Dies to Removal

poppa_f

I'm switching from pyroskies to big boros for the LGS win a box tournament tomorrow. I'll miss YP$, but I think Big Boros is better positioned for the local meta (R/x devotion, G/x devotion, GW). One tweak I'm considering is adding a 3rd Chandra either main or SB. With 25 lands I should be able to c...

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You still have the problem of a 4pt life swing every turn, but does stop him from attacking if he's blinked, so that's something. I've noticed flash decks are starting to become more popular on MODO, so added bonus that it helps screw those guys up as well. Could be relevant for some race matchups a...

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on a related note, "Fated Conflagration" is going to be pretty sweet tech for dealing with Ghost Daddy once Born of the Gods starts (1RRR instant that deals 5 creature damage and scrys 2. Blows up Elspeth and Jace too)

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Bloody hell, it's like a greatest hits of cards I don't like playing against! Ghost Daddy, whip, supreme verdict, imposing sovereign, desecration demon, detention sphere.

I've not seen anyone at my LSG play it, sods law I run in to it on Sunday though

poppa_f

What is the esper aggro deck that people keep mentioning, does anyone have a sample decklist anywhere? (I've never come across it in the wild)

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MDU- I'm playing in a paper tournament on Sunday. I was planning on playing the pyroskies deck, as I've had pretty solid results with it on MODO (averaging about 66% win rate). I saw you're playing Big Boros now. Is that deck performing better for you? I'm in two minds now whether to play PyroSkies ...

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* painfully re-assembles and glues back together the 4 torn up Xathrid Necromancers in the bin *

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How is Xathrid Necromancer useless to the sweeper? His effect still triggers on death.

it's -2/-2 until end of turn, so don't all the tokens die too, or is it only creatures on the battlefield when it resolves that are affected?

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I really like that strategy, as means half their deck are bricks post board. That was one of my main successful strategies with Z's original Pyrowhite list: game 1 mow them down with creatures. They assume you are a mainly AiR creature deck. Game 2 side out all your weenie creatures for burn and rec...

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Val- what's your sideboarding plan? Do you not find yourself a few answers short for master of waves in Mono-U?

(in the PyroWhite list 4 chained never feels like enough and I'd kill for a 5th or even 6th answer to MoW to draw in to)

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So, aggro just took a huge hit and MBD is now way better against us. It does not look great. Unless they have a killer aggro card in the wings. Going bigger is looking very attractive now. Yeah I've been thinking the same thing, although another option could be to play Rakdos colours and run though...

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All I can say is yes please:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachme ... 1389675749

Limited bomb. Not sure if standard playable, then again I'd have said the same about Selfie legionnaire, which is in my current 75.

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Dammit, Owen Turtenwald is telling people to maindeck 2x Pharika's Cure in MBD:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles ... n-indywin/

Pharika's Cure is the single best black card in Standard for fighting fast aggro decks

Hopefully no-one listens to him

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I quite like the 1RRR instant burn 5 + scry 2. Deals with end of your turn worm token, Polukranos, BBoV and any planeswalker in the format. Advent of the Worm is such a beating at the moment, especially if turn 4 they flash it in and turn 5 slap a boon satyr or unflinching courage on it.

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Born of the gods spoilers have started

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My problem with Ash is that I feel like she's better in the matchups where I already feel ahead (control, small aggro), but skyknight is better in some of the tighter matchups. I find the evasion can be critical against decks like G/x, R/w devotion, MBD, where you can end up board stalled against th...

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I'd like to here ya'll's thoughts on how well YP$ has been performing recently - we're in almost the same place as the Big Boros list, it's getting to the point that the only difference is -Shock -YP, +Ash, lands, Dragons. YP$ has been great for me on MODO and paper magic. Against decks without muc...

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Why Angelic Edict ? LB is many times better then Angelic Edict . So both of these cards are mainly to deal with master of waves. In the MUD matchup, the post-board games generally go long, as I've sided out my 1 drop creatures and sided in removal. My game plan is to keep their devotion low with re...

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So played in my LGS standard tournament last night with MDUs PyroSkies list (with a tweaked sideboard): [deck]Creature (18) 4x Chandra's Phoenix 3x Firedrinker Satyr 4x Rakdos Cackler 2x Skyknight Legionnaire 2x Stormbreath Dragon 3x Young Pyromancer Enchantment (4) 3x Chained to the Rocks 1x Legion...

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Also don't forget to sideboard out after each match (I know this sounds obvious, but I've forgotten myself and had opponents do it as well). Also make sure to check the slip if your opponent drops. The last tournament I played in, my opponent dropped, but ticked my name by accident, so I was almost ...

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I'm playing in my LGS standard tonight. Have been testing MDUs PyroSkies build a fair bit on MODO and had a pretty good win rate, so going to run with that, with a slightly tweaked sideboard for my expectations of the meta. My current 75: [deck]Creature (18) 4x Chandra's Phoenix 3x Firedrinker Satyr...

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Yeah I can see the logic in that. I'm always keen to play the dragon against monowhite as it's such a beating for them, but game could be over by the time you curve out to that fifth land. Also find myself top-decking against aggro if I've 1-4-1'd my burn on their creatures, in which case the phoeni...

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I would not ever side out Phoenix. He is the main win con when we are the control deck. In most cases I'd agree, but he's playing zero 1-drops already main, so what do you cut instead of the phoenixes to bring in your extra removal? Against White Weenie my game plan is to kill all their creatures a...

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RE sideboarding plan: Aggro/WW: I'd side out the phoenix (you are very much the control player here and should win pretty easily if you resolve a chandra or dragon) Dega: I'd side out the reckoners if he is playing LBZ and BBoV U/x: definitely side in mizzium (removal is key here as you don't want t...

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sods law if you remove the one drops then you will play only U/w control for the next 4 matches

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the demon touched me inappropriately Khaospawn

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Opponent resolves it, if I have a chained to the rocks then I can deal with it, otherwise I have to start losing creatures or suck up 6 damage a turn. I've had situations where I have enough tokens and small creatures to keep it tapped until I win, but if it resolves on to a blank board (fairly comm...

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Update on Angelic Edict: played about 6 matches with it in the sideboard now and I'm not 100% convinced. I'm yet to use it on an enchantment or a creature where the exile effect would be relevant. It does get stuck in your hand sometimes as well, as 5 lands can take a while to hit. On the plus side:...

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For the matchups you'd bring it in against, does it hit the reasons you lost those games and, if so, is it in enough time to still not lose to those reasons? I've not tested with it, but I'd say yes in some cases. I've found Desecration Demon hard to deal with in some matchups, so happy to have ano...

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what do you guys think about Angelic Edict as sideboard tech for PyroWhite? 4W Sorcery: Exile target creature or enchantment Thinking it would be a nice SB option against MUD (Thassa, MoW), MBD (Desecration Demon) and G/x (remove any fatty). May also be a nice switcheroo against G/B decks that side ...

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Done!

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http://www.channelfireball.com/articles ... -standard/

Nice article! How comes you've dropped Ashley since the last list? Is it a metagame decision, or do you think that having more dragons / chained to the rocks is just flat-out better for all match-ups?

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for the mana stuck games, did you mulligan down at all, and what hands did you end up keeping?

Sorry to hear you got so ill during the iq

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Yeah I don't like his list much. 4 chained and 4 AOTG main is bad for control matchups and you could end up with some pretty bad draws against aggro too with all those tap lands. No Mutavaults either. I don't think it's necessarily bad that it's featured, I think the author was just trying to show b...

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...in other news, Pyro White getting bigged up on TGC player: http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=11533

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OK so I finally got my first games in with my Pyro White list, playing at my local game in London (just moved to a new venue which is way bigger, but also way colder than the old one): [deck]Creature (20) 4x Ash Zealot 4x Chandra's Phoenix 4x Firedrinker Satyr 4x Rakdos Cackler 1x Stormbreath Dragon...

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Consider Toil // Trouble for the Rakdos version, guy wrote a good article about it on Channel Fireball recently:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles ... -standard/

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Deck-List: [deck=Zemanjaski 's PyroWhite - MDU Tweaked]Lands 23 11 Mountain 4 Mutavault 4 Sacred Foundry 4 Temple of Triumph Creatures 20 4 Ash Zealot 4 Chandra’s Phoenix 4 Firedrinker Satyr 4 Rakdos Cackler 3 Young Pyromancer 1 Pyrewild Shaman Instants 11 4 Lightning Strike 4 Magma Jet 3 Shock Oth...

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A pyrored list very similar to the one published in channel fireball came 3rd in my local 2k standard tournament over the weekend: http://www.manaleak.com/mtguk/2013/11/dark-sphere-standard-2k-tournament-and-legacy-640-tournament-top8-deck-lists/ Interestingly he mainboards 4 Skullcrack, 4 Boros cha...

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Boros charm is probably the best SB card against U/W, you can survive a Verdict, burn for 4, even the double strike may be relevant if you can pump a satyr or combo it with a pump spell

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