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by Alex
Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:14 am
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

^^ not me trying to internet thug. Just don't understand why that is something to be proud of or how it relates to the discussion
I also threw out some duals and a beta birds so suck on that too you hobagle.
This is some gangster shit.
by Alex
Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:58 am
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

I just explained why what you're doing means you are an asshole. You're doing the magic card equivalent of trading the island of Manhattan for some turquoise beads.
So what? The crux of your argument is that it creates bad feels, but I've been going to this store for the better part of a year and nobody has any issues. If they're not comfortable trading with me they don't have to, but thus far nobody has ever refused since these guys value the cards not just based on their monetary values.
by Alex
Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:53 am
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

I don't tell them what the cards are worth, I just find something I want and go "I want this." I let them pick what they think is appropriate and if they're happy I'm happy. I don't feel bad about it, it isn't my job to tell you what your cards are worth, and worth is in the eye of the beholder anyway.
so you're sharking them.
There is an objective value of worth for magic cards.
like I don't have a problem with trading a kid 20 bulk rares for a snapcaster mage, but I always let them know so a reputation doesn't get around that I'm a total scumbag when it comes to trades[/
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I mean, it's not like I said "You can only take this much," they took as much as they wanted and were on their merry way. :shrug: I roll through that store about once a month and pick up a couple of cards here and there (they don't have a lot of value cards, but they're awesome if you're looking for cards that are out of print) and help them build decks and stuff. I also tend to leave bulk commons and uncommons with them for free.

They're board gamers, these cards don't have the same value to them as they do to someone like me. I'm pretty sure if they cared about the monetary value they'd use their phones, it isn't like I've ever stopped them or talk them out of doing so.
by Alex
Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:24 am
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

I don't tell them what the cards are worth, I just find something I want and go "I want this." I let them pick what they think is appropriate and if they're happy I'm happy. I don't feel bad about it, it isn't my job to tell you what your cards are worth, and worth is in the eye of the beholder anyway.
by Alex
Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:59 pm
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

It isn't sharking, you offer person a card for their card and they say ok. You did nothing wrong the agreed to it, they wanted to make the trade
When you take advantage of the fact that one party does not know card prices and leverage their lack of knowledge against your knowledge, which I assume is what you mean by "offer person a card for their card and they say ok" that is the literal definition of sharking.
Value is subjective though. There are a lot of different levels of players. Finding casuals that are simply interested in bulk rares shouldn't make you
feel bad, especially if you're giving them the better part of a new deck they're working on.

Example: There's a store near my house that is mostly board and tabletop games, not really big into CCGs. They have some people there who play Magic pretty casually. One day I showed up with my bulk box and found these two guys who were working on some bad tribal decks (sphinx and cats I think?) so the bulk box, to them at least, was a goldmine. I traded one guy like 12 bulk rare sphinx's for a foil Boros Reckoner, and the other guy I traded a set of Door of Destinies for a Dark Confidant. Was it a balanced trade? Clearly not. But those guys got what they wanted, and the value of not having to find these "cool" cards on their own outweighed monetary value. Everyone in all parties is going to actually play with those cards, so no bad feels. (Although I have yet to find the last Bob I need, so...not quite yet.)
by Alex
Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:47 pm
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

Said the Disney employee
Former Disney employee.

Also that's Prince Alex to you, peasant. :sherlock:
by Alex
Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:31 pm
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

"blessed by not having a conscience"
When I watch people struggle with moral decisions, I grin to myself knowing that I don't have to ever make those.
by Alex
Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:57 pm
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

You can't be serious. Dude, they invented overseas slave-labor outsourcing AND overzealous litigation, not to mention their truly abysmal business practices (rewriting history and/or classic literature to fit their ideals, vaulting their product, etc. etc.). Yes, they are good to their performers and gave you a chance to bang princesses all day, but don't pretend they're a "good" company just because you struck it lucky.
You act like I care about overseas labor and theft. None of these things affect me, and I was blessed by not having a conscious. :shrug:

All I know is what I experienced in the US of A.
by Alex
Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:51 pm
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

You know you could have just started with "I used to work for Disney" and we'd all just have assumed you were a shark, Alex. ^_^
Disney's an awesome company to work for. I don't know where the stigma that they're some type of evil entity that only grubs at money came from, because during my six years there I never once encountered a situation where that was the case.

The whole price "gouging" thing is actually a big fallacy. Everything isn't expensive because "Disney is trying to rip you off," it's expensive because they have to cover the parts of the year where they operate at a HUGE loss. From July to about November, most of the
parks and resorts are under 10% occupancy, which means they're operating at a loss of just shy of $300,000 a day.
by Alex
Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:40 am
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

I like when people not only expect you to look up prices on your phone for them, but also require seeing it as if you're going to lie about what the site says.
I would totally lie to their face. Asperger's is awesome for this because I don't think they can ever tell.
I'm pretty sure that this isn't because of Asperger's, it's just who you are. I also have Asperger's, and in this situation, I'd almost always assume
that they knew I'd be lying to them. Maybe I'd just been playing Asperger's wrong my whole life.
I'm a very good actor. You can ask Nuwen or Fate, I'm pretty socially normal now, at least on the surface. But it took years of conscious effort on my part to get to that point.

It's mostly just fake charisma, though. I picked it up during my time at Disney. :sherlock:
by Alex
Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:53 pm
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

Have you ever played Bang with all of the expansions? Cause it sounds super similar.
by Alex
Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:48 pm
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

Oh, so this is like Bang!

I'm amazing at games like these.
by Alex
Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:26 pm
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

I have no idea what that is.
by Alex
Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:27 pm
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

I like when people not only expect you to look up prices on your phone for them, but also require seeing it as if you're going to lie about what the site says.
I would totally lie to their face. Asperger's is awesome for this because I don't think they can ever tell.
by Alex
Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:50 pm
Forum: Magic General
Topic: Sharking
Replies: 71
Views: 247634

I don't feel shame, and I am an avid binder grinder. I spend a lot of time reading about the financial side of the game, as as such I have a pretty good feel for whether or not things will rise or fall in the coming weeks. That being said, I'd never lose a minute of sleep over getting a Tarmogoyf for $50 in value, nor would I judge someone harshly who tried to do the same to me. It's your job just as much as it is my job to know what your cards are worth. I'm not obligated to tell you the worth of your cards, and if I am, why am I suddenly obligated to tell you the RIGHT price? Especially in this day and age, where smartphones are a thing? If you fancy yourself a savvy trader, do some research. If you don't feel comfortable, use your phone or ask someone else to look things up for you. It isn't like you'd just buy a car for whatever a dealer told you it was worth, you'd do some research. Why wouldn't you do the
same here?

It's never awkward for me when I meet other people who are clearly trying to shark me. Usually we both laugh about it.

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