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by Pedros
Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:13 am
Forum: Mountain (Standard)
Topic: Slaughterhouse 5(Mardu aggro)
Replies: 55
Views: 29708

I like how this deck looks like.
by Pedros
Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:54 am
Forum: Mountain (Standard)
Topic: Slaughterhouse 5(Mardu aggro)
Replies: 55
Views: 29708

I see only 10 flyers ;)
by Pedros
Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:54 am
Forum: Mountain (Standard)
Topic: Slaughterhouse 5(Mardu aggro)
Replies: 55
Views: 29708

Dont like War-Name Aspirant here. Edge Warrior lord seems better.

You really think you can have so many 4 drops?
by Pedros
Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:50 pm
Forum: Mountain (Standard)
Topic: Slaughterhouse 5(Mardu aggro)
Replies: 55
Views: 29708

I am interested, however I started new work and defended my diploma so dont have lots of time now. I am however liking mosts lists.

Btw you need 13sources to cast Chief of the Edge... he has 12, so not that bad.
by Pedros
Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:44 pm
Forum: Mountain (Standard)
Topic: Slaughterhouse 5(Mardu aggro)
Replies: 55
Views: 29708

I run it, however thought it was slow. Last season however was the one that didnt push synergy over power - it was thoughtseize, verdict, revelation and lots of enchantment removal world.

In thijs deck however I really like it. Count number of token producers. Between rta, mardu charm and hordeling you have lots of "burst", lots of sustained card advantage between rabblemaster, brimaz and sorin (not need of xenagos and green splash).

I woukd however make some changes. I dont like 4 dictates in a deck that doesnt even run 1 spear. Purphoros is so good I wojld try to play 2. Not a huge fan of heros downfall in a deck running 15 black sources - woukd change it to crackling doom. While devils are cute and good vs both red and black agro, I am little afraid of not running magma sprays or magma jets vs rabblemaster.

There is lots of trafic between 3 and 4 drops, while not at 2 and 5.

I also dont really
like manabase. When I tried to buikd 23 lands agro deck I didnt feel the pressure of running trilands.Ths deck runs to many painlands forman midrange deck without enough scrylands.

I understand that synergy is a key, however for me it is really hard not to play even 1 powerhouse such as sarkhan.

It is also so temting to splash blue for this ephara card advantage... this card is ridiculous in a deck running both rabblemaster and brimaz and instant speed token generators.
In a deck I played at the end of the season I found lack of evasive threats. Both Sorin and Sarkhan might be enough to fix this, as I would preffer not to run convoke spectral procession...

Also not sure if every mardu deck should run butcher of the horde. It might be another good card on its own that can carry a game.
by Pedros
Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:27 pm
Forum: Mountain (Standard)
Topic: Slaughterhouse 5(Mardu aggro)
Replies: 55
Views: 29708

Top4 in Magic League: Mardu Tokens

[deck]4 Battlefield Forge
2 Bloodstained Mire
4 Caves of Koilos
4 Mana Confluence
2 Mountain
4 Nomad Outpost
1 Swamp
4 Temple of Triumph
2 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
2 Butcher of the Horde
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
1 Purphoros, God of the Forge
4 Hordeling Outburst
4 Dictate of Heliod
4 Lightning Strike
4 Mardu Charm
4 Raise the Alarm
4 Stoke the Flames

2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
4 Banishing Light
3 Forge Devil
2 Hero's Downfall
2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
4 Thoughtseize[/deck]
by Pedros
Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:21 am
Forum: Mountain (Standard)
Topic: Slaughterhouse 5(Mardu aggro)
Replies: 55
Views: 29708

Hoplite is actually pretty good in what you propose. Haven't thought of him. I do agree that Sorin is just better here. Purphoros is fine, offers inevitability. Not sure about Hall, might be too cutesy, but we all have our faults.;)

Wanna do a comprehensive writeup either tomorrow or Wednesday, fuck this tablet writing.:D

As for 2 drops, Tymaret warrants a spot. It's a blocker against aggro and recursive engine against slower decks. You can always SB him when he is not useful. On the other hand, h falls into the "cute" category. Really shines in black base though.
You're list looks very good. Chain is excellent if it doesn't jack up your mana-base. That's a BIG iff.

Since you run hoplite, I wouldn't try to make chain happen.

I'd also play sorin before I played Sarkhan. Sorin is amazing.
I also love Sorin, however I dont know if in "heavier red" version you could run it. He needs 18 white AND black sources, and 11 sources of each color. If deck can support it (I think I will play him if I have ~17 white AND black sources) I will change Sarkhan for him.

Hall is like an anthem, White Weenie played him, I dont know if it is sweet slot or not. Both Rabble Red and Mono Blue played 1, I think it have slot.

LP: I dont understand this sentence: Since you run hoplite, I wouldn't try to make chain happen. Care to elaborate?

No one answered my question about mana/ligtning strikes/crackling dooms ;/
No love for War-name Aspirant as a two drop? 3
power, runs through tokens and carytids...
I dont like conditional creatures too much. Without raid he is 2/1 for 1, we only have 8 1 drops, 4 which wants creature cast in 1st main phase. I see no synergy here ;/

@All

I also need to know if we can afford to run some scrylands here. Black agro sometimes had like 2 of them. Currently mana without them is doable, however quite painful.
by Pedros
Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:09 am
Forum: Mountain (Standard)
Topic: Slaughterhouse 5(Mardu aggro)
Replies: 55
Views: 29708

Also, people on Sally are suggesting Obelisk of Urd. Because apparently since we're WBR, we don't have any other 6 mana wincons!

On second thought, it does have convoke. Not a fan of anthem effects though.
Before Obelisk of Urd I would play Hall of triumph and Purphoros.
by Pedros
Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:09 am
Forum: Mountain (Standard)
Topic: Slaughterhouse 5(Mardu aggro)
Replies: 55
Views: 29708

I dont know what is better: Hoarding outburst or Mardu Ascendancy, both seems decent 3 drop slot.

Also there is really no good 2 drops. I only found Tymaret,Akroan Hoplite and Jeerin Instigator. First 2 works really well with Ascendancy/Outburst and Rabblemaster.

Cracling Doom is bonkers, so is Stoke the Flames. I should probably find space for 4rd Cracling Doom. I dont really know if I should play Lightning Strike or not, probably yes, however I dont have slot for it ;/

Demon is awsome, there is no really point arguing about it.

I decided to run 23 lands and 3 "fun offs": Hall of triumph, Purphoros, God of Forge and Sarkhan, Dragonspeaker. Sarkhan might be to expensive, however it is 1 off, so it shouldnt be a problem. If I however see it not function well he will get a cut.

So full deck:

[deck]
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Akroan Hoplite
2 Tymaret, Murder King
2 Jeerin
Instigator
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Butcher of the Horde
1 Purphoros, God of Forge
1 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker

1 Hall of Triumph
3 Cracling Doom
3 Mardu Ascendancy
4 Stoke the Flames

23 lands - still need to figure out.
[/deck]

Still need to figure manabase. Currently need 18 red, 13 black and 13 white to cast every spell without a problem, probably can get as low as 17 red (stoke can be convoked, Sakrhan is 5 drop).

Hall of a triumph pumps every creature in a deck.
Purphoros acts as a global pump with an really good burst with all the tokens this deck can generate.
Both Tymaret and Demon works well with tokens and Jeerin Instigator.
Both Foundry Street Denizen and Akroan Hoplite works good with Ascendancy. Denizen into Hoplite into Ascendancy is 2 into 10 damage into 14. That is quite good for 3 cards.

Deck have potential, what I need from you guys is:

* Are 23 lands to low?
* Is there a point to play Sakrhan in this style?
* Does this deck needs 4rd Cracling Doom (probably
answer is yes) and some 2 mana burn (probably lightning strike?)
* Does this deck have space for Purphoros and Hall of the Triumph? Or is it overkill / is not needed / have space in sb.
* What is better: Mardu Ascendancy or Hoadling Outburst?
* Do we want Chain to the Rocks in sb? We need this information while building manabase, as you would want to have ~11 mountains then. Or is Murderous Cut just better?
* Do we even care about 2 drops? They arent crazy good or awsome, they are soso. Tymaret gives reach, Akroan Hoplite isnt awsome on its own, Jeerin Instigator is lategame option. They however have synergy I listed before.
by Pedros
Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:46 am
Forum: Mountain (Standard)
Topic: Slaughterhouse 5(Mardu aggro)
Replies: 55
Views: 29708

You are right, you cant play everything ;/

Red based is really good, probably only small splashes (if even those are needed).

Hoardling outburst is really awsome, as they pump Foundry Street Denizen. What I would like to build is RDW like deck splashing for ascendancy, charm/cracling doom and demon. It would also give you staying power in sb (sorin, ajani, sarkhan, etc).

There is enought 1/2/3 red creatures and removals to make the deck happen, 2 other colors would just give bigger creature removal (cracling doom), hasty topend (butcher, mardu chief), more staying power (ascendancy works as protection from anger/drown) and more reach (tymaret anyone?). All creatures would be red so you can also play hall of triumph, and there is quite a lot of tokens (outburst, rabblemaster, ascendancy) so purphoros is also good.

Removal is awsome: Magma Jet, Lightning Strike, Stoke the Flames, Cracling Doom all can damage opponent
and act as reach. You can also play Sarkhan as more flexible finisher - works as dragon and mortars).

Deck I juts thought about might be quite awsome to be honest! Back to the drawing board :)
by Pedros
Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:38 am
Forum: Mountain (Standard)
Topic: Slaughterhouse 5(Mardu aggro)
Replies: 55
Views: 29708

I dont really like monastery swiftspear, however like other stuff and what this deck tries to do.

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