Dies to Removal

Yeah, put me down as almost fooled by the RedScumDust Case.

Also, Dechs, this game is going to give me fits in all our future games. You were so scummy. Like, the scummiest. Seriously.

You have two options here.

1. You can believe that I have no idea how to be town. You'll have to chalk my role hunting up to thinking that was somehow beneficial to town, that I thought forcing claims was how you clear people as town.

2. You can realize that I wasn't playing for this game, but for all of my next games.

His name is Robert Paulsen.

You know, I kind of hope that Red isn't the scum. I'd like to be able to shoot someone.

Votes? Ha! I don't need votes. I have a revolver.

Smash Bros is the reason I hung on to my N64 for so long.

So, uh, hey Pie. We gots us a lynch and we're on the tangent of a tangent right now...

You're not alone.

Hell, I have to keep a set of Metric and Imperial wrenches in my house for everyday repairs!

As an engineer, believe me, that infuriates me.

It's spelled color, dumbass.

Hello, I'm the rest of the world. Nice to meet you.

Rest of the world? How many miles away is that?

I bet it takes at least a few gallons of gas to get there.

But yeah, at least we can see your name now.

It's spelled color, dumbass.

That's because my ability use will have proved I'm town and you're all that's left. I mean, if I don't kill anyone, then we of course lynch me.

So, here's the way I see this playing out.

Scenario 1. Red flips scum.
Either a) game is over and we win or b) Ham is actually a Serial Killer and I shoot him and we win. Hooray.

Scenario 2. Red flips town.
Either Rez or Star or Dechs is the scum. I will shoot Rez, essentially validating my claim. If Rez flis town, that clears him, too, and we hang Stardust in the morning. We win. Hooray.

Ham, Red laid out a great case. Stardust just ripped it to pieces. I don't need to hear anything. Flawless plan is flawless. If Stardust is actually wrong, we just hang him tomorrow.

Actually, it just occurred to me that Red's ability makes no sense as a town roleblocker anyway. If both scum survive the first Day, that ability is 100% useless at stopping the nightkill since Red's target was notified immediately following Day's end.

Wow. It never occurred to me to think that.......wait......I do the same thing but their ability still goes off?

Thought?

You read that wrong. It's an ability you use in the day that lets you still perform an action at night (i.e. night kill).

The ability basically only makes sense as a scum power.

I'd just like to say that this was one hell of a day (as in, 24 hours) to catch up on.

Woah. My head's still spinning.

town one-shot double roleblocker

vote red

Explains no night kill well enough.

unvote
Vote Red Nihilist

I'm still going to shoot you if he flips town.

By you logic, we should be lynching ham then?

How did you get there with my logic? He's neutral. He's the same as you. You're not scum. We need to hang scum. We don't need to hang Ham.

I can't tell if you are pulling a page out of my book by questioning the no night kill or are town trying solve the game?

Have you read anything I've said so far? Honest question.

I started this day trying to solve backwards from no night kill. I was eliminating people from a list of scum suspects, trying to find the one or two that I wasn't sure of. My list narrowed down to
Rez and LMD as the only possibilities. Stardust agrees with Rez, not with LMD, and suggests Red as the other. I'm on board with that, because I'm pretty sure this game is over when we hang Rez.

Stardust is not a Serial Killer; this game doesn't have one. Look at what we know so far: Mafia team, I'm a Vig, and there was no night kill. So, two kills got foiled. Roleblock and probably a doctor. You want me to believe that there was somehow a third!? Fuck no.

What do you think about LMD so far. Ham or LMD look like the busser of Kaze to me.

LMD didn't bus Kaze because he didn't vote Kaze.

Ham claimed neutral way too early in this game to have been smart. He should have played like you did, appearing as town as he could without revealing his alignment. His claim was not advantageous at all; I believe it. Ham's neutral. So are you. I don't care whether you say "self-aligned." It's neutral to town or scum. You don't care who wins as long as you're alive at the end. That's neutral. I'm going to keep calling it that.

I will vote Rez if he admits who he targeted last night. Will still learn more info even if he lies.

Well, that's a great incentive to make Rez tell us who he targeted...

You can still use it to help the town... Just think of it as a way to steal a power. Hit who you think is scum.

Fine, I'll shoot Red. Can we just hang Rez now and end this game?

except i like being town. The fact that you have a fake claim prepared has me a little nonplussed though.

Stardust likes being town, too. One role in particular. The way he's been guarding that role makes me think I know what he's got. It explains all the behavior from day 1 that I thought was scummy, too.

What he was pointing out was how easy it was to come up with a claim of choices that forces town.

I'll shoot Red if you give me compelling reason to ignore LMD's actions at the end of Day 1 (my strongest evidence against him being town).

Well, I'm glad someone else said what I was thinking.

Also explains why you dared me to shoot you.

Well that certainly starts to help explain why no night kill happened. We've got at least one hider and it's possible we have a commuter and I bet someone's a doctor. Even with two neutrals, this seems like a hard game for scum to win.

Ah, so you're saying you rigged your choices so that Pie must have made you town, because a Commuter scum doesn't even make sense.

Well, that's convenient.

Thank you, smartass, those websites are blocked for me here at work.

I asked because I couldn't just google it.

Can you still tell me what a commuter is, please?

So, Rez, you're a commuter? I've never heard of that role. Can you describe it for me?

Why does Rez want me to undo my my disable of ham? I got the confirmation that ham is disabled and no comment from the mod that I can change it later. I know Rez is aggressive, but his demands make no sense. I can not see the general direction of where his votes and reads are going.

If you can change it then red could have changed his yesterday. If red could have changed his yesterday then he is a liar and we should lynch him.

He never said he couldn't change it, only that he didn't ask if he could.

He can't hurt us tonight*.

I don't think it's been described more precisely than that.

We know that it has to be submitted before Twilight and that it will "disable" a person in the night phase.

Again, please, if you're town, just make a case against someone that's not the neutrals. We're tying to find scum, here.

Yeah, I went on a hard tilt early game.

Seems to me you're the one tilting right now.

Yeah, so now I want to hang you for two reasons.
1. I think you're scum.
2. You act like a 12 year old.

And we certainly can't count on me hitting the right guy.

Look, Rez, if you're a town guy, do us all a favor. If we don't lynch you now, I'm shooting you tonight. You're dead either way.

So, again, if you're town, just give us everything you can to help us out and let us clear it with your corpse.