Dies to Removal

Sorry gentlemen, upon rereading my post I noticed that I had confused the timing on D2 / Red joining my chat.

There were 3 minutes between start of D2 and me getting notification that Col K was dead and Red was in the chat. He wasn't already in the chat when D2 started, there was a sight delay.

I suppose it's possible that Red could have targeted io2/Col K and been given access to chat in the 3 minutes after D2 started, but I doubt it.

Heading back into the conference room, you all look around to see how many have returned for Day 2. A quick head count shows there to be 6; Col. Khaddafi hasn't arrived yet. Suddenly his picture is shown on the projector screen with a giant red X drawn over his face.

Col. Khaddafi has been killed overnight. He was Jim Gilmore, Town Investigative Committee member

It is now Day 2. With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

This is the start of D2. I'm located in the Pacific time zone, and the game opened on D2 at 9:33 a.m.

Over in the committee QT, at 9:36 a.m. Pacific time, I was told that:
1. RedNihilist was now part of my committee and could chat with me anytime
2. Col. Khadaffi has been killed.

Strange thing to see this happen! Coincidence? I vowed to learn more. I immediately asked Red what he was doing in my QT, and he informed me that he can copy the ability of a dead player. Suspecting the worst, I asked why he had targeted Col K, and he told me that his role included "Investigative" and that sounded more useful than "Party Spy for Trump".

He followed this explanation by posting his role PM. He claimed to be Jeb Bush, Town Party Poser. His active ability is that, during Day or Night, he may PM Manders the name of one dead player. He will then inherit their ability until the next Day begins. He will not inherit their Last Resort power.

His Last Resort ability was such that once per game, he may PM Manders the name of a dead player. He will then inherit their ability for the rest of the game, but his posting will be limited to one entry with content per day (not capitalized). He may post smilies, vote, and quote other players, but cannot post words more than once a day. I assume this is a real life time limit (24 hours), and not an in-game Day restriction, because Manders likes to capitalize Day and Night on purpose.

I could understand his choice, but there was something wrong with his story; He entered my chat before Manders told anyone that Col K was dead!

I asked him for clarification about which ability he had inherited from Col K. He responded that he was successfully posing as imopen2, not Col K, and he had mixed them up when answering my questions. Further, he said that he can communicate with me via the QT, that's all. I asked him this early on purpose, because my colleagues imopen2, Col K and I all have an active power which I described earlier in this thread. However, since Manders informed us that we had identical role PMs, none of us discussed our power in the thread. Thus, Red was not able to know what our Active Power was upon re-reading. If his Active Power truly works as described, why would he not be given the investigative ability as well?

The second thing that made me uneasy about his claim was the timing of his Active Power. He claims that he can use it Day or Night, but the ability that he inherits will wear off at the start of the next Day. Going into N1, the only two dead players were imopen2 and NightArcher. If he had chosen imopen2 as a N1 target, the inherited ability would have expired immediately upon the start of D2. I would have received the notification during the 3-4 day gap between the end of D1 and the end of N1.

But no, I received notification several minutes before D2 started, indicating that Red had targeted somebody on D2 (otherwise the ability would have already worn off). But, as I described above, he was in my QT several minutes before the official start of D2. He did not balk at me asking why he targeted Col K, only clarifying later. Perhaps he had targeted Col K with a mafia NK, and did not realize I was trying to be tricky into later.

The third thing I find troubling is the wording of his role PM. "Town Party Poser" seems contradictory. Why would a Town player be a Party Poser? The role strikes me as an independent role, especially since he can use his ability during the Day and again at Night. If he's a Town player, his role is extremely powerful. A 3-mason team plus a role like this would suggest that there is an extremely powerful mafia team somewhere.

Or maybe he's scum!

Don't die on us, Dusty!

I'm in the mood to shake up this election cycle.

I'm publicly stating my intent to reveal the identity of the mysterious committee guest, along with his role PM, and irregularities I've found in his statements to me regarding Col K and imopen2's deaths.

He may take this opportunity to come clean and tell us here, on the record, what he's up to!

I suspect that he's the dark horse independent, and I want him to coordinate with town in the open instead of sneaking into backrooms.

He has 24 hours to respond to this post or risk having his dirty secrets revealed for everyone to see. Do the right thing! God bless America!

Ok, now that we've heard from everyone, here's what happened to imopen2.

As part of an investigation committee, we have an active power. Each night, and only when we are all alive, we may agree and submit a name and learn the alignment of that player.

We also had a last resort power that gave us the ability to learn the identity of one of Trump's supporters, once per game, but only when all of us were alive. The catch is that to pay for this information, one of us would die at beginning of the next night, chosen at random.

Manders didn't specify when the last resort ability could be used, so I asked if it could be used in the daytime. She said yes, but the sacrifice would happen at close of day.

Going into N1, io2 and I had painted a big target on our heads with our blatant D1 claim. I suggested that we use the last resort power. Since we had a third member (Col K), even if scum killed one of us and the other died to the last resort power, the third member could reveal himself on D2 and explain the power and be confirmed town.

Manders told us NightArcher was scum, so I laid it on thick and pushed hard for him to get lynched. It was a success, and we were happy to trade one of us for a guaranteed dead scum.

When scum killed Col K overnight and not me, I immediately watched out for anyone who accused me of being scum or killing io2 despite delivering town a scum lynch on D1. Red and Stardust both are leaning on me about this.

Fight me, Red

You see my concern. 3 neighbours with 1 as scum is the classic three-person neighbourhood. ham claims they were masons, and imopen certainly acted as though they were, so I'm not sure.

I hadn't considered that possibility, but I see the issue from your POV.

If the new member wishes to out himself and protect me from doubt, he may scroll back in the quicktopic and see that Manders confirmed that the original committee members had identical role PMs. See messages #1 and #5!

If I was a scum plant on the committee, Manders wouldn't have made that statement.

I know exactly why io2 died, and I'm happy to share the reasons in a little bit.

I woke this morning to a surprise addition to our Committee quicktopic: a new member! Unfortunately, this new member entered at the same time the beloved Col K died. I don't yet know if these facts are related.

If anyone else has anything they'd like to share about Col K, please speak up. You don't have to say what you know, I just need some help figuring out of this mysterious guest is representing himself honestly.

3 scum would be a pretty difficult game for town unless we have a lot of power roles in addition to the masons.

Interesting thought about a traitor in the Investigation Committee. Which of us do you think that might be?

Interesting, Stardust.

I am town, and I trust Manders to have balanced the game appropriately. I see where you're going with the D2 control of the game by the masons, though.

Assuming your non-mason D1/N1 kill, how many votes would be required for a D2 lynch with 7 alive?

I'd also vote Red, and I'm curious if anyone here has anything interesting to report about him and anybody that he may have targeted last night.

I'm being vague in the interest of national security, of course.

We were masons with daychat. We all had identical Role PMs, confirmed by Manders, so we were able to coordinate immediately.

I don't have another scum target for us yet, but I'm working on it.

You don't want to cross me, Red. You aren't even American, and aren't eligible for president. Why are you still in the race?

I would like to extend my condolences to the families of my friends and committee partners, Jim Gilmore and Lindsey Graham. Imopen2 and I tried to conceal the identity of our third committee member as a means of protection from scum, but sadly Col K was found out. Perhaps we weren't thorough enough in our efforts.

I will carry the torch of investigation and help to deliver justice to honor their memory! God bless them.

Thanks Manders you're totes fabs

Calm down GR, we can lynch Pedro after we take care of NA.

Indeed. Common sense conservatism like Col K espouses above is what the people want!

I've been as transparent as possible from the start, delivering confirmed scum to the town for justice at great personal risk.

To fall back into petty in-fighting would be beneath you, gentlemen. We're supposed to be better than the Democrats!

NA was last active here on site this morning (April 19), his inactivity in this thread is on purpose and not the result of being busy.

Not a townie mindset.

OK, thanks Manders.

I hold some minor hope that rez is town. Waiting around for a NA modkilk could result in a dead townie, offsetting the value of lynching scum D1 which rarely happens IME.

I'm not generically liking your attitude in this game, and I'm really hating all the trash talk you're putting up in this last page.

If I was scum and NA was my teammate the last thing I'd want would be to have everyone's focus on me, as we both know he's doomed one way or the other AND he'd flip scum; you can refuge into WIFOM, but your whole argument is far-fetched.

Now be a good guy and answer me: if he's going to get killed anyway, where does your urgency to kill him come from?
Most of the people here is non-active anyway so it's not like you're risking to have another wagon start before the end of the day.

I've been role playing this game and it's been a lot of fun. I'll break character a bit so you know it's all for lulz. I follow the GOP election closely so I know a lot about the candidates. Politics is show-business for ugly people, so it's my time to shine!

My urgency comes from frustration. When you see my role PM you'll understand why I want the obvious scum choice dead with no risk of wagon derails (some derails have already happened with Stardust and GR jumping off).

It's a valid question. More dead bodies could be a good thing, and NA is likely to get modkilled.

You're right. If NA gets modkilled and the game remains in D1, I would be pleased.

@Manders, does the game progress normally after a deadline or move to N1?

I'm not here to be nice, I'm here to find scum and preserve democracy so the good people of Town can flourish.

I found scum (it's NA) now I need help from you to make sure he's dead. Why the resistance?

I think you might be scum to with the way you're stalling for time.

Why are you so eager to keep him alive?

Not only is he scum, he's anti-American!

NightArcher hasn't posted since the 13th. He knows he's dead, and has clammed up to avoid revealing his teammates.

Come on Pedro/Red, hammer your scum buddy! It will give you extra town cred, I promise.

Your refusal to lynch scum is noted for the record.

Who wants to put NA out of his misery? You'll be a true American hero.

You've made a wise choice

I have a proven history of investigating and rooting out corruption at the highest levels. I'm certain that my colleague io2 will back up my assertions.

Stardust, I urge you to reconsider your pro-NA position. When the bodies start piling up, you won't want your reputation linked to his.

Don't worry about that, Dusty, NA is scum so he needs to die today.

Join us on the right side of history! Unless you're scum too?

NightArcher:

Why did you get so defensive about claiming? Do you have something to hide from town? You shouldn't be afraid to give us information, like io2 and I have done.

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GR:

How did I get caught?

If it wasn't for that lovers thing I'd be interpreting your post as a slip. O.o

Lulz, you wrote it after quoting me directly, hence my confusion.

GR:

How did I get caught?

Why Pedro over NA?

Hi Manders, I'm currently voting for Stardust.

I'd still suspect that one or both of them is scum, certainly.

If you didn't say that you were scum, I would have put you in the null pile. I have trouble figuring you out, but I don't know you to outright lie for lulz.

I don't know who your buddy is, but I took you at your word when you said you were scum.