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by rezombad
Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:04 pm
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Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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Wasn't this wiches first scum game?
by rezombad
Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:43 pm
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Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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The content itself is not at fault, its the inconsistency in his story
by rezombad
Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:31 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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I'm not defending him, I was clarifying the same point that I've been trying to make the last few days, but that you continue to give unsatisfactory answers for.

Where else did I defend Red?
I had a plan.
A scum hunting technique that I found while playing on sally in.. I want to say.. Celestial mafia. In which I caught prophylaxis a similar way. Needless to say I didn't push it hard enough and was the lynch for either that day or the next.
I wanted red to clarify his point, because, while it appeared that he was making the same argument as you, he wasn't.

You wanted me to be scum so badly at this point that you were actively defending red though you may not have realized it.
by rezombad
Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:56 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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'Were in lylo, better hang the cop'
by rezombad
Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:23 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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What did we learn about cops?

vote red
by rezombad
Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:24 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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That being this day
by rezombad
Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:24 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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That was like pulling teeth...
by rezombad
Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:48 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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How about that...
by rezombad
Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:11 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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unvote: no lynch
by rezombad
Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:00 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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:popcorn:
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:00 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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Thank you
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:01 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
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@imopen: Does witchhunts rolecop also reveal the win condition of the copped player?
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:43 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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Facepalm
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:12 pm
Forum: Completed Games
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Fine. Ruiner of things game breaking and unfun.

Can we establish now that this is not meant to clear him as town though?
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:13 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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Bedtime
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:13 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

Doesn't actually need to be limited to the wincon, just claim the entire role
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:43 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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I forgot that if he guesses right and isn't modkilled and imopen reacts like he did with witchhunt's claim, we also lynch him with great prejudice.
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:40 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
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I'm still gonna post things but I'm pretty sure the town wincon hasn't been revealed.

So either:
He claims a town wincon and gets modkilled, you lynch me.
He claims a town wincon and doesn't get modkilled, because imopen grants him a pardon of sorts. He either guessed it correctly or is town. (This one is wifom and puts us right back here, no loss to anyone)
He won't claim, we immediately lynch him, town and I both win.



Also dusty, if you end up hammering me for some reason and don't let this play out im going to both ridicule and deathtunnel you in every game we play together forever.

And also troll your storyboard forum if you ever get one.
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:20 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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Views: 187047

Game solved
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:19 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

Paranoia:
If witch lives and I don't get killed n3, do i kayne geet night killed and is there even a day 4? Do I live through that? Do I get killed n3? Or do I kill scum and guarantee a day4 and maybe get night killed?
My wincon is that I win when an faction achieves their wincon, I don't know their wincons.

'If witch lives and I don't get killed night 3, is there even a day 4? Do I live through that? Or do I guarantee another day, get rid of a scum and.....

Oh holy shit





red, claim your wincon.
Straight up fucking quote it.
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:08 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
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I'll probably hammer in a couple days since "Aquaman" has requested more time. If he's able to display a solid scum motivation in Red and is able to explain his actions Day 3 in the context of his Survivor claim, I would consider changing my vote.
Yeah I'll get to that tomorrow morning, kind of tired after driving all day.

But I did have some time to think;

Witchhunt rolecops me n2. After the tiniest nudge from red d3 he immediately claims, armed with the knowledge that I am the cop and in an attempt to get me to counterclaim and communicate this information to red, includes a botched cop role.

Red then nk's the towniest person (IMO) in an attempt to create some wifom around my cop ability.
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:53 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

I don't know the mafia wincon.

So you're saying, and correct me if I'm wrong:

Rezombad posted a lot.
Rezombad claimed cop.
Naturally he would be night killed.
The fact that he wasn't means that he is scum.

Holy wine in front of me, batman.
Rezombad posted a lot, "hunting for scum", without it being useful for his win condition.
Rezombad actually made a very aggressive case against Stardust, making a lot of noise and going under everyone's radar for no expected value at all, because if neutral rezombad had actually caught scum, he would have negated himself the chance of winning on the spot.
His plan go wrong because rather than supporting him, people turn their heads towards WitchHunt.
Rezombad claims cop, practically asking for a nightkill from the remaining scum, and even jokes about the fact he's going to die overnight.

You're not town - you CLAIMED not being town - and you're not even the Neutral Survivor you claimed to be, so you're scum.
This is not called WIFOM, I think this is called "logic", Aquaman.
That is totally wifom
by rezombad
Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:52 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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I'm not defending him, I was clarifying the same point that I've been trying to make the last few days, but that you continue to give unsatisfactory answers for.

Where else did I defend Red?
I had a plan.
A scum hunting technique that I found while playing on sally in.. I want to say.. Celestial mafia. In which I caught prophylaxis a similar way. Needless to say I didn't push it hard enough and was the lynch for either that day or the next.
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:30 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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I have more to add. But I actually got a day off so I'm spending it with family.

I should be free tonight, where I will do a full game rear on red.

Dusty: it really bothers me that you keep defending red instead of letting him answer so I can get a solid stance from him on something, which he has been consistently lacking on throughout the game.
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:17 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

The fact that he wasn't doesn't mean anything. The fact that he didn't care means he's not a survivor. That's why it means he's scum.
Also, I really don't appreciate you responding to something I had directed at red. Ive posted a few things that you could reply to.
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:10 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

I didn't care about what?
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:55 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
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I don't know the mafia wincon.

So you're saying, and correct me if I'm wrong:

Rezombad posted a lot.
Rezombad claimed cop.
Naturally he would be night killed.
The fact that he wasn't means that he is scum.

Holy wine in front of me, batman.
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:39 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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Views: 187047

I am a survivor, I thought stardust was scum so I wanted to lynch him.

I was doing an analysis, I posted relevant facts. Are you saying more prolific posters are more likely to be night killed, and I should have not posted to avoid being noticed by you and witch?
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:08 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

Paranoia:
If witch lives and I don't get killed n3, do i kayne geet night killed and is there even a day 4? Do I live through that? Do I get killed n3? Or do I kill scum and guarantee a day4 and maybe get night killed?
What do you think of this quote from rezombad, red?
That you could have tried with some actual english if you wanted me to understand it. I'm not a native speaker.
Walk me through it, especially through the "Do I kayne geet NK" part.
Well I typed it on a phone keyboard. I don't remember exactly what I meant to type there.

Solid straw man though
You asked me for an opinion just for the sake of attacking me, then?
Just do your best
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:08 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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You're really grasping at straws.
Post 2 and 3 are actually the same post, but you could add it again if you want, so maybe you can try to really persuade someone that I'm really spending most of my time modgaming.

I really like the fact that you needed to point out that the neutral survivor goes as far as posting three times as much as I do. Nice way to avoid getting NK'ed. You're really the paranoid one.
I'd like to point out the fact that your behaviour makes no sense for the role you claimed, but I suspect you'll just end up saying that we think too high of you, and that "this post just pisses you off".
1. Where am I grasping at straws? I went trough each post and posted my thoughts.
2. Yup, they totally are, sorry about that.
3. I really like your scum slip right there, where; even though you've been saying I'm lying about my claim all day, you call me 'the neutral survivor'.
4. How is a high post count a good way to avoid getting night killed? (If I misinterpreted the statement 'nice way to avoid getting nk'ed' what are you saying is a nice way to avoid getting night killed?)
5. What specifically doesn't make sense about my play?
6. Where have I tried to dismiss an argument against me by saying that 'this post pisses me off'? I was posting my opinions and also did actual analysis. Which in that instance was 'Doesnt add anything, doesn't ask a question, just calls me stupid for copping ham'
Also, even though I said I think stardust thinks too highly of me, I still responded to his questions.
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:54 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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Views: 187047

I think you think too highly of me :D

Im gonna read reds day3 and do a pbpa by 9 tonight.

I'm also gonna reread our interactions and post about them.

I'm a neutral cop.
You're town.
Ham is town.

Pie
Occam's razor
Buzzwords
I stand by my early day3 criticisms for the most part.

Also, I didnt say 'shut up and get hung', I said 'Either vote witch, or do the read you've been talking about doing since day 2, or shut up and get hung.'

dont be out of contexting me.
rezmo, quit out-of-contexting rezmo.
Both of those posts were directed at stardust. You would know that if you were actually following along.
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:46 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

Paranoia:
If witch lives and I don't get killed n3, do i kayne geet night killed and is there even a day 4? Do I live through that? Do I get killed n3? Or do I kill scum and guarantee a day4 and maybe get night killed?
What do you think of this quote from rezombad, red?
That you could have tried with some actual english if you wanted me to understand it. I'm not a native speaker.
Walk me through it, especially through the "Do I kayne geet NK" part.
Well I typed it on a phone keyboard. I don't remember exactly what I meant to type there.

Solid straw man though
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:48 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

Paranoia:
If witch lives and I don't get killed n3, do i kayne geet night killed and is there even a day 4? Do I live through that? Do I get killed n3? Or do I kill scum and guarantee a day4 and maybe get night killed?
What do you think of this quote from rezombad, red?
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:47 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

I think you think too highly of me :D

Im gonna read reds day3 and do a pbpa by 9 tonight.

I'm also gonna reread our interactions and post about them.

I'm a neutral cop.
You're town.
Ham is town.

Pie
Occam's razor
Buzzwords
I stand by my early day3 criticisms for the most part.

Also, I didnt say 'shut up and get hung', I said 'Either vote witch, or do the read you've been talking about doing since day 2, or shut up and get hung.'

dont be out of contexting me.
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:40 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
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No twilight means that he's been killed through a daylight vig - otherwise he would have died at the beginning of the new day like rialnann, I think.
post 1. modgaming. meh

Alive people (no real order, just copypasted from the first post):
Rez, Ham, Stardust, Red, RCW, Witchhunt.

We know that ham is town, and that scum's got a Roleblocker otherwise the bomb thing makes no sense.
Is being bulletproof roleblockable as well?

pedit: Do we really want to know who shot Jamie?
I mean, I don't think having a SK AND scum having an extra dayshot would be balanced, and if they've really got a roleblocker how would the roles interact?
post 2. modagming. meh.

Alive people (no real order, just copypasted from the first post):
Rez, Ham, Stardust, Red, RCW, Witchhunt.

We know that ham is town, and that scum's got a Roleblocker otherwise the bomb thing makes no sense.
Is being bulletproof roleblockable as well?

pedit: Do we really want to know who shot Jamie?
I mean, I don't think having a SK AND scum having an extra dayshot would be balanced, and if they've really got a roleblocker how would the roles interact?
post 3. some more setupgaming. a whole lot of IIOA occuring.

... then a bunch of things happen with me wanting to lynch stardust
... then witchhunt agrees with starust that im scummy, but after rereading the (410 post) thread in 3 minutes decides he doesnt like that idea.

Quick question for you rezmo: do you believe raspy's claim?
post 4. thats a question, lets see if he follows up.

I've misread your case, that question is completely irrelevant.

I can give you a response on why I would have rather preferred if raspy had waited before claiming if you want, but I'd rather prefer to read what Stardust is going to reply about your case.
post 5. that question sure was irrelevant. 'Now let's lurk a while and let you and stardust fight.'

I've misread your case, that question is completely irrelevant.

I can give you a response on why I would have rather preferred if raspy had waited before claiming if you want, but I'd rather prefer to read what Stardust is going to reply about your case.
Why do you want to wait for stardust? He explained why he thought the vig shouldn't claim, you should too.
I wanted to have some content before the claim for two reasons:
- scum knows the alignment, of every player, having them try to force a case (we're in mid/late game now, they can't just try to lurk their way to the next day) that could be easily debunked by a semi-verifiable claim could be difficult to handle for them;
- we also had the choice of no lynching in order to try to break parity, but with doing so right now would be senseless as they'd probably just NK raspy now.
post 6. emphasis added. spooky that he brought up no lynch and rcw nk at the same time completely without provocation.

Stardust, why did you think you'd be a lynch candidate for today? Also, are you saying you think rezombad is scum?
Because you guys talk about lynching me even if I do catch scum. Since I failed so spectacularly Day 2, I'm feeling a bit of pressure to perform today.

rezombad is the main one I'll be looking into when I reread. For sure his actions Day 2 are pinging me, and based on that alone I suspect he's scum. We're down short enough now that POE is pretty powerful with our two mostly-confirmed townies, so the only possibilities from my POV are rezmo, WitchHunt and RedNihilist. I need to remember why I think Red is town, but yeah, I think rezombad is the most likely to be scum of those three. Need to confirm that though.
Stardust, what made you go entirely from RezmoRaspy scum team to Raspy being mostly confirmed town in such short notice?
Vote WitchHunt
post 7.
I added witchhunts post in there too because they were sequential.
Notice there has been no interaction with witch so far, only me and stardust.

With nobody counterclaiming raspy I consider him confirmed town, as I don't expect this setup to be unbalanced to the point of having a neutral aligned sk AND a scumteam that can daykill.

That means that we've got two confirmed town out of 6 alive players, so there are two scum llayers between you, rezmo and Stardust.

Now, I don't really like Stardust's attitude in saying that sooner or later we're going to lynch him because *random rant*, but he's being consistent with other games so whatever.

Rezmo on the other side has taken a strong stance against him since day 1 and he's keeping it up a little too much to be just trying to distance/bus his scum partner, so I guess he's either onto something or he's scum trying to get rid of the most dangerous townfolk.

Either way I'm pretty sure that this is too big to just be some sort of clever, over the top ruse from the two of them as scum partners in order to clear at least one of the two, and since we're in MyLo I assure you I don't want to flip a coin to choose which one of the two I'm willing to hang.

I guess I'll just hang you, since the PoE points you out as scum.
post 8. red is sure that witchhunt is scum because, with no real reasoning, he is sure that either me or stardust are scum but not both, so witchhunt must be scum. k cool, lets see what else happens.

By that PoE you're getting marked as much scum as me. I have the same thoughts dwelling in my head as everyone else at this point, If Ham and Raspy are the most confirmed town, Red, Stardust, or Rezombad should have a pair of scum between the two. I will agree to the point that between Stardust and Rezombad, one of them is town. Between the two, Rezombad's entire case on Stardust feels more like a huge "Hail Mary" to me. A lot of the points he tries to bring up are far too forced in my opinion. End of the game, brings out a huge case that differs from his usual lurky style, tries to point out he doesn't see how it's MYLO, which means by my personal PoE scum team is RezombadRedNihilist. His content puts me off like crazy however as opposed to your standard deduction. He's coming off as desperate to me, so I'll come back to you tomorrow.

Vote: Rezombad
Aside 1: witchhunt calls red scum and then goes ahead and votes me anyway.

Someone with more mafia theory than me: is it possible scum have a JOAT?
What kind of question is this?
Post 9. rcw's post added for posterity. Let's see if he follows up with this...

What kind of question is this?
WitchHunt claimed he was JOAT. WitchHunt is posting scummy things. I'm wondering if WitchHunt could be telling us the truth with his role claim but also be scum alignment.
Please explain me how you can even think that he can be scam while telling the truth. This is just senseless.
Post 10. I don't even see the point of this post. It's like he's trying to belittle rcw into not asking questions about witchhunts role, while at the same time continuing to vote for witchhunt.

*post 11 will not be included because it just fixes a typo. post 12 will be labeled as post 11 and so on until we end day 3*

We needed a cop to tell us that ham was town.
This game is truly stellar.
Post 11. This post just pisses me off. Doesnt add anything, doesn't ask a question, just calls me stupid for copping ham.

Red, I'm pretty sure you and I are the only two who haven't claimed. What do you think of a mass claim at this point?
I guess it's fine by me, but I'm just a Vanilla Townie so you're not really getting much by me.
What about you?
Post 12. Ignoring witchhunt's claim completely, goes ahead and claims vt at the first mention of a mass claim.

Oh damn, that's when you just say, "No, I don't think we'll get much info from that." I was hoping your role might be a piece to a puzzle when I asked that, but I now believe that WitchHunt is caught scum so I will not be claiming until tomorrow.
Can you explain me this, please?
I mean, I don't really care if you claim or not, just explain why you suddenly go from "let's claim!" to "no, this is suddenly complicated!"
Post 13. double language, doesnt care if stardust claims, but wants him to claim. Still completely ignoring witchhunt.

...witchhunt will not be mod killed

-----

Thanks for reading my brief summary.

Day 3 posts:
Rednihilist: 13 (not counting the one spellng correction)
Stardust: 21 ( some of them extremely long)
rez: 30 (not counting corrections and the like)
ham: <10

-----

I know I said I'd do a few more things, so let's see what else an hapen before bed.
by rezombad
Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:51 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

Still going through, read this:
With nobody counterclaiming raspy I consider him confirmed town, as I don't expect this setup to be unbalanced to the point of having a neutral aligned sk AND a scumteam that can daykill.

That means that we've got two confirmed town out of 6 alive players, so there are two scum llayers between you, rezmo and Stardust.

Now, I don't really like Stardust's attitude in saying that sooner or later we're going to lynch him because *random rant*, but he's being consistent with other games so whatever.

Rezmo on the other side has taken a strong stance against him since day 1 and he's keeping it up a little too much to be just trying to distance/bus his scum partner, so I guess he's either onto something or he's scum trying to get rid of the most dangerous townfolk.

Either way I'm pretty sure that this is too big to just be some sort of clever, over the top ruse from the two of them as scum partners in order to clear at least one of the two, and since we're in MyLo I assure you I don't want to flip a coin to choose which one of the two I'm willing to hang.

I guess I'll just hang you, since the PoE points you out as scum.
By that PoE you're getting marked as much scum as me. I have the same thoughts dwelling in my head as everyone else at this point, If Ham and Raspy are the most confirmed town, Red, Stardust, or Rezombad should have a pair of scum between the two. I will agree to the point that between Stardust and Rezombad, one of them is town. Between the two, Rezombad's entire case on Stardust feels more like a huge "Hail Mary" to me. A lot of the points he tries to bring up are far too forced in my opinion. End of the game, brings out a huge case that differs from his usual lurky style, tries to point out he doesn't see how it's MYLO, which means by my personal PoE scum team is RezombadRedNihilist. His content puts me off like crazy however as opposed to your standard deduction. He's coming off as desperate to me, so I'll come back to you tomorrow.

Vote: Rezombad
by rezombad
Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:32 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

I have thoughts on your first paragraph there stardust. But it'll be a few hours till I can put together my post. I'm mostly saying this to remind myself to address that point in particular
by rezombad
Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:53 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

Paranoia:
If witch lives and I don't get killed n3, do i kayne geet night killed and is there even a day 4? Do I live through that? Do I get killed n3? Or do I kill scum and guarantee a day4 and maybe get night killed?
by rezombad
Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:51 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

Poe*
by rezombad
Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:50 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: SOA Mafia: Season One -- Day Four
Replies: 739
Views: 187047

I think you think too highly of me :D

Im gonna read reds day3 and do a pbpa by 9 tonight.

I'm also gonna reread our interactions and post about them.

I'm a neutral cop.
You're town.
Ham is town.

Pie
Occam's razor
Buzzwords

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