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by RedNihilist
Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:59 am
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Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Sorry guys, I've been stupid on various levels.
by RedNihilist
Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:30 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Rotfl.

Going back to this:
posting.php?mode=quote&f=13&p=291712

I've devoured LMD because somebody privately walked us away from Orzhova and the only two players that still hadn't planeswalked up to this point are Pedrobear (that is town) and LMD.
Since he hasn't walked away he is scum, thus the "optimal play" I've mentioned earlier.

Also, Manders' math is completely messed up:
"He knows we were in LyLo and that, if we mislynch, all he has to do is kill Town Tonight and he's won the game."

If we consider the worst case scenario (5 town vs 3 scum), with one scum dying tonight, a mislynch and a successful NK from scum, we go 3 vs 2 and that's LyLo again.

Claim:
I'm Tibalt, if I get NKed my killer dies with me.

Good way to handle G_R the game, I'm outta here.
by RedNihilist
Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:19 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Pedrobear » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:32 pm wrote:GR, do you think Red's choice could be a good plan for scum ?

I mean scum killing McDonalds (80% scum) doesn't seem a good plan for a scum win.


Devouring LMD was the optimal play, I don't want to spoon feed you but you've got enough elements to understand why.
by RedNihilist
Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:44 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

( G_R ) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:44 am wrote:
RedNihilist » Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:57 pm wrote:/looking at (G_R) in particular

I wrote two posts explaining my reasons. I also wrote another calling you part of the scum team.

If you're town, I don't understand why you can't see how easily the champion plan could have blown on our faces.


I posted more than once trying to get in your heads that your worst case scenario was actually manageable, what's the point in deny even basic discussion?
I know I'm stubborn but FFS I'm really tired of this whole charade of acting without thinking, and your nice "if you're town" premise really explains a lot on your mudslinging strategy.

---

Devour LMD
Vote (G_R)


I'm open to discussion, we've got ~6 days to the deadline.
by RedNihilist
Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:27 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Quick T/S list:

Pedrobear
hamfactorial

Col. Khaddafi
rezombad

rcwraspy
( G_R )
Mcdonalds

I think thar if we hammer LMD, I'd devour raspy or G_R. If we move our lycnh elsewhere, I'll devour LMD.
I'm open to discussion, though.
by RedNihilist
Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:19 am
Forum: Completed Games
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

hamfactorial » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:35 pm wrote:Alright Red, who are you killing?


I'll think about that, I don't want to lose us the game on the spot. :|
by RedNihilist
Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:18 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Are you kidding me? We could just have the scummiest players place their votes first and put ham at L-2, then have reliable players (Pedro + ham) hammer.
The plan was actually feasible and you know that, since you spent the last two pages asking for claims and fear mongering.
by RedNihilist
Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:57 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

/looking at (G_R) in particular
by RedNihilist
Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:56 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

This plan is useless right now, so Planeswalk.
Now, can we talk a bit on why you guys decided to move from Theros? This is starting to get funny.
by RedNihilist
Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:04 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

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by RedNihilist
Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:15 pm
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

( G_R ) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:54 pm wrote:
Pedrobear » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:02 am wrote:People still able to planeswalk :

1. Mcdonalds
2. hamfactorial NOPE
3. RedNihilist
4. rezombad NOPE
5. rcwraspy
6. Pedrobear
7. Col. Khaddafi - silenced
8. ( G_R )

I'll keep mine. There also been a planeswalk privately submitted to Stardust (the one to Kamikaka)

We're in the hands of the scummiest? Fahck


You sure do love fear, huh?
by RedNihilist
Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:08 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Pedrobear » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:32 pm wrote:Red : it has already answered. We can be fucked by scum shenanigan consisting of : waiting for the last vote, planeswalk away, hammer the last vote and get a lynch instead of a Champion.


( G_R ) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:37 pm wrote:I'm guessing you missed this:
Stardust » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:10 pm wrote:
hamfactorial » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:43 pm wrote:@Stardust will a successful vote end the day?

Yes.

Also, these votes are the same as votes to lynch. The votecount was not reset when you walked here and will not be reset if you leave. Only the end result is different. Be warned.


The "be warned" part is especially telling.


Thanks, I missed that.

Pedrobear » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:32 pm wrote:I also approve your point of view but we can also be completely wrecked if we champion a scum. Ham is 99% town but what if the 1% happens and chosen as Champion ?


( G_R ) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:37 pm wrote:You'd risk being wrong about Ham and giving him the power to win the game for scum? Even giving Pedro the choice doesn't sound so good anymore, we'd have to believe his reads are extremely fantastic.

Let's get out of here and do it the old fashioned way.


I don't see *any* reason to walk away from this plane.
Yeah, we could "mischampion" rather than mislynch, yet townies are more than scums otherwise the game would have been over already, so I don't really think you're getting things straight.
Chances of failing a lynch would be actually higher that failing to find a townie even if we just threw a die, so please avoid thinking we're trying to gamble or anything as we're not.

The strength of this plan is that there's no way for scum to derail the actual lynch, given that we can play around the planeswalking shenanigans.
by RedNihilist
Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:25 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

I wanted to add a more verbose overview of what our game state is in this moment from my point of view, but it's being a busy day here in office so I'll make this short for now:
Theros seems to be a powerful plane, and whoever walks away from it should be lynched with great prejudice.

Question for Stardust (maybe this has been already answered, but I don't see it): moving away from Theros would keep the vote count as it is, or would it rather being reset as it would represent a votation for something else?
If the former is true, we still have ways to play around scum's shenanigans, but I really hope that we're in the latter case because it would suck to be exposed to random tricks that could give the advantage to the faction with a better timezone.

Now, the last point:
voting Pedrobear is probably the worst choice.
It's not like I don't trust his skills, but a random townie would have the benefit of choosing among a pool of six people (8 alive players - himself - Pedrobear), while he would have a pool of seven people from which to choose from.
by RedNihilist
Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:04 pm
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Champion hamfactorial

I'll explain myself in a bit.
by RedNihilist
Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:31 am
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

If you read my previous post I'm far from being against that idea, yet I'd like to have something more solid than "I assumed speaking with deadguys is a town ability".
by RedNihilist
Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:08 am
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

... and then we discovered he was Liliana (lol)
Still, assuming things is something that rezmo dislikes - like that time I said I considered ham like he was confirmed town and he went mad at me.

Maybe I should roll back and consider only Pedrobear as confirmed town at this point.
by RedNihilist
Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:52 pm
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

This afternoon I forgot about G_R altogether, so things are not as easy as I hoped they would be.
Anyway, given the fact that rezmo and Pedro are confirmed town, the pool is actually pretty narrow now (G_R, LMD, teh_colonel, rcw).

Also, welcome back sweet "(View: All /In topic)" feature.
by RedNihilist
Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:21 pm
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

I'm sorry for my inability to keep up with the game, but it seems like it's already pretty much solved.
I'll follow up tonight after work + evening futsal + mandatory shower because I don't want to be missing something.
by RedNihilist
Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:16 am
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

<- be back on monday
by RedNihilist
Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:56 pm
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Vote imopen2
by RedNihilist
Sun May 31, 2015 3:01 pm
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Unvote for now.
by RedNihilist
Sat May 30, 2015 8:33 pm
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Vote t3h c0l0n3l
Planeswalk
by RedNihilist
Tue May 26, 2015 3:15 pm
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

... AND I'm forgetting your language.
by RedNihilist
Tue May 26, 2015 3:14 pm
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Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Sorry guys, I'm through a bad working period.
by RedNihilist
Wed May 20, 2015 9:19 am
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

rezombad » Mon May 18, 2015 6:15 pm wrote:
RedNihilist » Tue May 12, 2015 6:45 am wrote:
rezombad wrote:You guys need to stop modgaming.


Explain yourself.

Just because they're neighbors doesn't mean that he's town or scum and shouldn't be used as the sole reason for clearing him as town.

I want a t/s list from you, red.

And until I get one I'm going to:

vote rednihilist


As you wish.

Prob. town:
hamfactorial
imopen2

Grey area:
( G_R )
Col. Khaddafi
McDonalds
rezombad
rianalnn

Leaning scum:
WitchHunt
rcwraspy
BearHunter

Now, please explain me why do you care so much about the way I evaluate ham.
He's by far the towniest player in this game even if we ignore the whole bromance thing that seems to bother you so much, so I don't really get what your problem is.
Do you read him as scum?
Have you got some implicit statement?
Are you just trying to keep us from doing any kind of PoE?

Enlighten me, please.
by RedNihilist
Thu May 14, 2015 6:57 am
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

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Planeswalk
by RedNihilist
Tue May 12, 2015 2:45 pm
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Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

rezombad wrote:You guys need to stop modgaming.


Explain yourself.
by RedNihilist
Sun May 10, 2015 9:44 pm
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Seriously though, what would be the point of having Manders linked to a scum player?
Ham is confirmed town to me.
by RedNihilist
Sun May 10, 2015 9:05 am
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Topic: Planechase Mafia - Game Over
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

rezombad wrote:
RedNihilist wrote:
imopen2 wrote:Vote: Col. G

Asking for power roles to out themselves with results and speculating on why a townie was NK'd are both no-no's in my book


imopen2 wrote:Sure, w/e.

Vote: Col. Khaddafi


Is this premeditate or what?

What about imopens thought process do you not agree with/understand?


I'm addressing the double vote.
by RedNihilist
Fri May 08, 2015 10:28 pm
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Vote scumbag
You're at L-2, come up with a T/S list please.
by RedNihilist
Fri May 08, 2015 7:44 am
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

premeditateD* -_-
by RedNihilist
Fri May 08, 2015 7:44 am
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

imopen2 wrote:Vote: Col. G

Asking for power roles to out themselves with results and speculating on why a townie was NK'd are both no-no's in my book


imopen2 wrote:Sure, w/e.

Vote: Col. Khaddafi


Is this premeditate or what?
by RedNihilist
Fri May 08, 2015 7:42 am
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

!
Votecount, please.
by RedNihilist
Tue May 05, 2015 7:52 pm
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Col. Khaddafi wrote:What do you mean it should have been random? Do you have some inside knowledge I'm missing here?


If I was scum I would have given a high priority to her lynch, as she's pretty a good player.
Seeing her lynched doesn't surprise me at all.

You felt the need of telling us you were under the impression the kill was random though, why?
by RedNihilist
Tue May 05, 2015 5:16 pm
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

I don't get it.
Explain us why you think it should have been "random".
by RedNihilist
Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:25 pm
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

I remember you doing the same thing (got no time, school) in another game, mind remembering me which game it was?

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Do we have any way to verify this claim overnight?
by RedNihilist
Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:59 am
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

rianalnn » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:46 pm wrote:
rcwraspy » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:24 pm wrote:
rianalnn » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:14 pm wrote:Lets be honest I would never come up with that plan as scum.

why is that?

Because as scum i make it a point to both not have original plans and also to lynch people who do.

I infamously lynched pale mage for using math to determine how many scum were left.


How is that thing called... self-awareness?
by RedNihilist
Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:58 am
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

Gratz you scummy faker :toot:
by RedNihilist
Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:27 am
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Planechase Mafia - Game Over

rianalnn » Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:14 am wrote:Lets be honest I would never come up with that plan as scum.


LoL
by RedNihilist
Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:24 pm
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