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by Alex
Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:37 am
Forum: Market Street Café
Topic: Kalonian Hydra
Replies: 25
Views: 11226

[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=81194#p81194:12g9de34]Thrillho » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:23 pm[/url:12g9de34]":12g9de34]Angel of thune and angel of serenity are completely different cards that do completely different things and have completely different mana costs and effects.[/quote:12g9de34]
Yep, and the decks that are playing AoS right now would rather have Archangel of Thune. They were playing AoS because it was something powerful to do with lots of mana, but it's a much slower way to win and it isn't a safe bet to even achieve that.

Decks like that get some insane mileage out of Gavony activations, and even if Archangel of Thune is just "Chump block your guy, gain life, anthem my dorks," that's [i:12g9de34]usually[/i:12g9de34] a pretty big game, especially if there's an actual Gavony in play or in hand for next turn.
by Alex
Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:22 am
Forum: Market Street Café
Topic: Kalonian Hydra
Replies: 25
Views: 11226

thragtusk hasn't even rotated out of standard and they print two five drops worse than it but at mythic rarity and suddenly everyone's forgotten how absolutely insane thragtusk is.

by the time you cast, attack with, and reap the benefits of archangel of thune, you could have activated gavony township three times at the cost of not gaining 3 life or having an additional 3/4 flyer in play. given that to get the full effects of the archangel you need to have a lot of other creatures in play to get +1/+1 counters, and given that adding additional 5cc creatures understandably puts a damper on playing multiple creatures, it would make more sense to play more less expensive creatures with gavony township that will ultimately have a bigger effect on winning the game than one
large, slow, 5-drop that, if unopposed, does what every unopposed 5-drop creature in the game tends to do.
Archangel of Thune is likely to see play in the slots where people were previously playing Angel of Serenity since it's easier to hard cast and the decks that aren't playing super-AoS shenanigans would rather just have a body on board. That being said, it's okay in Naya in place of one of the Hellkites, because having "another" Gavony Township is actually good real estate in that deck.

Otherwise it's pretty mediocre. But they might also be toning down creatures in Theros so who knows, it might be the next chase mythic. It really depends on what rotation gives us to work with. It's still certainly more playable than Kalonian Hydra, which is actively bad.
by Alex
Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:24 pm
Forum: Market Street Café
Topic: Kalonian Hydra
Replies: 25
Views: 11226

Does "force your oppt to have removal or just bend over" count as "affecting the board"?
No because there are other cards that do that better. This argument is only worthwhile when there is nothing better filling that role. (See: Baneslayer Angel.)
by Alex
Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:11 am
Forum: Market Street Café
Topic: Kalonian Hydra
Replies: 25
Views: 11226

when thraggy rotates what other cards are so good that competes with this?

Iunnoa fter testing with it today Ive been converted...
With Farseek leaving the format, probably some non-green beater. My bet is that it will be white and it will fly.
by Alex
Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:31 pm
Forum: Market Street Café
Topic: Kalonian Hydra
Replies: 25
Views: 11226

Decks usually have outs to every card... Don't use the "diestoremoval" argument here, surely you can see the irony.
So what about "Doesn't survive until next upkeep?" Is that a suitable roundabout?

No seriously though this card doesn't impact the board when it comes down so it probably won't see constructed play. We have so many good creatures already.

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