Dies to Removal

Jailer is generally town. No reason it couldn't be scum but I've never seen it. Keep in mind that Jailer is a common fake-claim for a scum roleblocker.

Actually, it just occurred to me that Red's ability makes no sense as a town roleblocker anyway. If both scum survive the first Day, that ability is 100% useless at stopping the nightkill since Red's target was notified immediately following Day's end.

Wow. It never occurred to me to think that.......wait......I do the same thing but their ability still goes off?

Thought?

Explains no night kill well enough.

If I had to take a guess, I'd say that rezmo chose not to use his ability last night. Pretty sure I'm the reason there was no nightkill.

rezmo, you should confirm that since if Red flips town you'll likely not get the chance to tell us your targets. Unless you block Dechs tonight, I guess. Whatever, it doesn't matter. Red is scum. We win.

How does it prove that? You think that scum are more likely to have the only day-use ability in the game, or are you thinking someone's going to claim governor or something?

What are you hoping to prove with that question?

Does anyone else have an ability that is submitted during the day like red's (now wraiths)?

Fine, I'll shoot Red. Can we just hang Rez now and end this game?

And that tells you what, exactly?

Let me rephrase that: have you got any way to make me "and my gang" believe your claim without having us hanging you and search your leftovers for your role PM?

how many games do you know of with lmd as scum? red?

I don't think I've ever seen LMD as scum. Red was scum in Fire and Ice (which I referenced in my case against him).

You know what's more powerful than meta? Behavioural tells. Until I see evidence to the contrary, I'm going to assume that scum players act like scum players. Scum players frequently hammer their buddies to gain town cred.

Rez, you are back peddling big time

show me

Using Name calling claim to cover the very
distasteful comment when you are screaming at everyone previously. Your aggression is your own worst enemy this game.

I hope we lynch you or at least DK reveals your role and alignment next day.

show me

If you can't understand me or see what I am talking about; you are not town this game. Also, I think you are trying to pick a fight with any neutral player to gain momentum to lynch the known players to break the town block vote. It is not going yo work and you keep ignoring me. Who did you target last night?

I'll shoot Red if you give me compelling reason to ignore LMD's actions at the end of Day 1 (my strongest evidence against him being town).

The fact that LMD didn't hammer? In my experience, scum frequently hammer their buddies as a last ditch effort to grab town cred (see CM's Day 1 hammer of imopen in DERP mafia). At that point it was clear that Kaze was going down. I think LMD would have hammered if he were scum. I think Red would have hammered if he were scum (which he did).

(Rezmo seems to have some reading difficulties tonight)

what did you mean by this?

Rez, you are back peddling big time

show me

Using Name calling claim to cover the very distasteful comment when you are screaming at everyone previously. Your aggression is your own worst enemy this game.

I hope we lynch you or at least DK reveals your role and alignment next day.

Rez, you are back peddling big time

That sentence from me that you've quoted was pretty much an out-of-context non-sequitur, I don't get your reply.

(Rezmo seems to have some reading difficulties tonight)

Why does Rez want me to undo my my disable of ham? I got the confirmation that ham is disabled and no comment from the mod that I can change it later. I know Rez is aggressive, but
his demands make no sense. I can not see the general direction of where his votes and reads are going.

If you can change it then red could have changed his yesterday. If red could have changed his yesterday then he is a liar and we should lynch him.

What?

Only red can change his ability now. He can target red to confirm his claim I guess.

According to ham's claim, he can choose 1 of 2 abilities. How to you get the idea he can change his ability?

change target, not ability

Not that I am aware of. Red can still steal his ability.

Have a hard time believing the Rez claim as his reads are not making sense. Cool ability though. If the team decides to move on from Rez due to claim; I don't mind looking into LMD instead.

Open minded.

god dammit wraith.. if you can change the target of your disable
today, it means that red could have changed the target of his disable yesterday. and its ridiculous for him to not have changed his target if he could have. (even if he supposedly didnt even try)

This is stupid beyond belief. Even i thought the cop claim was BS, but still saw red as the threat worth investigating. Why don't you ask red if he changed targets then? Also, DK claimed to have his ability disabled over night, and red confirmed it. I stole red's ability and confirmed his ability. There can only be one scum left, thus we are not teaming up to confuse town. Ham is still dangerous to me and I am not changing my target. I can ask the mod to give the game 2 year old a pascifier. Your questions on this are stupid and lack any direction. The reall question we should be asking is who did you target last night?

god damn you are dense. its amazing you werent
able to become a cop in texas.

Excuse me? You know something I don't? Lubbock failed, but Dallas is still good. I really don't appreciate someone talking to me like that.

Mod, please leash Rez

so you can call me a 2 year old but when I say something back im some kind of animal?

You have been yelling like a newb mtgs member.

Yeh, that comment was trying to get me to go nuts against you. I pm'd the mod like you asked. Still waiting for him to respond. Are you going to answer my question or throw another temper tantrum?

(Rezmo seems to have some reading difficulties tonight)

I just want to see if it's possible.

(Rezmo seems to have some reading difficulties tonight)

Yes, I suppose so.

You could have changed your chosen target yesterday. And I'm not trying to aggressively clear myself, just felt like your last post re: me was pretty waffly. Your use of the phrase, "On the same time" leads me to believe that the entire first paragraph is why you think I might be scum. It doesn't make sense and seemed like you were avoiding taking a stance.

Okay, so, you say you're town. What do you want to do today?

I just didn't bother asking Pie if changing my target was legal or not - the role PM states clearly that I need(ed) to choose my target
before twilight, and that's all.
Feel free to read my posts as waffly (what?), but I still don't get why having doubts on your alignment should be equal to labeling you as scum - I just find your results excellent and I can read town motivation behind your reasoning, yet I'd rather avoid trusting you too much. We're still playing mafia here, ain't we?
You're the guy who went from "he's either the craftiest scum ever seen or town, so he must be town" to "nvm, he's scum", right?
Should I feel bad about keeping my eyes on you rather than just going for "blah, he's town"?
It's not like I've never seen you playing the controlling, friendly scum role, you know?

That said, I guess I'd like to say that I'd rather prefer DK to avoid shooting me (duh), and I plan use my newly obtained Changeling role to fetch some infos tonight.

Why does Rez want me to undo my my disable of ham? I got the confirmation that ham is disabled and no comment from the mod that I can change it later. I know Rez is aggressive, but his demands make no sense. I can not see the general direction of where his votes and reads are going.

If you can change it then red could have changed his yesterday. If red could have changed his yesterday then he is a liar and we should lynch him.

What?

Only red can change his ability now. He can target red to confirm his claim I guess.

According to ham's claim, he can choose 1 of 2 abilities. How to you get the idea he can change his ability?

change target, not ability

Not that I am aware of. Red can still steal his ability.

Have a hard time believing the Rez claim as his reads are not making sense. Cool ability though. If the team decides to move on from Rez due to claim; I don't mind looking into LMD instead.

Open minded.

god dammit wraith.. if you can change the target of your disable today, it means that red could have changed the target of his disable yesterday. and its ridiculous for him to not have changed his target if he could have. (even if he supposedly didnt even try)

This is stupid beyond belief. Even i thought the cop claim was BS, but still saw red as the threat worth
investigating. Why don't you ask red if he changed targets then? Also, DK claimed to have his ability disabled over night, and red confirmed it. I stole red's ability and confirmed his ability. There can only be one scum left, thus we are not teaming up to confuse town. Ham is still dangerous to me and I am not changing my target. I can ask the mod to give the game 2 year old a pascifier. Your questions on this are stupid and lack any direction. The reall question we should be asking is who did you target last night?

god damn you are dense. its amazing you werent able to become a cop in texas.

Excuse me? You know something I don't? Lubbock failed, but Dallas is still good. I really don't appreciate someone talking to me like that.

Mod, please leash Rez

Why does Rez want me to undo my my disable of ham? I got the confirmation that ham is disabled and no comment from the mod that I can change it later. I know Rez is aggressive, but his demands make no sense. I can not see the general direction of where his votes and reads are going.

If you can change it then red could have changed his yesterday. If red could have changed his yesterday then he is a liar and we should lynch him.

What?

Only red can change his ability now. He can target red to confirm his
claim I guess.

According to ham's claim, he can choose 1 of 2 abilities. How to you get the idea he can change his ability?

change target, not ability

Not that I am aware of. Red can still steal his ability.

Have a hard time believing the Rez claim as his reads are not making sense. Cool ability though. If the team decides to move on from Rez due to claim; I don't mind looking into LMD instead.

Open minded.

god dammit wraith.. if you can change the target of your disable today, it means that red could have changed the target of his disable yesterday. and its ridiculous for him to not have changed his target if he could have. (even if he supposedly didnt even try)

This is stupid beyond belief. Even i thought the cop claim was BS, but still saw red as the threat worth investigating. Why don't you ask red if he changed targets then? Also, DK claimed to have his ability disabled over night, and red confirmed it. I stole red's
ability and confirmed his ability. There can only be one scum left, thus we are not teaming up to confuse town. Ham is still dangerous to me and I am not changing my target. I can ask the mod to give the game 2 year old a pascifier. Your questions on this are stupid and lack any direction. The reall question we should be asking is who did you target last night?

god damn you are dense. its amazing you werent able to become a cop in texas.

Why does Rez want me to undo my my disable of ham? I got the confirmation that ham is disabled and no comment from the mod that I can change it later. I know Rez is aggressive, but his demands make no sense. I can not see the general direction of where his votes and reads are going.

If you can change it then red could have changed his yesterday. If red could have changed his yesterday then he is a liar and we should lynch him.

What?

Only red can change his ability now. He can target red to confirm his claim I guess.

According to ham's claim, he can choose 1 of 2 abilities. How to you get the idea he can change his ability?

change target,
not ability

Not that I am aware of. Red can still steal his ability.

Have a hard time believing the Rez claim as his reads are not making sense. Cool ability though. If the team decides to move on from Rez due to claim; I don't mind looking into LMD instead.

Open minded.

god dammit wraith.. if you can change the target of your disable today, it means that red could have changed the target of his disable yesterday. and its ridiculous for him to not have changed his target if he could have. (even if he supposedly didnt even try)

This is stupid beyond belief. Even i thought the cop claim was BS, but still saw red as the threat worth investigating. Why don't you ask red if he changed targets then? Also, DK claimed to have his ability disabled over night, and red confirmed it. I stole red's ability and confirmed his ability. There can only be one scum left, thus we are not teaming up to confuse town. Ham is still dangerous to me and I am not
changing my target. I can ask the mod to give the game 2 year old a pascifier. Your questions on this are stupid and lack any direction. The reall question we should be asking is who did you target last night?

Ah, so you're saying you rigged your choices so that Pie must have made you town, because a Commuter scum doesn't even make sense.

Well, that's convenient.

Why does Rez want me to undo my my disable of ham? I got the confirmation that ham is disabled and no comment from the mod
that I can change it later. I know Rez is aggressive, but his demands make no sense. I can not see the general direction of where his votes and reads are going.

If you can change it then red could have changed his yesterday. If red could have changed his yesterday then he is a liar and we should lynch him.

What?

Only red can change his ability now. He can target red to confirm his claim I guess.

According to ham's claim, he can choose 1 of 2 abilities. How to you get the idea he can change his ability?

change target, not ability

Not that I am aware of. Red can still steal his ability.

Have a hard time believing the Rez claim as his reads are not making sense. Cool ability though. If the team decides to move on from Rez due to claim; I don't mind looking into LMD instead.

Open minded.

So, Rez, you're a commuter? I've never heard of that role. Can you describe it for me?

Why does Rez want me to undo my my disable of ham? I got the confirmation that ham is disabled and no comment from the mod that I can change it later. I know Rez is aggressive, but his demands make no sense. I can not see the general direction of where his votes and reads are going.

If you can change it then red could have changed his yesterday. If red could have changed his yesterday then he is a liar and we should lynch him.

What?

Only red can change his ability now. He can target red to confirm his claim I guess.

According to ham's claim, he can choose 1 of 2 abilities. How to you get the idea he can change his ability?

"You win when there are no threats to the town left alive, or nothing can prevent this."

Why does Rez want me to undo my my disable of ham? I got the confirmation that ham is disabled and no comment from the mod that I can change it later. I know Rez is aggressive, but his demands make no sense. I can not see the general direction of where his votes and reads are going.