Dies to Removal

hoeiberg

I really don't know if we are aggro or midrange, some games i play nothing but removal for 3/4 turns and then slam some big threat (Big phoenix, Exava or dragon) and beat my opponent to death with that. This seems very midrange, but other games i go Jester, into small phoenix into Jester + ashley wh...

hoeiberg

The changes between decklists now seem to be focused on a few questions: 1) "Do we want 1-drops?" 2) "Do we want shocks?" 3) " Flame-Wreathed Phoenix or Lifebane Zombie main?" 4) "Do we want a whip, and if so, main or side?" I'd like to get people's answers o...

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Lands 24 7 Mountain 5 Swamp 4 Blood Crypt 4 Temple of Malice 2 Rakdos Guildgate 2 Mutavault Creatures 19 3 Ash Zealot 4 Spike Jester 4 Chandra's Phoenix 3 Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch 3 Flame-Wreathed Phoenix 2 Stormbreath Dragon Spells 17 4 Lightning Strike 4 Magma Jet 3 Shock 4 Dreadbore 2 Ultimate ...

hoeiberg

Both are good, you pick...

Thanks for the breakdown, I'm gonna run with Zealot (Cackler and I are not the best of friends at the moment and i like being greedy

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Also I'll add the whip if i can find one

hoeiberg

So, going to FNM tonight. Unknown meta (haven't been there for ages), what should i bring: Cacklers, Satyrs or Zealots?

hoeiberg

Pretty much what Raida said. Satyr isn't walled by Caryatid, can take out something ugly in a pinch and isn't totally dead late game.

hoeiberg

[deck=(Almost) MDU's Rakdos Beats]Lands 24 8 Mountain 6 Swamp 4 Blood Crypt 4 Temple of Malice 2 Rakdos Guildgate Creatures 19 3 Firedrinker Satyr 4 Spike Jester 4 Chandra's Phoenix 3 Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch 2 Flame-Wreathed Phoenix 3 Stormbreath Dragon Spells 17 4 Lightning Strike 4 Magma Jet 3 ...

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Tested an older version of this brew yesterday: [deck] Creatures: 4x Rakdos Cackler 4x Spike Jester 4x Chandra's Phoenix 3x Exava, Rakdos Blood WItch 2x Stormbreath Dragon 1x Mogis, God of Slaughter Lands: 4x Blood Crypt 4x Temple of Malice 2x Rakdos Guild Gate 2x Mutavault 9x Mountain 3x Swamp Spel...

hoeiberg

I think toil/trouble is better in decks that have a lower curve and are more aggressive, aka ours.

Really hurts to hit it with seer though...

hoeiberg

The boarding plan is similar in what I do with my Boros Aggro build, I don't really want to post it or pm it though since I need something to encourage people to watch my videos .

That's fair. You have any vidoes with this build yet? I'm really looking forward to seeing it in action

hoeiberg

Any thoughts on the 6 Plains total for the 3 CttR? 6 white sources gives you just under 60% chance of seeing at least 1 in your first 8 cards, 75% to see it in your first 12 (Realistically the game won't go much longer than that with your list, or you probably just loose). However with only 3 chain...

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[deck=Another Br Aggro List :)]Lands 24 4 Mountain 8 Swamp 4 Blood Crypt 4 Temple Of Malice 2 Rakdos Guildgate 2 Mutavault Creatures 18 4 Rakdos Cackler 4 Spike Jester 4 Herald of Torment 3 Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch 3 Stormbreath Dragon Spells 18 4 Lightning Strike 4 Magma Jet 2 Bile Blight 4 Thoug...

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Here is the Pre-BnG list I was testing [deck=MDU's Nothing Cute Br Aggro]Lands 24 9 Mountain 5 Swamp 4 Blood Crypt 4 Rakdos Guildgate 2 Mutavault Creatures 18 4 Rakdos Cackler 4 Spike Jester 4 Chandra's Phoenix 3 Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch 3 Stormbreath Dragon Planeswalkers 2 2 Chandra, Pyromaster S...

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Here is the deck I'm currently toying with: [deck] CREATURES(27): 4x Firedrinker Satyr 4x Rakdos Cackler 4x Spike Jester 4x Ash Zealot 4x Chandra's Phoenix 3x Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch 1x Mogis, God of Slaughter 3x Stormbreath Dragon CHANDRA(2): 2x Chandra, Pyromaster SPELLS(6): 2x Dreadbore 4x Ligh...

hoeiberg

Given the new black "infest", do we need to rethink our strategy or can we just power through it with big late game?

hoeiberg

But this card and the rat should be best friends, infinite cheap cards to discard

hoeiberg

[deck=Rakdos Aggro] Creatures 4 Chandra's Phoenix 2 Firedrinker Satyr 3 Pack Rat 4 Rakdos Cackler 4 Young Pyromancer 3 Exava, Rakdos Bloodwitch Planeswalkers 2 Chandra, Pyromaster Instants 4 Magma Jet 4 Lightning Strike 2 Shock 3 Ultimate Price Sorceries 2 Dreadbore Lands 4 Blood Crypt 3 Mutavault ...

hoeiberg

Craterhoof Behemoth? Seems good with so many creatures. Avenger of Zendikar? Because why not? Maybe stuff like Overwhelming Stampede, for really smashing things. Idk, just suggestions.

hoeiberg

Ok, time for a noob question: How good is Pack Rat really in an aggro deck? I see the whole "omfg, fixes topdecks and gets huge in late game" argument, but how often is this relevant? He seems like a terrible drop "on curve" and not worth much on his own later in the game. I see ...

hoeiberg

How is anything that has Mutavault, Chandra and SBD budget? You guys are all going bigger and bigger, are you sure that is the way to go?

hoeiberg

What MDU said. Decide on a main color and keep the other one a splash. With this deck you need [mana]b[/mana] on turn 2 for all your creatures while also needing [mana]r[/mana][mana]r[/mana] on turn 3. That will fail, not every time, but it will happen. I'd say either run black main and get rid of t...

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Not too risky, in most MUs you probably have more creatures in the grave than they do. I do however see the dog as more of an SB card as it can really screw you over if your midrange opponent gets all his value creatures out of the grave.

hoeiberg

Too bad. Would have been interesting, oh well, I guess i will just keep trying to refine MattT's various lists and wait for more people to hopefully swich to black come Born of the Gods.

hoeiberg

I´d like some more info on that decks final place.

Second that, and the full deck list. Where would one look for something like that?

hoeiberg

Could this work in RB? Erebos seems really good in burn due to the not gaining life thing and drawing cards when you run out of gas. And Rakdos' Return could really do a number on some of the slower decks. Furthermore Dreadbore succeeds in taking out troublesome walkers as well as creatures.

hoeiberg

@MattT How is you list working out so far? I startet testing my own Rb list today. Similar to yours but with: -2 Mutavault (Don't have them yet but obviously the should be in there) -4 Ash Zealot, -1 Chandra and -1 Doomblade, +4 Spike Jester, +1 Dreadbore, +1 Tymaret, +1 YP$ and +1 Mountain. It test...

hoeiberg

You think Ashley is better that spike jester?

hoeiberg

Thanks. My local meta is super heavy on B and B/W mid-range and Esper control, so while I realize that that the Walter White build is stronger over all i think maybe a Rakdos build could be better vs my meta. I'll start with what you have and get brewing

hoeiberg

@LaZerBurn: What does your list look like atm? And how well has it been doing? I really want to build R/b myself and i am kind of torn between two different plans. One plan being the no bullshit aggro plan with haste creatures and very fast dmg. The other being a more control-ish plan, using the ste...

hoeiberg

I feel like Turn//Burn should be in most of the "Dies to:" since it will kill almost anything.

hoeiberg

So what you are saying is just burn the voice, and then get rid of the token on the first turn where you have nothing better to do with you mana?

hoeiberg

Love this deck, recently started testing the old version (the one with Chandra and Chimera) and I seem to have come to many of the same conclusions as you guys, namely feeling short on counters and being burdened by the walkers (although i suspect Zareck would rock vs control, haven't testet that MU...

hoeiberg

Hi there. I have been running this list for the last few weeks before rotation. [deck] 4 Rakdos Cackler 4 Foundry Street Denizen 4 Spike Jester 4 Ash Zealot 4 Chandra's Phoenix 4 Mindsparker 3 Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch 3 Pillar of Flame 4 Searing Spear 3 Dreadbore 23 Lands [/deck] Or at least very c...

hoeiberg

Hi there Thanks for a great primer, I'm really interested in this deck type and I think you have gone a long way towards making it good with this primer. I do have two questions though. I'm rather new to deck building (only ever build one other constructed deck) so if my questions are stupid please ...

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