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Spellheart Chimaera only resolved once, and it ate a doom blade. No idea how it actually performs. I think it mostly eats doom blades, so that's about right. Flames of the Firebrand for weenies? And anger of course for necromancer/atheros decks but I am not sure it's practical to have both that and...

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One Ram is just a little annoying.. I mean a 0/5 is only going to block YP or a token. but we have to either 2 for 1 it, chain it, or banish it. And it's only CMC2 so only chains tempo-favorable. Ignoring it means you have to go from ~7 burn spells to 10. So that's about 2 more turns assuming we don...

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Titan's Strength is bad in the same way Chained to the Rocks is bad (because it's sometimes dead or can lead to a 2-for-1). Or young pyromancer with no shock/jet back up is bad. It's actually slightly less hassle to lava spike them off of a token or pheonix than it is to get a YP out with a backup. ...

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Turn // burn very frustrating. I always needed it and could often not cast it. Rapid is mostly to null spot removal, but also for the occasional ghost dad.

zenbitz

nyx fleece ram sucks. Especially with Jace.

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My first test was with the Thaumaturge (and curse of the swine with X=infinity). I found that he was like a worse goblin electromancer except in rare instances. I have almost abandoned this list. Hour of Need is very amusing but not a real card. Turn // Burn is waaaay to slow in a deck that wants to...

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I, too find chandra really hard to play vs. control. 4 mana for "deal 1 damage and target opponent discards one removal spell" is pretty blah. Maybe I should save her until 6-7 mana so I have a chance of getting something off the +0, I don't see Titan's Strength being THAT MUCH WORSE than ...

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If your only using Prophetic Flamespeaker vs creature decks, why is it better then Boros Reckoner or Mizzium Mortars in a format where the best midrange/aggro decks run Sylvan Caryatid, Boros Reckoner Courser of Kruphix, Frostburn weird, NVS basically anything which isn't weenies which is ALREADY a...

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Chained still seems the best demon defense. Tempo is still tempo. I have a buddy here who swears by threatens in Red decks.... maybe beating them with their own demon is worthwhile.
I absolutely want to play burning earth if the meta shifts to 22 basics each (which would also mean less monu-blue)

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yes but those BW humans and AIR don't run anything with toughness higher than 3... Or if they did it would be some kind of big bomb that's pro white or pro sorcery speed anyway. What I was trying to say was NOT that BL is a bad card for burn (perhaps even Main deckable) but that it might not be good...

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I think there will be an AIR heroic deck as well, if for no other reason it's actually faster than BW humans, and doesn't care about atheros. I honestly have no idea how those decks do against Control/MBD/MUD which still dominate the meta. Banishing light doesn't seem ideal against decks running all...

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It was a thought experiment, sorry.

zenbitz

If I ran 2 Searing Blood main and had 2 flames in the sideboard, I would bring in the flames vs. Control (including mono black). I hate staring at SB thinking "come on, play some little dude... please..."

zenbitz

Could you take a look at my Counterburn list in the other thread?

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Wipeout has it correct. On the subject of who is the beatdown in Burn vs. MBD. It's interesting that my snap answer was that we were the beat down, but I counted threats and wrote the opposite. They are running 12 threats (+4 gary) and we are running 8. Of course we are controlling their clock by m...

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On the hilarious flip side, I ran into a Bx deck that just happened to be running Illness in the ranks in his board, and played one turn 1. I still came within a topdecked burn spell of winning game 2.

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We are the often* the control deck. They have to play threats or we just burn their face instead. Also assemble the legion is the grindiesty control finisher ever. We must bring in 1x chains 2x assemble and probably any chandras we have in the board. We would like skullcrack against Gary - because w...

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N of 1 but I just beat an on curve obzedat by turning it into a sphinx, then dragging out the game until I could kill it.

Not the most efficient win ever.

zenbitz

I guess you could take out skullcrack instead.

zenbitz

Related to other thread: [deck] VAT 4 Young Pyromancer 4 Chandra's Phoenix 3 Rapid Hybridization 3 Hour of Need 3 Turn // Burn 1 AEtherling Counter 2 Izzet Charm 2 Counterflux 2 Syncopate Burn 4 Magma Jet 4 Lightning Strike 3 Flames of the Firebrand 2 Chandra, Pyromaster landz 4 Temple of Triumph 4 ...

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[strike]I think the issue with anger / no anger is that 1 for 1'ing CMC 1 spells with CMC 2 spells is bad for the old tempo. Most aggro decks this cycle of standard were not running 12-16 1 drops or even the "Optimal Aggro" 10 1 drops. As long as they are casting 2 drops you are fine. If t...

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I made this kind of for fun... but it actually wins in testing. I posted it in the "Competative: Control" forum (under izzet control, but it's neither competitive or really control nor does any one read that thread). [deck] Value Generators 4 Battlefield Thaumaturge 4 Young Pyromancer Toke...

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Is Ral Zarek better than 1 more each of Jace and Chandra? Or maybe Keranos or something? Honest question.

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1-2 mutavaults isn't awful. I won't go back to 0. I forgot about electrickery. That is exactly what my Izzet-Pyro build needs. Against what decks? Even post rotation, that strikes me as a narrow card. There are a few aggro decks running 12-16 1-drops, plus several 1T 2 drops. It is very hard to 1-f...

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1-2 mutavaults isn't awful. I won't go back to 0.
I forgot about electrickery. That is exactly what my Izzet-Pyro build needs.

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Are we really going to play 8 O-ring equivalents? We just drop Chains right? (doesn't hit non-creatures, gets hit by peak eruption). Or maybe 3-2 split?

I have some concerns on how we can beat decks with 12-16 2-power 1 drops without Anger of the Gods. There is FotFB into Chandra I suppose.

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I must admit I am enthralled with playing Burning Earth against Mana Confluence + 16 duals. I presume that if someone was to play BE they would have to keep it around 8 non basics, which means very light splashing.

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I am just spitballing here but if the meta shifts more to black aggro and WW then obviously firedancer comes back. Or anger of the gods. I actually think BW/atheros would be very annoying to play against without Anger.

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I kinda like this one... but I expect it's not great. Value Generators 4 battlefield thaumaturge 4 young pyromancer Anti-Removals 4 rapid hybridization 4 hour of need 1 curse of the swine 4 turn // burn 4 magma jet 2 izzet charm 2 lightning strike 4 dissolve 3 bident of thassa Lands 4 mana confluenc...

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I have been playing more with pyromancer and it does have it's weaknesses... For your deck... I kind of like Phoenix over reckoner.... But I guess you do have a lil' infinite combo going with the charms.

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speaking of control... I just lost a G1 to UW when I attacked with pyromancer into celestial flare. Two turns later, Jace ultimates.

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MDU's Young Dancer's Vs Esper Control

Wasn't game 1 here played kinda bad by MDU? Maybe you cannot avoid getting YP devoured but walks Charm into dissolve, and misses and EoT LS when opp is tapped (and holding 2 dissolves it turns out). Then top decks FTW.

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. My hardest mu is mono green devotion with nylea.

YP is quite bad against trample... as I found out against minotaurs. That's a surprisingly 50-50 matchup (although with Firedancers/BO/Peak Eruption it's heavily in burn's favor)

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I admit to not rolling over control like some people on this thread. It really comes down to skilled play and dodging counters. Being patient seems to be the key. There is some point, maybe around 7 life, where they get desperate and you should always win (assuming you crack the rev) by just running...

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I was waiting to get to overload mana when opponent landed a Sire of Insanity! I was totally surprised to run into what I presume was a singleton of this card. I responded by casting Shock and Magma Jet and having to ditch the mortars. Why didn't you just kill the Sire with your shock+jet? Obviousl...

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Any thoughts on this post JOU spoilers? It seems like either Ur-devo (+/- pyromancer?) or Ru-counterburn seem OK, but not sure they are tier 2. Full control would probably splash white. There are a couple of black cards I want (RReturn, Dreadbore, Thoughtseize, Toil//Trouble) ... but not sure it doe...

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1x Anger seems awful. 3xAnger I guess is a playstyle thing... (I will probably try in Ru)

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This is the deck im rocking right now. I have placed 3-1 in the three daily events and 0-4-0 in four 8 mans. [deck] sideboard 1 chandra, pyromaster 2 chained to the rocks 3 peak eruption 3 mizzium mortars 2 assemble the legion 3 blind obedience 1 wear // tear[/deck] So far with this deck the only m...

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I had another strategy based question... it's really probably a better "play better magic question" but it absolutely has application to RW burn vs. control. Let's say I have a 2 power beater or mutavault and my UWx opponent has Azorious Charm or Last Breath mana open. Under what situation...

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I just want to throw a shout out to Zem's CFB article here: http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/playing-with-fire-boros-burn-updates-and-analysis/ Not to blow smoke up your butt but this is a very coherent and well thought out piece. An no mention of "I feel this deck is well positioned in ...

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