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- Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:15 pm
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- Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:07 pm
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- Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:55 pm
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- Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:41 pm
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- Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:33 pm
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- Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:51 pm
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- Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:47 pm
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- Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:45 pm
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I bet there is somewhere in that passive-agressive post of the likes: "you are critical of the staff/trolling the staff on other sites, so this played a role in your CI banning too."Can't wait to post senes reason why once I'm no longer mobile and can quote it over here, basically a combination of "you're kpaca" and I have a dissenting opinion.
- Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:01 pm
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- Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:57 am
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- Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:55 am
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Serves them right for abusing and harassing the staff by means of complaining in CI threads.Summary for those who don't want to (or can't) look:
> guy says "SCG is bad for Magic" (in relation to price gouging/market manipulation)
> mod infracts, claiming "accusations without proof are trolling"
> original guy posts details of a communication with Ben Bleiweiss as evidence of original comment
> admin infracts second post as trolling --> upgrades to suspension
> jeffbcrandall posts 50000 words defending SCG
> Ben Bleiweiss shows up and confirms everything original guy said
> CI thread started; infractions/suspension upheld; mod trots out the good ol' [Interpretation of the Forum Rules is always at the discretion of the MTGSalvation staff] defense; refuses to comment further.
For the record, trolling/flaming
now applies not just to users, but to companies/organisations/non-person entities "by virtue of being an indirect attack on the ownership / manager / employee."
Infractions for everyone!
- Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:56 pm
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- Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:34 am
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My favorite post on that Bannings thread on CI was this one, elegant in its simplicity:But yea, essentially they were duplicitous cowards who lied to everyone (people they once called 'friends' included) in order to perpetrate a scheme against a harmless community of posters with PG-13 sensibilities. They covered up for a grown man having an emotional meltdown over an internet power trip (Rianalann) and decided to accuse anyone critical of them for slander, malicious actions, etc.
So you guys lied about everything and banned everyone.
Cool!
- Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:27 am
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Well we in our community weren't having that much fun. Bear in mind that they were discussing about shutting down an old group of tight-knight friends and we didn't even had a backup plan a the time (the offer to host us from this site came later).
I'm not proud of it, but I admit I was internet mad for the first time in my life because of this. I managed to calm down like one moth or two later when I thought this was ridiculous and stopped participating in the discussions, so I just said I'd stop posting elsewhere than in the gutter.
Then out of the blue (coincidence?) Sene banned me and went to bed. The rest is history.
I'm not proud of it, but I admit I was internet mad for the first time in my life because of this. I managed to calm down like one moth or two later when I thought this was ridiculous and stopped participating in the discussions, so I just said I'd stop posting elsewhere than in the gutter.
Then out of the blue (coincidence?) Sene banned me and went to bed. The rest is history.
- Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:14 am
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- Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:13 am
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- Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:13 am
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- Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:09 am
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I mean, to this day I'm still dumbfounded about all this. Never in my all life I've seen people lying for so long about so many stuff. And to think that I saw this happen on an internet forum about magical cards even baffles me more, as I'd just expect such kind of stuff to happen over more serious IRL shit.
So many effing BS. The Closure of the Gutter thread, The "you guys harassed an innocent bystander but we're not telling who", the Gutter-Pegging staff endless discussions, banning everyone and slandering them to boot by announcing everyone was banned for malicious actions against the website, like if we were some master hackers or something. I mean at some point you have to admire the effort these guys put in weaving such an intricate web of lies. Goddamn, it takes serious internet dedication to pull such a feat!
Like people like Nai should have countless internet trophies for all the quality deception
they pulled for moths. Hot damn!
So many effing BS. The Closure of the Gutter thread, The "you guys harassed an innocent bystander but we're not telling who", the Gutter-Pegging staff endless discussions, banning everyone and slandering them to boot by announcing everyone was banned for malicious actions against the website, like if we were some master hackers or something. I mean at some point you have to admire the effort these guys put in weaving such an intricate web of lies. Goddamn, it takes serious internet dedication to pull such a feat!
Like people like Nai should have countless internet trophies for all the quality deception
they pulled for moths. Hot damn!
- Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:02 am
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That is indeed a very good catch, well played Blackhound.Speaking of old shit, I found the most interesting thing Boub posted while he was here was the following.
3. The purchase happened in December. Before that, it was just negotiations and people hearing about it, the discussion has been going on for months (like, 6 months+)
I thought 6+ months ? that would be just before the announced closure of the Gutter thread.
In my country there is a saying that goes: "You will catch a liar faster than a cripple". Not that we were still doubting that we were continuously lied to, but its nice to see someone trip over his lies.
Really, very good catch.
- Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:58 am
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- Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:51 am
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Also taking into account that while he was encouraging me from appealing a ban that was outright arbitrary, he was posting shit like the one quoted below in the comfort of his mod lounge.
I am truly deeply sorry for not being willing to appeal but I'm here to discuss things calmly with people earnestly interested in establishing an honest dialogue. What I'm not here is to entertain the fantasies of internet rapists.
I am also deeply sorry that my wife was involved in shit that had nothing to do with her just become some nobody had a huge internet grudge about some random guy who lives in another continent.
I am truly deeply sorry for not being willing to appeal but I'm here to discuss things calmly with people earnestly interested in establishing an honest dialogue. What I'm not here is to entertain the fantasies of internet rapists.
I am also deeply sorry that my wife was involved in shit that had nothing to do with her just become some nobody had a huge internet grudge about some random guy who lives in another continent.
[quote="Teita Rabishu"]Banning people who are chronically and incorrigibly detrimental to the community should not be seen as "hardline ****."[/quote:
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I just reread this all and I get the impression that you might think I am saying no more bans - That is not the case. I do not want people like Tormod, who really aren't that disruptive but are one infraction away from being banned permanently, to have some room to work with us. I think that for a lot of semi-trouble users long suspensions will be just fine and I want us to be more liberal in issuing those. But full on bans need to be reserved for seriously ****ed up things and the worst people on the site. The unmoderatable.
People that I think suspensions are okay with that we've had issues with:
(...)
Banned:
( N_S ) - He's been okay lately off site, but as recently as 2 weeks ago was browsing CI with Pinkfloyd's account. I started piecing together his personal history and he's been an absolutely unrelenting since Fall of 2011. There is a wake of destruction in his path that goes back at least that far. He is just too damaging to the site for me to
believe that he can ever NOT be a problem that will take out staff members.
Rippers - They stole stuff.
(...)
Sooooo, that's where I am at with that.
- Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:48 am
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- Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:56 am
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- Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:53 am
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- Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:04 pm
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- Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:03 pm
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- Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:02 pm
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They're also really large. Have you ever seen one in person? I wouldn't want to sneak up on a herd or whatever even if I was on a horse.
hey guys I'm really funny please love me
Shut the fuck up you sutpid piece of shit.
are you sutpid or something?
The bar for cleverness is set pretty high with a handle like Matt.
Why is there a bar for cleverness?
Matt, I hope you know that the only reason we're allowing you to keep making such horribly shitty posts is that so after we ban you (which will probably be soon with the rate you act like a great card analyst) we can later look back and
be like "remember that fucking tool Matt?" "who?", "y'know, that guy who jumped kpaca about tires but didn't really a cruelly know how much the average person spent on tires". "oh yeah, that guy was a faggot" "obligatory anti baguy follow up"
don't give a shit if I get banned in this secret subforum or not. I could already tell within the first day of reading through posts in tbgte that I don't necessarily have similarities to the rest of the active members here. Whatever, that's fine. I do believe in common sense and equality though and what is running rampant here is a lexicon and animosity only comparable to a middle school locker room. It's unbelievable how poorly the people who have been posting longer here treat those that haven't.
Well sue us I guess
i heard you guys have no
monies, doesn't seem worth my time
- Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:37 pm
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We definitely proved it was the Tires guy because *gasp* besides pinkfloyd, no one besides him got lectured by the gutter in like 6months. My offline records confirm that.
Funny that they used the worse excuse since we had been the best behaved ever. I think ria and viperesque should have came with a better excuse.
Funny that they used the worse excuse since we had been the best behaved ever. I think ria and viperesque should have came with a better excuse.
- Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:34 pm
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The tires guy was the excuse they found to announce the closure of the gutter the first time (viperesque/rianalnn)
- Like the story was that the gutter harassed a lurker out of the blue and he asked to have is MTGS account deleted
- We asked "hey who was the guy, maybe we can defend ourselves?"
- iridium, "Nope its a secret sorry"
- Then I did research on my offline gutter records and only Matt/m00se had been subject to gutter teachings.
- Then I was like "Hey look at that your guy who never posted and was harassed by the gutter out of the blue" (posts links in Gutter-pegging chamber to Matt telling half the gutter they are a bunch of retards for buying their tires at walmart and stuff)
- Then Sene banned me and went to bed
- Then the Gutter was shut down because lol bunch of faceless trolls.
- Like the story was that the gutter harassed a lurker out of the blue and he asked to have is MTGS account deleted
- We asked "hey who was the guy, maybe we can defend ourselves?"
- iridium, "Nope its a secret sorry"
- Then I did research on my offline gutter records and only Matt/m00se had been subject to gutter teachings.
- Then I was like "Hey look at that your guy who never posted and was harassed by the gutter out of the blue" (posts links in Gutter-pegging chamber to Matt telling half the gutter they are a bunch of retards for buying their tires at walmart and stuff)
- Then Sene banned me and went to bed
- Then the Gutter was shut down because lol bunch of faceless trolls.
- Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:46 am
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