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by BiddingMaster
Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:35 pm
Forum: Strategy and Theory
Topic: playing red white burn
Replies: 24
Views: 14611

I do still hold on the idea that results determine a player on some level though im trying to change that mentality. A long time ago I considered my results to be the only determining factor of a good player. Thats is not how I judged others but that was the standard I set for myself. A friend of mine who was not a strong player at the local store I went to completely changed the way I viewed myself and I realized that I had set unrealistic expectations. I had been bombing out of events at the time and zendikar was a set where I either did really well or got massacred. After one of these events I was talking to him and I said that I wished I could show these people how good of a player I was. He told me that it didnt matter how well I did in events that he still considered me a good player. The way I talked about certain cards and how to play the game and getting card advantage and advancing your board state was on a higher
lvl than of his understanding of the game.
by BiddingMaster
Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:57 pm
Forum: Strategy and Theory
Topic: playing red white burn
Replies: 24
Views: 14611

makes sense

what is a waac player?

The reason I sacrificed the phoenix was to buy myself time to draw assemble or chandra. So looking back those cards would not have helped me anyway and I didnt see that. The fear of all of those in his hand got to me.
I read in an article somewhere about putting yourself in positions to get lucky more often than not because if you dont create situation to get lucky you never will. Ive been testing out the theory but I should have realized that I was already in a position of getting lucky with the cards I had on board. Drawing a burn spell every turn would have been lucky enough.
by BiddingMaster
Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:22 pm
Forum: Strategy and Theory
Topic: playing red white burn
Replies: 24
Views: 14611

Im at 18 life. I have Phoenix, young pyromancer, mutavault and 6 other lands and im empty handed. Karten is at 8 life with a demon, mutavault, agent of fates and about 4 other lands and 3-4 cards in hand. I forgot the exact number. he has one blue mana untapped with mutavault.

Turn passes to me

i draw warleaders helix. i decide to animate muta sac to demon and attack with young pyro and phoenix. He blocks with agent playing mizzium skin on agent so I point helix at him dropping him to 4 and sacrifice the token to agent of fates trigger. He goes to 2 with phoenix damage.

Pass

He draws and plays artisan of forms and goes to combat. i sac phoenix to tap demon. attacks for 3.

pass

I draw magma jet which he counters at my mainphase.

pass

he attacks for 12

pass

I draw land so im dead but if i had a burnspell or pheonix he would have died. He said he had the second dispel.
alternatively i could have
tried to whittle down his clock which was at 39 seconds when i drew my land and died. He would have just played faster and probably just killed me anyway. the only detail im fuzzy about is his exact number of cards in hand but it was no more than 4.
by BiddingMaster
Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:40 pm
Forum: Strategy and Theory
Topic: playing red white burn
Replies: 24
Views: 14611

Id like some imput into this game state at a de I was in. In game three of round 4 im playing against frank karsten. He is piloting blue black heroic. He has two cards maybe three in hand and desecration demon, agent of fates and a mutavault. Its my turn and i draw warleaders helix for the turn and on the board i have like 7 lands one of which is a muta yp and chandra's phoenix. im at 18 and he is at 8. He has like 50 seconds on his time clock to my 2:23. I could try and grind him out of the game but i decided to go for the kill and force him to "have it." I sacrificed muta to demon slammed my yp and phoenix sideways to bait a card then i helixed him down to 2 after he tried to make me sacrifice my yp or phoenix after blockers with agent trigger and mizzium skin so i sacrifice my token off helix and letting my yp die. Next turn he plays agent of forms attacks and passes. I draw jet and play it and he has dispel,
so on his turn i leave up phoenix to block take some damage hoping to top deck burn for the game but i drew land. he said he had another dispel. Was it wrong to do this or should i have timed him out of the game? If i had done nothing on my turn i would have sacrificed phoenix to demon and taken 3 and he plays agent of forms. passes. with 2-3 cards in hand. I have helix and jet on my turn so I try and helix him and he makes me sacrifice a creature which would be a token from magma jet. He plays dispel on jet or helix, not sure which he would choose though. and if he had the second dispel then both of my spells are countered but his clock is slowly ticking down. this leaves me with 1 token yp and muta. sac muta to demon. next turn draw land. if he draws triton tactics or puppet strings he wins the game but if he doesnt he possibly runs out of time. Either way he just has to have it so both plays are risky. Im torn between the two lines myself. what you guys think and what you would have done. Can i count
myself as a good player for almost beating a hall of famer or am I looking into this too much? Just curious. I just wished I had more testing against the deck to smooth out my plays.
by BiddingMaster
Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:02 pm
Forum: Strategy and Theory
Topic: playing red white burn
Replies: 24
Views: 14611

I have spent the last 2 daily events that i have played where i always tried to get as much value out of yp as possible. It seems really miserable to play it just to die so i wasnt playing it until turn 4 with charm,strike and preferebly jets. Also we are running 4 of them so its not unlikely to play it on 4 then jet to find another one. So as far as i have read on the pyro red primer i was playing mine correctly unless the strategy changed halfway through 95 pages.

about pe. The way i feel we get the best value out of it on the play is to just eat their land they hit us with a spell. they might not have a second mountain in hand so they will have to play a tapped land. then we untap play yp and leave open mana.thee next turn they kill it we pump out damage and a token. next turn phoenix attack for 4. assuming they have used a spell on our face we are at 16-18 and they are at 9. Seems like we just win here and if they
play a foundry they are at 7. On the draw if they lead with t2 spell then t3 phoenix we can shock or jet it. We play pe just to eat a land and for the same reason. they are probably not going to have a second untapped source so they are on the plan on buying pack phoenix on our eot. which leaves us the ability to play yp and have mana open. I feel that the mirror is so tempo heavy that you cant afford not to use it if you have it.

on the the third point. can gw aggro beat assemble plus yp tokens and blocking with phoenix? It seems like we can just value town them out of a game sine alot of our removal kills 4/4s and the late game slam assemble and they concede. I had games come down to top deck mode where if i had aseemble i just win. im pretty sure mono green cannot beat it unless they get such an aggressive draw but you have to accept a certain amount of variance as a reality. You cant win 100% of the time. as far as the strait mono red deck with fanatics, we can grind them out of the game the same way
with gw aggro just blocking with phoenixes and elemental tokens and then slamming some helixes into assemble. seems like they cannot win. I had a friend who played uwr control and he said that aggro couldnt beat verdict into assemble at his fnm. Any way those are the plans im going to be on for my next dailies to see how in reality they work instead of theory.
by BiddingMaster
Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:51 pm
Forum: Strategy and Theory
Topic: playing red white burn
Replies: 24
Views: 14611

nvm i found it.
by BiddingMaster
Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:31 pm
Forum: Strategy and Theory
Topic: playing red white burn
Replies: 24
Views: 14611

ok. im conused. Is the pyro thread the r/w burn primer thread or is it a separate thread.
by BiddingMaster
Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:19 am
Forum: Strategy and Theory
Topic: playing red white burn
Replies: 24
Views: 14611

playing red white burn

question number 1. do we jam young pyro on turn two every time or are there situations to where we have it in our opener and do not play it until later?

question number 2. do we wait until our mirror match plays chained to the rocks for us to play peak eruption or do we just play it for the greatest tempo advantage?

question number 3. are there any other decks that we want to board in assemble against? like green white, mono green, or mono red with fanatics?

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