Dies to Removal

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I'm shocked no one here has mentioned #JesseGate.

Dammit, I did though!

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Basically the same as Engineered Plague then, no?

A more flexible one, yes.

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At what point do you just drop the non goblins and play Goblins?

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That's a bit too far for my taste.

If Kiki fails, how are you killing your opponent? You can draw all the cards but Resto is your only real threat.

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Where are people bringing in Engineered Explosives. Is Pernacious Deed worth considering? Deed is better in Deadguy Ale because it's much better at the attrition game than Jund. If you were playing a less aggressive list without Rabblemaster, I'd consider it. EE comes in against Elves, Lingering So...

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I shaved down to one. The Resto Angels are usually enough, he's a weak body on his own, and in this recent build he's really only good with Defector and Kiki.

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Where do you bring in Spirit of the Labarynth?

Blue decks, Oops All Spells, Show and Tell, Storm, etc.

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It's become a popular strategy in decks like Maverick and a lot of Deadguy Ale pilots are adopting the strategy.

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I don't hate it.

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My multitasking, multi-tab lifestyle finally got the best of me.

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I'm sure you can do better. Pyroclasm is all you should be worried about.

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This is my list: http://decks.deckedbuilder.com/d/84344 The Surgical / Extripate slot was originally Slaughter Games but I found it sloww enough that I never got to cast it. Trying to tweak it as I see fit. There is a lot of counter top in my meta. Take this from someone who picked up Deadguy Ale a...

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What can I say? I'm a Johnny Spike at heart.

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Also it's sweet to have people here testing and tweaking. I've been playing this for a year all alone :cry: I do a lot of janky brewing in my head and was thinking of the best way to abuse Humble Defector. I was reminded of this thread and basically merged your archetype with my ideas and viola! Ba...

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I've found Goyf, Tasigur, Primetime, and Gurmag Angler to be too hard to play against without Path. Also I feel like you'd just lose to Twin.

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Stronghold does allow Wall of Omens to block and kill x/2s though. And it's better with Thalia. And it's better if you want to attack AND defend. Both have different upsides. I just think the deck is defensive enough as is and err toward more aggressive options to even it out.

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I'm partial to Slayers' Stronghold.

Sunhome is better because your dude can survive combat more easily. It also does more damage with the three-power creatures in the deck.

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Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion is an acceptable KWR substitute. Might even be better than KWR.

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I've settled on Forked Bolt being a necessity at this point. Also, in my experience I want to max out on Wall of Omens before Humble Defector. I'm actually considering going down to three Defectors and shoving in a third Finks or a Huntmaster. How has 2 vs 3 Kiki worked out for you? Did you test 3 a...

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More cards that produce Thopters just spoiled. Also an artifact lord. Also a five mana Cataclysm except its caster gets to choose for everyone.

This set is bonkers and I can't wait until the prerelease.

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Since testing my newest iteration, I have not lost a game. And I've played against legit tier 1 decks doing it. 2-0 vs Jund 2-0 vs Jund 2-0 vs Mardu aggro (not tier 1 :D) 2-0 vs Merfolk 2-0 vs Soul Sisters The Merfolk match included such highlights as my opponent trying to screw me off red only to b...

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Don't post late at night, kids.

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Vexing Devil is at least better then Wild Nacatl imo, so no I don't think your crazy.

You're crazy.

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KWR wins a game for me.

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Second player rage quit in game two after I grinded through 15 turns in first game and won off Kiki-Jiki.

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Just trounced two Jund players.

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Confirmed. Deck is amazing.

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The deck I most recently posted.

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For instance, if you're REALLY worried about dredge and are playing a black deck, I'd play Nihil Spellbomb before I played Relic of Progenitus.

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It really depends on what you're running.

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If you were to tap after Flickerwisp came in, it would change ownership before Flickerwisp's ability resolves, but it would still work. Where this actually matters is with Village Bell-Ringer or Restoration Angel. The proper way to do it is activate Defector, hold priority, cast Bell-Ringer or Resto...

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No, just tap and donate, then Flickerwisp it.

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My friend complains about red all the time and how he hates that mono red is always viable and how WotC has it out for blue.

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Finally a decent card for Trinket Mage to find.

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Dammit, the new green enchantment is awesome. If there's anything I love in this game it's sacrificing creatures for value, and this is a card that could get me away from red strategies in Standard.

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Collected company even.

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I'd also like to make note of the green splash for Wolf Run and sideboard tech. I felt like the deck wanted more reach late in the game. Township is a bit slow.

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Not sure about these new lists you guys are posting... aren't they doing tge same thing (but worse) whan Twin? Not really. The philosophy for this most recent idea is to bury opponents in value and win the long game. This deck generates much more raw card advantage than Twin does while being able t...

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We seem to be on a similar philosophy. My only beef is Anafenza because she doesn't play well with Defector and Flickerwisp. 4 Mindcensor may be over the top. I'd try 2 first. Also, I think you want at least six copies between Wall of Omens and Defector to make t3 Flickerwisp effective.

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I agree with his logic, especially if he was expecting a lot of matchups where Eidolon is bad (Affinity, mirror). You want to be drawing spells that go to the dome late in the game, so you have to keep the creature count low.

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