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- Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:33 pm
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- Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:59 pm
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- Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:28 pm
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- Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:26 pm
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- Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:26 pm
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- Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:45 pm
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Just looking at the last votecount, I think there are 1-2 scum in the Manders/Wraith/Void group and the others are among Rednihilist/Zemanjaski/Stardust.
I'm particularly interested in Rednihilist(#961) and will be rereading when I have free time today in this order:
Rednihilist
Manders
Zemanjaski
Stardust
Void
Wraith223
Manders you can totally case Wraith today, since you've been talking about wanting to do it the entire game.
I'm particularly interested in Rednihilist(#961) and will be rereading when I have free time today in this order:
Rednihilist
Manders
Zemanjaski
Stardust
Void
Wraith223
Manders you can totally case Wraith today, since you've been talking about wanting to do it the entire game.
- Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:50 am
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- Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:30 am
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4 days. Why did you say you would post a list if you had no intention of posting a list?Was it long? Several players hadn't even posted since I made my case. I actually didn't even intend to post my list at this time. I was thinking about it, so I made my list up to get a bigger perspective on the game, but I accidentally hit submit and figured I may as well follow up.@Stardust: Why did it take you so long to post the list I asked for? Why do you think Void is scum?
The only reason I unvoted Void was because of this post. I read that as townie
frustration at the time, though I don't really see that now. His recent activity has all been pretty questionable. Void wanted to lynch the Captain for stupid reasons, then naked voted GR, then disappeared as deadline loomed, so... yeah, pretty sure he's scum.
- Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:29 am
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- Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:05 pm
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This post is super fencesitty.I've got home from work pretty much right now (19.40 here) and I'll not be able to properly come up with a case against anyone before the deadline anyway (I mean, I'd have to reread pretty much everything in less than two days, that's out of my league), yet I've still got the feeling that we're lacking the proper direction.
I've reread once more the SugaZ incident and I feel like they'll both got good probabilities of turning town after a lynch, is this really the only way to end this day?
@Stardust: Why did it take you so long to post the list I asked for? Why do you think Void is scum?
@Manders: I like Wraith as town mostly as a meta call. He
always posts inane shit that I tend to skim over, but his mindset isn't bad and I haven't seen anything from him that would make me think otherwise.
I don't like these posts from zem:
I am really angry. You'll notice I have withheld my vote though.
I am surprised at G_R finally calling for a lynch though - he has been pretty passive through the game. Had he raised suspicions about Suga before? Will need to check.
@Zem: Please calrify for me, you are not going to vote for the rest of the day? That's what I getSigh whatever. He fucked the game anyway.
Vote Suga
out of post 865.
- Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:59 pm
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- Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:11 pm
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- Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:54 pm
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I don't like this post, it doesn't feel right.Let me answer your question with another question: Should we no-lynch today?@Stardust and Wraith:
Please explain to me why you both want to have 2 lynches/kills when the Town is already at a major disadvantage because of the two Scum teams.
This is a bad reason and doesn't mesh with his post later.Because I don't want DroppinSuga on my team and have no better leads.Why are you voting DroppinSuga anyway?
well, 6 other town and 4 scum right now is a 40% chance of cm being scum regardless of my reads. removing Wraith and Fate (my only solied townreads right now) increases this to 66%. If I were good at math I would add weights, but I like the odds of cm being scum and I like the fact that it takes away 2 nightkills from the mafia teams.How do figure there is a reasonable chance that Murphy is Scum? 7 Town to 4 Scum would indicate otherwise.
Why idn't you post this when Wraith asked you why you were voting for Suga, instead of dicking around.Nice, thank you for the follow-up. I like that post and have reinstated you as confirmed town. Do I have a read? Yes, I do. My read is that DroppinSuga is scum.Do you have any other read on DroppinSuga besides "he is not in my clique"?
Day 1 he hopped on basically any wagon that came by (Murphy, zemanjaski, freedom, imopen, zemanjaski, freedom), but I read him as town mostly because of the involvement and confidence that I thought he was showing. However, taken together, I think they show a self-consciousness in his reasoning for making those votes.
A bigger factor is his inconsistencies. He goes from "lynch this man" to &
quot;wanting more discussion", then back to bloodthirsty less than 24 hours later. A while later he "hammers" and says that this day has gone on far too long. Didn't he just say he wanted discussion?
We start Day 2 with fishing which moves into screwing up the game setup. Normally I'd call that slightly town leaning except that it felt to me like the posts leading up to that (where Suga hinted at being confirmed
town somehow) were him setting up a fake-claim. There's no townie mindset there, making this the biggest tell against him.
He vote jumps a couple times, then ducks and covers once the votes shift to him. He hasn't made a real post in nearly a week now.
Please post a t/s list.
Please post a t/s list.Are you asking me whether I'd rather no-lynch than lynch someone I know is townie?Let's say enough people vote Void. Then let's say that he flips town. Then CM gets modkilled and flips town as well. Would you say a no-lynch is a bad idea in that case? Why yes, or why not?
Of course I would rather no-lynch. But would I rather no-lynch than lynch a townie who I think is scum? No, I'll lynch that townie. Narrowing our lynch options is extremely beneficial (especially in this game where the scum will start trying to shoot each other once enough townies have died).
Answer is the same for your "if CM flips scum" hypothetical. Scummy townies should be eliminated whenever possible (assuming you actually think they're scummy scum, of course).
pedit: HOLY FUCK STOP POSTING SO I CAN POST, JESUS
- Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:42 pm
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- Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:05 am
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I don't know how I feel about this part of Void's post. Personally, I see it as out of character for Void, who I don't see as someone to get upset over mafia easily. Manders, any thoughts since you've played with void a lot?That being said, I will be leaving this site when this game ends for me. This site is just plain unhealthy.
@Wraith: Have you read any of the mafiascum wiki? Or are you still learning this game with no outside influence?
- Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:05 pm
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@Kaze: You missed my vote for Suga: viewtopic.php?p=183721#p183721
@Everyone Else: More votes for Suga.
@Everyone Else: More votes for Suga.
- Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:10 am
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- Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:19 am
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- Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:43 am
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- Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:39 pm
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- Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:35 pm
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- Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:33 pm
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It's interesting that you keep forgetting to mention CM in your lists even though you have him as:I think scum is fairly active this game and I think they're likely voting each other.
CM's probably 5th or 6th on my scumwatch list.
I read them, but usually I dismiss most of his posts because they are 80% babble, I think he's town though.I assume the others are ignoring you.
- Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:33 pm
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Who is Wraith buddying?Wraith's on my list because of his interactions with the other potential scummers on my list. He's buddying/busing all 3 of them to various degrees.Why is cm not on your list?I'm ok with a Freedom lynch. Willing to put my vote there if that's the group consensus between Freedom, Imopen2, Zeman, and Wraith (that's my order of scuminess).
Why is wraith on your list?
CM was on my list but he's dropped
back down to null with recent posts.
Wait, nope. that was Manders whose recent posts i liked.
Yeah, CM's probably 5th or 6th on my scumwatch list.
I've got Stardust up there too because something's giving me the heebyjeebies about his continual Doc claims and he's started to push fairly hard.
There are only 4 scum, we know this, narrow your list down.
- Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:27 pm
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- Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:22 pm
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- Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:19 pm
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- Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:19 pm
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Reading mostly.May we know what your reads are based on?Too much fucking mafia to catch up on.
wraith is town
fate is town
cm is probscum
zem is probscum
imopen is probscum
freedom is probscum
everyone else is probtown by default.
I'll get a couple more concrete reads tomorrow.
I'm going to move Stardust into my town pile because reasons.
- Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:34 am
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- Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:02 pm
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