Dies to Removal

Thats fine, what are you running? I'm on Jeskai for standard but never played Legacy so gonna try n pull Burn together.

Been mostly posting in the deck threads but figured I'd ask in here if anyoine is going to the SCG Invitational in Jersey and wants to work on decks together for it?

Just listened to the podcast on the Mardu deck.

Chapin read off the deck and the missing land is a Nomad Outpost.

[deck]Mardu Tokens[/deck]

Chapin/Flores special from their podcast, seems like it could be pretty sweet against Esper Dragons.

Is the deck 59 cards or am I messing something up cause Cockatrice says 59.

@NME- Mind posting the link to the podcast where they discuss the Mardu list?

I've been dismissing Mardu even though they are my fav colors because the lists are too midrangey for my style and I suck playing them.

This one feels JUST aggresive enough..

How has control Mardu tested? I feel like you wouldnt have the tools to fight the other control decks because you have no early pressure, they counter your stuff, then Dig and you lose...

I love how this deck can get under the control decks with tokens and back it up with powerful burn and removal and card advantage.

Wow that Mardu Tokens list looks pretty sweet actually.

Tokens are great vs the Mono Red decks full of X-1's and efficient burn and pretty good vs Control with all their spot removal and sacrifice effects - especially Raise the Alarm as an instant.

Crackling Doom is obv insane right now.


I might seriously play this tomororw at the RPTQ...long night of testing ahead.

Wow won 14 of 15 games played today while testing for the Regional PTQ. Atarka Charm too strong.

I come home all settled on Atarka Red but man that Mardu list posted above is fricken sweeeeet!!

Had to pop in and say Dos Rakis was the funnest deck I've yet to say(with Boros Burn a close second).

Man, the thread was so booming then too, we would metagame every week. I think I won 65% of all the FNM's we had that season.

I pissed everyone the fuck off since they were running Tier 1 decks and would get smashed by Dos Rakis every week.

I'll never forget you Falkenwrath Aristocrat.

Was just going to post that article.

""I basically just cut the Dragon Whisperers and the Roasts, added some different creatures, and moved black to the main deck," said Lévy. The new additions in the creature department included two morphs, Ire Shaman and Jeering Instigator, which had been good for a few surprises in the feature match area already, when opponents expected one but suddenly faced the other.

The big game changer, however, was the inclusion of the full four-of of Murderous Cut which Lévy called the most important card in the deck. "I like Murderous Cut. That was what the deck was missing at the PT," he said. "I love the creatures, the Phoenixes and Thunderbreak Regents. They were good and still are. But in a deck like this you need a good removal spell to back that up. I had trouble with so many different creatures, and now Murderous Cut really deals with all of them."

If I had the cards, I'd play Junk Aggro in a second.

Eh I tested Atarka red all last week and ran it at States and I just hate the deck. Granted I was eliminated(0-2) without keeping a single 7 card hand but all week the deck didnt feel that great but I had limited options so I played it anyways.

Deck is good in theory and obv ran well at the PT but its just not for me....

Got my Regional PTQ coming up on the 25th....torn between Jeskai/Mardu/RB Dragons and Raph Levy's Big Red.

I really like how the deck is so evenly split across the curve...

6 1-drops
8 2-drops
8 3-drops
8 4-drops

I saw the twitter link posted 5 pages back or so but here is thedeck

[deck]
Creature (30)
4 Ashcloud Phoenix
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Dragon Whisperer
3 Lightning Berserker
4 Thunderbreak Regent
4 Flamewake Phoenix
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
3 Zurgo Bellstriker
Sorcery (3)
3 Roast
Instant (3)
3 Wild Slash
Land (11)
3 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Temple of Malice
Basic Land (13)
13 Mountain
60 Cards
Sideboard (15)
1 Swamp
3 Self-Inflicted Wound
3 Ultimate Price
1 Harness by Force
2 Virulent Plague
3 Monastery Swiftspear
[/deck]

I'm just a little confused on the Swiftspear in the board....not many spells.

Loved this deck that went 7-3 in Standard at the Pro Tour and thought you guys would like it over here too. Its a sledgehammer type deck.

[deck]Planeswalker (2)
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
Creature (10)
4 Thunderbreak Regent
4 Stormbreath Dragon
2 Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury
Sorcery (8)
3 Read the Bones
4 Thoughtseize
1 Crux of Fate
Instant (15)
4 Hero's Downfall
3 Draconic Roar
3 Bile Blight
3 Foul-Tongue Invocation
2 Kolaghan's Command
Land (16)
4 Temple of Malice
4 Bloodstained Mire
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
4 Bloodfell Caves
1 Radiant Fountain
Basic Land (9)
5 Mountain
4 Swamp
60 Cards
Sideboard (15)
1 Kolaghan's Command
1 Crux of Fate
3 Anger of the Gods
3 Duress
1 Foul-Tongue Invocation
1 Virulent Plague
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
4 Goblin Rabblemaster[/deck]

It feels like it has game against Aggro, Midrange and Control.

Good threats, but nothing that can't be Downfall'd so a little weak there.

Great disruption and amazing removal. Cant complain here.

Decent card advantage engine in Read the Bones and Chandra. No major spell to win the game though.

I love the Rabble out of the board vs control. Thoughtseize into Rabble seems amazing.

Purp, mind sharing what tweaks you made to improve the RG matchup?

I was running his updated version after the SCG Invitational. I think only 2 Twin Bolt in the SB.

Really torn between this and Mono Red for States on Saturday..

Deck actually felt really clunky at times and I felt like I only top8'd because my opponents were shitty.

Couldn't build a version of jeskai that could beat GR variants consistently. Switched to a tweaked version of Hooglands UR list, and it feels great! 3-1 vs abzan control, 5-1 vs GR variants, 2-0 vs UB, and 1-1 vs esper.

What tweaks did you make?

I lost in top8 at a PPTQ last weekend with Hooglands UR Dragons but wasnt sure if it was that well positioned vs the CVM Monsters list, which I expect to be popular at States.

The few matches I've played didnt feel very good without Scorn in my draw. Our burn lines up bad vs Caryatid and Courser.

Just went over the past 2 pages and clearly I missed it the first time around. I did look over the past 2 pages of posts before I posted but was on my phone and didnt see it

My bad.

Thanks dick, I only really am on the deck threads frequently n in here time to time. Figured it would be here if anywhere.

So Zemanjaski just got DQd for cheating at the Grand Prix in Australia, anyone know Wtf happened?

I'm assuming he fucked up his deck again with not all cards in same orientation since he never plays paper magic

My approach to building decks.

1. Check whether Young Pyromancer is format legal.

2. If not, move formats until it is.

3. Begin the herculean task of coupling YP with instants and Sorceries. While the synergy is small, I suspect that I may be onto something.

Burn just aint the same without you bro...

Dechs you're making assumptions, not me. If rathe never interact with you, it's just such a waste of time.

@ dpaine: all that matters is winning = play whatever, just be sure it wins.

But also, don't use SCG results as indicators of anything, it makes us all dumber.

We know you hate SCG Open, but so far its one of the only events we have to go off of. Its better than nothing till the Pro Tour.

I appreciate what you did for the deck last season. Just figured I owe it to you to let you know that Burn is back for this season- whether its a more Boros control shell, Boros burn or Jeskai Burn. I love your work and am cautiously excited to see what you could do with this archetype for this season.

We lost two 4-damage spells but we gained one so now we have two 4-damage spells, just like it was before Stoke was printed and burn was still good.

Mana could be better but we played guildgates last season in burn at one point in time and it was fine and the Tri-Lands are obviously better than guildgates. I was thinking of cutting 2 scrylands possibly to go to 3 tri-lands to make the mana better. If your mana is right, this deck is very hard to beat.

why would you be "cautiously excited"?

Cause it sounds like he has no interest in working on Burn at the moment... I love the thought of a new Zem Burn deck, but it might not ever happen. Hence why I am cautious in how excited I am.

Sounded really weird when I typed it....maybe bad choice of words.

Your deck doesn't need my seal of approval, my opinion is meaningless.

You were the Boros Burn master man, I value your opinion quite high in relation to this archetype and red in general.

Dechs you're making assumptions, not me. If rathe never interact with you, it's just such a waste of time.

@ dpaine: all that matters is winning = play whatever, just be sure it wins.

But also, don't use SCG results as indicators of anything, it makes us all dumber.

We know you hate SCG Open, but so far its one of the only events we have to go off of. Its better than nothing till the Pro Tour.

I appreciate what you did for the deck last season. Just figured I owe it to you to let you know that Burn is back for this season- whether its a more Boros control shell, Boros burn or Jeskai Burn. I love your work and am cautiously excited to see what you could do with this archetype for this season.

We lost two 4-damage spells but we gained one so now we have two 4-damage spells, just like it was before Stoke was printed and burn was still good.

Mana could be better but we played guildgates last season in burn at one point in time and it was fine and the Tri-Lands are obviously better than guildgates. I was thinking of cutting 2 scrylands possibly to go to 3 tri-lands to make the mana better. If your mana is right, this deck is very hard to beat.

How about elaborating or explaining yourself so we can have a discussion instead of simply saying I don't understand what you said.

All that matters is winning though.

You can win with a lot of decks.

Plus, not like the deck didnt win the first larger standard event of KTK.

If thats all that matters, why havn't you been playing the #1 deck each season?

I 7-0-1'd my first event of new standard; we split top 4 and the three other decks we're burn so you may be right. I just find the mana base so unappealing.

It could be worse but why don't you try to fix it?

Maybe it needs more tri-lands.

I have not found the mana to be that terrible when you have 8 scry lands and 4 magma jet to help smooth things.

You only need blue for 2 cards.


The deck is dope, it really is. Jeskai Charm is amazing, all modes are very strong. Mantis Rider as well just so good against green.

Green is probably my least fav color so you won't see my playing Caryatid and Courser.

You need a damn good reason not to play courser, caryatid and nissa right now.

Burn is back man. Been owning those green decks so far.

Had to chime in here and say that Jeskai Bun is the fuckin real deal.

Went 5-0 at FNM then 5-0-2 at States to split top4.

Well positioned right now and honestly not even sure what bad matchups are besides multiple Seige Rhino.

If you are looking for a deck still and liked Boros Burn at all last season, I HIGHLY recommend it.

Brimaz could easily be better than Rabble.

Why do you think its so much easier to sideboard for it??

That deck seriously looks like a nightmare

Hopping off the tempo train, the deck is just not for me. Gonna wait for Pro Tour to find a deck I enjoy

Word. Not feeling it at all.

You think its that different than the old boros burn?

I played it at Wednesday Night Magic and it felt pretty similar to me.

You also can play Dig Through Time in it...

Except he never actually did that Mantis Rider mistake

He attacked. And then cast the second one. He missed a chance to get in 3 damage. Which match were you watching?

On the coverage they said he actually did play the second one before combat, so he got the full 6 dmg.

Really don't like how Kevin is playing this deck over the matches I've seen online.

Dude puts the guys on top a lot more often than I would without a threat.

American Burn....

I agree, I'd def rather run Magma Jet over Titan Stength.

The other deck(Kevin Jones) is running Magma Jet but also running 2 Steam Augury and 2 Dig Through Time which I don't really like either.

I would rather have 4 Searing Blood over those I think.


The creature base is a little tricky. Pencil in 4 Mantis Rider and Rabblemaster.


From there, the last creature spot is up for grabs- I have seen Seeker of the Way, Stormbreath, Sarkhan, Swiftspear, Ashcloud Pheonix.

Jeskia Tempo decks look dope.

Now this is a deck that looks a lot like Boros Burn.

Pulled a FOIL Polluted Delta and a regular Bloodstained Mire IN THE SAME PACK today...feels good man.

I think it has good potential as an aggresive deck as well.

Soldier of the Pantheon
Bloodsoaked Warrior
Raskaska Deathdealer
Fleecemane Lion
Anazfenza

Even Seige Rino at the top of the curve would be fine.

http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck_sear ... %2F21%2F14

Looks like Junk is pretty decent...

Been a long time since I ventured out of the Boros Burn forum but here I am!

Just wanted to chime in and say I really don't think a red 2-drop is viable in the B/r lists.

Consistency is always the issue with 2-3 color aggro decks and getting your splash color turn 2 is not going to happen consistently.

I think keeping as many of the early drops in the primary color and splashing for cards you either A) don't need on curve always Ie: Lightning Strike or B) are 3-drops or higher ie: Rabblemaster.


Additionally- I found Mardu Skullhunter to be quite good in the 2drop spot. He is almost a 2-for-1 really. He instantly trades with a card when he comes into play and if he does anymore damage or trades with a creature , you got some really nice value out of him.

WOW Seismic STOMP

Jesus....6 lands in a 17 land deck WTF