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- Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:16 am
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- Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:52 am
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I had to be sketchy because I couldn't explain why I was saying why I was saying in the QT as it required me to claim.
Yeah, I think Tube really underestimated the potential he had for the win at the end, there. I knew Murphy and imopen were both suspicious of me, which was also the reason I had Void killed - he probably would've turned on me at that point, with more ferocity than any of the other living players at that juncture. Oh, I remembered another reason why I wanted Witch killed - because I thought he was some kind of limited-shot Vig variant, and would eventually shoot me.
Honestly, I just sort of stopped trying when all of the mislynches started throwing themselves in front of the Iso Beam of Death and only started thinking about things again (though not paying too close attention) when I realized the SK was on our team. I figured it was Tube mostly based on both Tube's and imopen's reactions to my epiphany.
Also, the only reason I didn't openly discuss the SK as part of our group on the last Day was because of any potential "hidden townie" or "hidden revived player" shenanigans - anything like that would have resulted in a 20-30% smaller chance of my team winning with a full outing because it would have basically made the game into a Kingmaker.
Advice to you, Tube: Try not to shoot yourself in the foot when you're scum in future games. Also, as scum, you have to be very, very malleable to the state of the game. Even the best-laid plans can run afoul because of a stray Vig mucking about with WIFOM, or an unknown Governor stopping a lynch after you claim scum. Be careful (though not TOO careful), but be ruthless and adaptive.
Yeah, I think Tube really underestimated the potential he had for the win at the end, there. I knew Murphy and imopen were both suspicious of me, which was also the reason I had Void killed - he probably would've turned on me at that point, with more ferocity than any of the other living players at that juncture. Oh, I remembered another reason why I wanted Witch killed - because I thought he was some kind of limited-shot Vig variant, and would eventually shoot me.
Honestly, I just sort of stopped trying when all of the mislynches started throwing themselves in front of the Iso Beam of Death and only started thinking about things again (though not paying too close attention) when I realized the SK was on our team. I figured it was Tube mostly based on both Tube's and imopen's reactions to my epiphany.
Also, the only reason I didn't openly discuss the SK as part of our group on the last Day was because of any potential "hidden townie" or "hidden revived player" shenanigans - anything like that would have resulted in a 20-30% smaller chance of my team winning with a full outing because it would have basically made the game into a Kingmaker.
Advice to you, Tube: Try not to shoot yourself in the foot when you're scum in future games. Also, as scum, you have to be very, very malleable to the state of the game. Even the best-laid plans can run afoul because of a stray Vig mucking about with WIFOM, or an unknown Governor stopping a lynch after you claim scum. Be careful (though not TOO careful), but be ruthless and adaptive.
- Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:28 am
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- Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:25 pm
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Stardust: "Iso has already told me that there's no way he's changing, but that's only because he didn't read the opening post of the mafia QT where it says performing the kill doesn't prevent the use of other actions. He thinks he's got the whole team covered since imopen is performing the kill and Tube is blocked."
No, I just figured the SK didn't have his own factional kill since there had been no additional kill, and was confident enough in TubeSK to feel that we were covered.
No, I just figured the SK didn't have his own factional kill since there had been no additional kill, and was confident enough in TubeSK to feel that we were covered.
- Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:22 pm
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- Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:40 pm
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- Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:39 pm
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- Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:46 pm
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- Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:45 pm
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- Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:16 am
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- Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:15 am
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Theros Pantheon Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Victory
where my bitches at?
- Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:57 am
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- Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:32 pm
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- Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:07 pm
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- Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:59 pm
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- Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:46 pm
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- Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:32 pm
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- Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:32 pm
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- Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:31 am
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imopen has had some wacky hammers. Let's go for him.We lynch imopen or tubehunter tomorrow, I didn't think red was scum
Just making sure we're cool.I *sincerely* think I'm a subpar player, I'm haven't got anything against your person.Dude, I'm not attacking you as a player. It's a game - if you don't want to be lynched, play better.
- Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:20 am
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- Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:41 am
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- Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:31 am
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- Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:59 am
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- Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:59 am
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Oh, sorry, let me just quit my fucking job so I can answer your questions at any given time. Get over yourself.
So, firstly, you should know full well that I'm not ganking you for one single post. To suggest such is asinine and shows that you're not intent on figuring out the game, but rather, that you just want to discredit your wagon and misrep those that are on it.
Secondly, you're trying to appeal to my experience and ego, and that's almost always a scum tactic. Since you're sitting around at L-1, why don't you, I dunno, claim? Instead of potentially risking us losing information regarding your role, leaving the scum available to falseclaim at endgame, why aren't you explaining to us why we should believe you're town, who's scum, and why?
Thirdly, since you agree with me that there are only two scum, why would they quickhammer when there's still a chance that there's a role that could stop them from
performing a Nightkill successfully? Or, y'know, throw away the game if they think they could convince the town not to lynch their buddy (you)? Your assertion only holds up IF you're town, and I haven't seen any indicator that you might be that I can recall.
FOURTHLY, why are you fishing for MY role?
Basically, you're not approaching any of this from a town mindset - you're set on survival, obfuscation, and deprivation of information. And I'm set on your death.
I'll look back through the game and dredge up something resembling a case - not that it's needed, since we only need one more vote to lynch you.
So, firstly, you should know full well that I'm not ganking you for one single post. To suggest such is asinine and shows that you're not intent on figuring out the game, but rather, that you just want to discredit your wagon and misrep those that are on it.
Secondly, you're trying to appeal to my experience and ego, and that's almost always a scum tactic. Since you're sitting around at L-1, why don't you, I dunno, claim? Instead of potentially risking us losing information regarding your role, leaving the scum available to falseclaim at endgame, why aren't you explaining to us why we should believe you're town, who's scum, and why?
Thirdly, since you agree with me that there are only two scum, why would they quickhammer when there's still a chance that there's a role that could stop them from
performing a Nightkill successfully? Or, y'know, throw away the game if they think they could convince the town not to lynch their buddy (you)? Your assertion only holds up IF you're town, and I haven't seen any indicator that you might be that I can recall.
FOURTHLY, why are you fishing for MY role?
Basically, you're not approaching any of this from a town mindset - you're set on survival, obfuscation, and deprivation of information. And I'm set on your death.
I'll look back through the game and dredge up something resembling a case - not that it's needed, since we only need one more vote to lynch you.
- Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:52 pm
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- Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:50 pm
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- Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:00 pm
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- Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:47 am
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- Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:30 am
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- Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:41 pm
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- Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:32 pm
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- Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:49 am
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- Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:13 pm
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- Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:50 am
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- Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:23 am
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- Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:22 am
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r u srswhy voting Pie? Lurkiness?
R U SRS.what are people seeing that I'm not with Pie? I isolated his posts and he OMGUS'd me and was pretty lurky, but nothing that I could see put it over the top.
I mean, Wraith already claimed, so.I'm back fully.
Not close to a computer now, so when i get to my house after school i'll see what i can do for a catch up post.
I like the pie wagon, but no one else vote him for now, he is already
L-2.
This isn't the only thing we're looking at, you know. Wraith's behavior was beyond awful yesterDay. Additionally, momentum swung from Wraith on to Suga, who flipped town, which almost always indicates that the wagon prior was a wagon on scum. Once imopen provides his analysis, I'll be performing my own to see how it stacks up and then we'll go from there.Ah, that's right, Wraith went over the deep end flavor gaming. Then I took my vote off him because I thought he was being genuine. And I defended the rolestopper/roleblocker mixup in his claim(s).
The biggest hole that people came up with for what I said about the Mafia Wiki definition is that Wraith never looked it up. To which I say:
He ended up looking stuff up. So are we so certain just based on this?As has been explained to you multiple times in the game, a day cop doesn't have the ability to kill another player. And
unlike everyone else, you don't seem to realize it was a joke referring to another game.
You're fucking dense.
I just looked it up more indepth. Damn it. Why did you say that anyway?
I almost want to lynch you instead, now.I'm not willing to be the hammer on this one. I thought Wraith was noob, wanna-do-it-my-own-way, flavor gaming, frustrated town. And Pie hasn't given me a reason to change that read.
Almost.
I think you need to re-read Day 1.Pretty much exactly what I said in my post above yours. I think that Wraith's meta make his actions before replacement seem like frustrated noob town that wanted to do things his own way. And I don't think Pie has done quite enough to either confirm or deny that read.Sorry, Zem. I meant to say rcw there.
@RCW:
Why should we not be voting Pie?
I'm not
thoroughly convinced of it, but I also believe it well enough to not vote him. If you think he's clearly the best scum target, then go ahead and vote him. I'm not going to try to talk you out of it anymore. I already posted my analysis of his first wagon and my breakdown of his PR claims alongside the Mafia Wiki definition. And further up this page I quoted him saying he actually HAS done some research, which nullifies arguments against that.
If that's not enough for anybody else to pull their votes, that's fine. But it also means that if he flips town we're analyzing the hell out of this wagon because there will likely be 2-3 scum on it.
- Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:05 pm
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- Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:32 pm
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When did you actually refuse to provide content? I don't remember that.And as a top scum-spect, you really think I'd practically refuse to offer content? Are you guys high?
I'm down, though I'd eventually like to lynch ham even if Suga is somehow town.I'm on some heavy painkillers the next few days so I will most likely be Yanni posting
Seriously though, we are lynching pie is droppin flips town and ham if he flips scum
So, you plan to analyze some wagons? In that case, tell me who the scum on Suga's wagon are if he flips town and then if he flips scum.This game is dragging. It seems that most people want to lynch suga but no one is willing to hammer. I'll do it.
Vote: Suga
Let's see that flip so we can finally analyze some wagons
- Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:52 am
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I suppose.We should chat after the game Iso, I have much to learn (3rd game here). I'll address your comments to me in my next post, but for vision clarity, I will now extend my "willing to lynch pile" to:
- droppinSuga
- hamfactorial
- pie
In that order. Is there a reason not to lynch Suga first? If he flips scum, then ham is pretty much locked in as scum (he already looks very likely scum anyway). Thoughts?
In regards to being afraid to mislynch on Day 1, I'd say that's a pretty new-player mentality. It's probably a town point in your favor, actually. Addressing the concern in question, it's not necessarily a bad thing to mislynch on Day 1 because you can almost always unearth scum from Day 1 mislynch wagons. The way the votes flow is always a great way to determine who's scum based on flips. Push your reads with conviction! People say that short Day 1s are bad but I've been in games where Day 1 lasted over 1000 posts and it made me want to punch everyone in the game in the dick for not being more decisive. It's good for the health of the game and the town to make educated decisions quickly.
Glad you're open-minded about learning Mafiathings, though.
Yep.I'm ready to hammer Suga when everyone is ready. He is Scum guaranteed. As Iso mentioned, I had this Role in a previous game and my ability was a Day ability for balancing reasons. A Lie Detector, that can act at Night,
can then lie about any information that is given to him giving there faction a huge advantage.
InflatablePie is transparent as hell. We lynch him Tomorrow.
Tell me why.As soon as I'm flipped town, someone PLEASE look into Zem.
I am pretty obviously town, and quite sexy, to boot.Note to self: I don't like the way you went all fanboyish on Iso.
- Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:06 am
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