Dies to Removal

Jace is getting better in the meta now that Treasure Cruise and incredibly aggressive UR Delver decks are gone, but if you can't play both then I understand the appeal of Dig. Our SBs are typically silver-bullet SBs and Dig, while a one-shot instead of brainstorm every turn, is better equipped to help you find an answer immediately. It's also flexible mana-wise in a deck that taps quite a bit.

i don't hate that, depending on your expected meta. If you expect Delver to still hang around, and maybe Maverick too, then it makes sense. I'm expecting various combo decks like TPS and Sneak and Show to try to force come-backs, so I'm sticking with Thoughtseize until I'm proven wrong.

thank god. this deck don't need no sieging.

is that a joke because it's all some people on this site talk about? If serious, I'd say no. You don't play any other cards at 4 CMC except the 1 SB Night of Soul's Betrayal and getting that kind of thing Dazed would feel pretty bad.

Basically this is my "lets see what happens in the format" build. Right after TC's ban I expect combo decks, which is why I'm leaning heavily on Hymns and FOWs, and I'm expecting RUG Delver to bounce back in a loud way. RUG Delver is THE Wasteland deck. Of course that doesn't mean we shouldn't run our own, but at the same time I think having basics might be important right now.

at least you put in the full 22 though

No, not on 20 lands. When I build it with 22 or cut the basics then wastes come in.

[Deck]
Creatures
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Shardless Agent

Spells
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
4 Abrupt Decay
4 Ancestral Vision
3 Hymn to Tourach
2 Thoughtseize
2 Dig Through Time

3 Liliana of the Veil

Lands
4 Underground Sea
2 Bayou
2 Tropical Island
3 Polluted Delta
3 Verdant Catacombs
3 Misty Rainforest
3 Wasteland


Sideboard
1 Null Rod
1 Creeping Tar-Pit
1 Golgari Charm
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Nihil SpellBomb
2 Disfigure
1 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Thoughtseize
1 Night of Souls' Betrayal
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Graftdigger's Cage
1 Sylvan Library
1 Vendilion Clique
[/Deck]

Back to good ol' shardless BUG

I think you're at 58 cards MD.

So here's what I slapped together 2 days ago to create a starting point for rebuilding the deck. Obviously will need to change some things around, but I think it's a fine starting point.

[deck]
Creatures - 14
4 Deathrite Shaman
2 Baleful Strix
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Shardless Agent

Instants - 14
4 Brainstorm
4 Abrupt Decay
4 Force of Will
2 Dig Through Time

Sorceries - 8
3 Hymn To Tourach
2 Thoughtseize
3 Ancestral Vision

Planeswalkers - 4
2 Liliana of the Veil
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

Land - 20
3 Verdant Catacombs
3 Polluted Delta
3 Misty Rainforest
3 Underground Sea
2 Tropical Island
2 Bayou
1 Creeping Tar Pit
1 Swamp
1 Island
1 Forest

Sideboard - 15
2 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Disfigure
1 Spell Pierce
1 Flusterstorm
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Null Rod
1 Golgari Charm
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Notion Thief
1 Massacre
[/deck]

I'm expecting people to try to shove Worldgorger back in Reanimator and also TPS and Sneak + Show to make a come-back.

If you're not running Jace then the urge to run Needle is definitely a lot stronger. It can also shut down a Jitte, which is really where Null Rod shines in Legacy, but of course has broader application. I run a 2/2 split of Jace and Lili though so I usually don't have Needle in the board. I'll post my list tomorrow.

Also, are you preparing for more reanimator and other combo coming into this "new" post-Cruise meta? It's why I decided on 4 FOW in the main and I see you've done that too, whereas in the past many lists ran 3 main 1 side.

yeah i sleeved mine back up yesterday. of course, in the interim i've forgotten what i landed on as my best MD and SB configurations, so I'll have to look to see what the meta looks like right now.

I really like a couple baleful strix and at least 1 jace in the main. also think my cap on lili is 2. what are the reasons for your numbers?

If you're like me, you've probably switched from Shardless BUG to BUG Delver now that Treasure Cruise is around, right?