reactions to the RVS wagon at all, just more like.. caring about defending himself. He belittles Captain Murphy for voting him and does some more defense stuff. He then complains about differentiating metas, and still no analyzing his votes on the wagon or analyzing the reactions to his vote on Iso.
This is a fair assessment. I switched gears from RVS wagons & such to my own wagon because of how hard and blatantly Captain and Rezombad were pushing it.[/quote:
ug51vqc3]

Why don't you analyze your wagon and say why it's bad?
@kaze, stardust and slowpoke: why did you blindly vote iso without knowledge of how it was a slip?
I didn't care about that scumslip nonsense. I just hopped on the wagon because it was there.
Vote kaze[/quote:
ug51vqc3]

Vote: Captain Murphy

Vote is not moving. We have our first Scum here.

I will post again later today, hopefully, if not, then tomorrow for sure. I have a major security event taking place today starting at 10:30am going until the later evening hours.
:confused:

Why are you voting without reasoning?

Why did you vote for Captain Murphy?
Vote Slowpoke.

I didn't want to lynch Iso at that time, but my vote was serious.

This isn't flavour gaming. If all three of the scum are Checkbox (or some variant thereof), they need to fake claim a name. If they fake claim a name that a townie has, they're caught. Murphy's right that there's a decent chance
they were given fake claims, and Iso's right too that there's a chance our PR's might be slightly easier to find following a name claim. I personally think the potential benefits outweigh the risks - I don't think our roles have much to do with flavour.


W_G! Point me to the post that made you think Slowpoke was town? Though I agree with you on Kaze, I think you're being too quick to judge alignment in general here. Got my eye on you.
:smiledown:

Same with you - I agree with the vote on Slowpoke, but why are you voting for him?

And I feel like you're basing the flavor claiming too much on hypotheticals for it to be effective.

Also,
I'm down.

Unvote, Vote Iso.[/
b]


How in the world is this vote serious? Did you see something scummy about Iso in his two posts?

And was it just a pressure vote, given that you didn't want to lynch him?
by Cursed_Pride
Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:06 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

So, apparently, the votes on Kazekirimaru start when he makes this post.
@kaze, stardust and slowpoke: why did you blindly vote iso without knowledge of how it was a slip?
I didn't care about that scumslip nonsense. I just hopped on the wagon because it was there.
I think people voted Kazekirimaru for the bolded part of the quote.

Let's see about thinking this from a town mindset and a scum mindset.

If Kazekirimaru was town (and has a meta of hopping on RVS wagons to get decent discussion going) then I think he would have
pulled a gambit to hop on, explain his reasoning, and hope people don't vote for him. Does Kazekirimaru have a meta of prolonging/voting on RVS wagons?

Random thought here, but from reading Kazekirimaru's posts it feels like he's not really trying to analyze the reactions to the RVS wagon at all, just more like.. caring about defending himself. He belittles Captain Murphy for voting him and does some more defense stuff. He then complains about differentiating metas, and still no analyzing his votes on the wagon or analyzing the reactions to his vote on Iso.

I'm not sure where I'm going with here but I need to eat. However, this lowers my null read of Kazekirimaru a bit.
by Cursed_Pride
Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:56 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Quick break to respond.

Ugh, quoting is bad on this site so I'm just going to bold the people I respond to.
Wheat_Grinder
Can you give me an example as to why self awareness is scummy?

Also, how can you determine my alignment from two or three posts?
rezombad
Around seven games, with three having played in 2010.

I'm not keen to cross the streams, though.
by Cursed_Pride
Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:31 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

General thoughts.

I still want Wheat_Grinder to answer my question from post 25. I don't understand why it's serious.
RVS!

Vote Player: Rezombad
Why?
For no apparent reason.

I'm opposed to the mass name-claim. Flavor gaming never ends well.

I'm also not understanding why people want to do it - my guess is that Kazekirimaru proposed it as a reaction-test and people blindedly started going with it, lemming style.
Rezombad is still scum and he's bussing the hell out of Kaze.

Kazekirimaru is scum too.

I kinda skimmed this and it's 2AM but I think imopen2 is also scum.

Tomorrow I do deeper analysis because there's a lot of MS folk here aren't there.
Why do you think rezombad, Kazekirimaru, and imopen2 are scum?
My brain hurts already.
I agree.

Okay, so from my point of view, there was a RVS wagon started on Iso for reasons I don't understand and then the wagon shifted to Kazekirimaru for reasons I don't yet understand.

Iso (4): rezombad, Stardust, Slowpoke, Kazekirimaru

Kazekirimaru (5): Captain Murphy, Iso, rezombad, Slowpoke, imopen2

nThe bolded people worry me.

Let's see their reasoning for their votes, shall we.
vote iso

scumslip

on to day 2.

I actually have no idea if what Iso did is scummy, but I'm sure he did it on purpose (i.e. kaze's newbie mafia), what reactions he was looking for, I have no idea. But I don't want to try to out-Iso Iso, and I got some good reads off of it.
I'm not comfortable with rezombad calling out Iso's post as a "scumslip" then immediately backtracking and saying that he had no idea what Iso did as scummy.
My guess is that he labeled the Iso post as a "scumslip" to try to get more
votes on Iso so he could analyze the wagon or call out people who rolled with it, which he does later in the post.

Let's move on to Slowpoke.
k then. I thought there might've been something I was missing.

Vote: Iso anyways.
@Kaze: Did you also not read the OP? Iso bolded "Town" when they are not bolded in the PMs.

Unvote.

Vote: Kaze
I'm not sure why no one is calling out Slowpoke on this - he votes Iso for apparently no reason, then just votes Kazekirimaru for no reasoning at all. I don't like this.

Rescind Vote (Unvote)
Vote Player:
Slowpoke


I mean, at least rezombad is trying to analyze the responses, if I'm following his train of thought. But you? You aren't doing anything.

Cursed_Pride: Why do you shout RVS?
Because RVS is an enjoyable activity and I take pleasure in voting people in it.

Oh and you answered why you voted rezombad and all of my other questions. Never mind, then.

Next up: Finding why the heck Kazekirimaru is two votes away from being lynched.
by Cursed_Pride
Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:24 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

Vote: rezombad serious vote.
Why is the vote on rezombad serious?
by Cursed_Pride
Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:55 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

RVS!

Vote Player: Rezombad
by Cursed_Pride
Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:07 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Checkbox Mafia - Day 3 (Abandoned)
Replies: 748
Views: 211064

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