A lot of people are benching 1-4 of their Force of Wills. Card is objectively bad and only contextually good against combo or necessary in decks like RUG that just don't like playing spells that cost mana.is legacy really cutting count spells or is lord mcdonalds lying to me/not really knowing what hes talking about?
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- Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:11 am
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- Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:37 pm
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- Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:10 am
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I disagree. I even wrote an article about it.
http://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/05 ... chantress/
http://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/05 ... chantress/
- Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:35 pm
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- Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:20 pm
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[quote="Checkbox » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:23 pm"]I honestly think that the GW Enchantress deck (the one I run) is pretty well positioned in the meta against the "best decks"
I think I'm at least slightly favored against RUG Delver (they can't beat me with their threat-heavy hands. They can land a threat and just counter everything else, but that happens rarely)
Maverick can rarely beat me
Miracles either has infinite counterspells when they need to, or I resolve an Enchantress and drown them in Card advantage
Show and Tell is my best combo match up, though it's still not very good.
Obv storm steamrolls me
Nic-Fit's only win-con against me is Deed, which is hwy I run 1x Karmic Justice at this point.
Junk straight-up loses (unless they run deed, and I don't have Karmic Justice in play)[/
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What about your list makes it good against RUG? Previously Enchantress could beat Canadian Thresh because of Moat, but Delver matchus up favorably against Moat and everything else you do is just shitty.
I think I'm at least slightly favored against RUG Delver (they can't beat me with their threat-heavy hands. They can land a threat and just counter everything else, but that happens rarely)
Maverick can rarely beat me
Miracles either has infinite counterspells when they need to, or I resolve an Enchantress and drown them in Card advantage
Show and Tell is my best combo match up, though it's still not very good.
Obv storm steamrolls me
Nic-Fit's only win-con against me is Deed, which is hwy I run 1x Karmic Justice at this point.
Junk straight-up loses (unless they run deed, and I don't have Karmic Justice in play)[/
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What about your list makes it good against RUG? Previously Enchantress could beat Canadian Thresh because of Moat, but Delver matchus up favorably against Moat and everything else you do is just shitty.
- Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:00 pm
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- Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:52 am
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Well, the basics are... basic. Your most important card is far and away Sensei's Divining Top. Seeing as RUG is the better Brainstorm deck, having Top to combat that is clearly important. The majority of games that you win involve setting up Countertop, so most important thing is to not let those two cards get Spell Pierced/Dazed. No reason to care much if they get Forced though because two for one-ing them is pretty good for you. The longer the game goes they more they'll need to two for one you either with Force or multiple Pierces on the same spell. Youhey phantom, im actually starting to take legacy seriously, and to be honest i find your rug analysis to be one of the smartest i've seen(from your scg article). would you be able to give me some insight on how to handle the deck both in general and also specifically with miracles? If you have already written on this subject i apologize and if you could link me i'd appreciate it.
[deck]4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Brainstorm
1 Portent
3 Spell Pierce
4 Terminus
4 Force of Will
1 Counterspell
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Counterbalance
2 Entreat the Angels
3 Snapcaster Mage
1 Vendilion Clique
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Glacial Fortress
5 Island
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Flooded Strand
3 Plains
3 Tundra
1 Karakas[/deck]
SB: 3 Counterspell
SB: 3 Rest
in Peace
SB: 2 Energy Field
SB: 2 Enlightened Tutor
SB: 1 Humility
SB: 2 Flusterstorm
SB: 2 Disenchant
here is my decklist, i am currently boarded for my stores very warped metagame(excessive nic fit), but rug is creeping back in and i dont want to lose entirely to that deck. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
EDIT: also note that the energy field sideboard is simply a test and unlikely going to be a permanat fixture
have enough answers for all of RUG's threats and the match in my experience has come down to tight play more than anything. Again, don't get Dazed or Pierce when you don't have to.
More than anything you need to play quickly. The matchup is among the grindiest I've seen and not going to time is tough. If you're taking more than 3-4 seconds per top activation or find yourself ever forgetting the order of cards on top of your deck then you're not going to be able to pilot the deck fast enough.
If you have any more specific things you'd like to know then by all means ask, but those are the bare bones.
- Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:09 am
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