I really did enjoy this, even though my master plan was foiled in the end. I really felt like I could have a major impact on the game and that my individual decisions were important. The setup was beautiful for that and I loved the flavor that everything had. I would totally play this again if I got the chance.
I can't really believe two of us came up with the bomb vest idea and that we both survived until the end. That might be something that you have to rework as far as a timeline to complete.
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- Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:48 pm
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- Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:45 am
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Tangential question:
Is this a setup that could be run again? Half of the fun (and most of the frustration) was not knowing what the mafia could do. Would running it again later make this setup better or worse? I'm sure there are things Stardust could do to change up the townie list so we wouldn't know which characters to expect.
Is this a setup that could be run again? Half of the fun (and most of the frustration) was not knowing what the mafia could do. Would running it again later make this setup better or worse? I'm sure there are things Stardust could do to change up the townie list so we wouldn't know which characters to expect.
- Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:45 pm
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I think that having shorter/smaller games is the answer, but being up front about it is key. We need to tell players not to get involved if they're only going to post every other day. We need people who are willing to post at least once a day. That will go a long way to making the games more enjoyable for everyone playing. Then, when everyone's having fun and not bitching about lurkers and not being able to get votes because no one's actually playing, it will begin to attract more players from the rest of the forums.One thing I've been thinking is that maybe this site is better prepared to play shorter games. I'm thinking week long deadlines max for each Day (maybe a bit longer for Day 1). Reduces the stress of arguing for days on end and lessens the amount of reading required to do actual analysis (something that people seem reluctant to do at times).
On the other hand, some players seem to only want to post every other day, making it tough to hold to a strict deadline like that. I don't know what the answer is. Maybe mafia's just dead. Seems like half the players in this game didn't really want to play.
- Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:07 pm
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- Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:42 pm
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- Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:58 am
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- Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:48 am
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- Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:46 am
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Um, yes I did.I used my second shot last night on a quote from post 919 (DK), where he says "I'm totally scum." He was being sarcastic, but stardust accepted this submission, and I got a positive result. DK was telling the truth when he said he was scum. Curiously, DK never participated in the "I am town" posts, so I had to dig quite hard for a viable statement.
- Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:54 am
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- Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:56 pm
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- Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:53 pm
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- Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:44 pm
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- Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:24 am
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- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:59 pm
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And what IS certain right now?Mafia is won by looking at what IS certain, at what you can see is true, the patterns you can see in player's words and thoughts.
We've got one claimed cop saying you're scum. We've got another saying the first one is town. We've got a claimed failed vig that doesn't mean shit.
IF ANYONE IS GETTING HUNG, Az, YOU'RE IT.
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:52 pm
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- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:50 pm
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- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:49 pm
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- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:47 pm
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- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:44 pm
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- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:44 pm
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I don't think he'd go that far. His abilities are certainly creative and work within the setup.
Example is from that Gone Postal. There was a mail system that everyone could use. Ham's vig shot was tied to the mail as a mail bomb. One of the scum's abilities (the one we used to sabotage that vig), was a mail randomizer.
Example is from that Gone Postal. There was a mail system that everyone could use. Ham's vig shot was tied to the mail as a mail bomb. One of the scum's abilities (the one we used to sabotage that vig), was a mail randomizer.
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:41 pm
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- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:40 pm
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Which could mean you're the saboteur....but we had a kill on the night that you theorize Imopen was tampered with...A device sabotage is perfectly reasonable to expect from Stardust. It would also explain the no night kill Night 1 because there should be only one scum left. Using the ability takes the place of the night kill (according to Stardust's previous setups). Boom. Solved.
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:40 pm
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This is one of the reasons I still suspect you. I mean, you were MoJo's first implicated target. If you had the sabotage ability, you could easily have done it to MoJo and Imopen's result is true.For this theory of yours to work, we're assuming that imopen's ability was tampered with, AND that CK's vig-kill was tampered with, by a third-party, without any reason to believe that the scum have one of those abilities.How about that saboteur ability we're theorizing? We knew day one that MoJo was building a day kill. Sabotage it at night, it fails during the day.
Plus, if it were a sabotage device like you said, then I don't think Imopen should have gotten any results. It should have simply failed to work, as did CK's vig.
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:38 pm
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- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:34 pm
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- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:21 pm
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Scum didn't know who MoJo was going to shoot. He was certainly a loose cannon. They could have sabotaged his invention on that grounds alone, the night before. Then scum didn't risk getting vigged and could use the failed shot to implicate a townie.Also, you're looking at this completely backward. What scum would have been "setting this up", way back on D2?
What scum would have had an ability to use to protect Imopen, during the day, and WANT to use it, when he could have reaped a free kill by letting it happen?
We've verified that the kill could only have come from scum. If you think that some friendly scum helped save a townie Imopen...I don't even know what.
That's EXACTLY what I did.
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:19 pm
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Where did I say that? I don't believe the two scum team, so of course I'm not implicating CK set up his buddy. Of course there's no room for LMD or CK to be scum if Imopen is scum. There's only one scum left.
A failed vig kill means nothing to me. I'm telling you, I set up a town on town failed vig and it won me the game.
A failed vig kill means nothing to me. I'm telling you, I set up a town on town failed vig and it won me the game.
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:12 pm
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Are you fucking kidding me? We have no idea what LMD has or hasn't done. We have no idea what CK really has done. We have no idea what Red has done. We have no idea what you've done. Any one in that list could be scum and setting this shit up.Yes...we do. CK and I have had this conversation twice, back and forth.Do we in this game?Did you have the actions of every single townie and scum player accounted for, in that game?This is the exact reasoning I used to push the final mislynch to win the game as scum in Gone Postal.We have a verified, failed kill on Imopen. CK isn't lying - look at the thread. And if CK isn't lying, Imopen is guilty as sin. No townie was responsible for that failed kill, and no scum would have used a protection ability on Imopen during the day, on Day Two. You don't have to take it on faith from me, think it through for yourself.
Didn't think so.
All living players deny responsibility. So, all living townies are ruled out.
GR was already dead, so it wasn't him.
Ham declared at post 861, IIRC, that he was building his bat device. Rez built his comm device. I stated this publicly, while he was alive, and he did not contradict me. That's everyone.
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:06 pm
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Do we in this game?Did you have the actions of every single townie and scum player accounted for, in that game?This is the exact reasoning I used to push the final mislynch to win the game as scum in Gone Postal.We have a verified, failed kill on Imopen. CK isn't lying - look at the thread. And if CK isn't lying, Imopen is guilty as sin. No townie was responsible for that failed kill, and no scum would have used a protection ability on Imopen during the day, on Day Two. You don't have to take it on faith from me, think it through for yourself.
Didn't think so.
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:02 pm
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This is the exact reasoning I used to push the final mislynch to win the game as scum in Gone Postal.We have a verified, failed kill on Imopen. CK isn't lying - look at the thread. And if CK isn't lying, Imopen is guilty as sin. No townie was responsible for that failed kill, and no scum would have used a protection ability on Imopen during the day, on Day Two. You don't have to take it on faith from me, think it through for yourself.
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:26 pm
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It used to, at least. I've had a ton of PMs with Stardust recently and in one of them he mentioned that building something submitted on a previous day doesn't count as one of your invention submissions unless the time requirement changes. That says to me that time requirements can change, but I can't say for sure if they have.If you want I can submit plans for a chronoboost as well.From DK's perspective, anyways. I'm not sure it's quite so cut and dried as that, but I do know we're probably going down in flames if we mislynch on me, leave someone who's demonstrated inexplicable untargetability alive, and eliminate the only guy who took steps to give CK another vig-shot for tomorrow.
It takes just one day, doesn't it?
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:47 pm
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This statement admits that some times you don't play to your win condition.You want to play to your win condition more often than not.
We're on a magic forum, I'm going to use a Magic example. I was playing in a Legacy tournament with my Jank Ass Clerics deck. I was at four life, had three zombies in play, and my opponent attacked me with seven elves. I tapped my Shepherd of Rot, taking myself to one life and my opponent looked at me like I was crazy. I generated some more zombie tokens, shat all over his attacking elves and killed him the next turn. It was close and without the extra three life we both lost, I wouldn't have been able to do it.
My point is, sometimes you gotta sacrifice something to gain something. Sometimes, when it looks like you're not playing to your win condition, you're doing the best thing you can.
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:32 pm
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- Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:28 pm
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If he was tampered with, the tamper ability must be out of shots by now. I think you're both town and he'll get a town result on you tonight.The other four townies get to finish building powers and Imopen can retry the cop thing so we can be more certain.
Please explain how Imopen coming up with another cop result tells us *anything*.
Arrite. Fine. Get Imopen to three votes. I'll lynch him. When he flips town, we'll kill you tomorrow and throw this game.The advantage of taking an actual lynch shot today is that it won't end the game. We'll have two shots to get it right, not just a single one. It's less useful to worry about mislynching, than it is to worry about the consequences of when you mislynch, or who you mislynch. We don't want *one* shot to get it right with lots of information. We want two or possibly three shots to get it right, and our 2nd shot will have even more information than we'd get if we no-lynched today. But we don't get multiple shots if we let Imopen skate through today. We only have one way to deal with him, the lynch, and it won't be ready in time.
Did you read my analysis that demonstrates that the only scum team which you believe in as a possibility that can feasibly win is a Red/Imopen team? If it's a single scum, no matter who it is, they've already lost, even if we mislynch AND mis-vig AND mislynch someone again. That's not what you have to worry about. The only thing that can stop us now, is if we fail to play safe against the two-scum gambit.