Dies to Removal

I managed to get to 30 qps before crash.

What are you playing Ham?

@MDU

Where do you find prices for those promos? Noone want to give even 30 for natural order.

Nice@ beating Brad Nelson

Kait give me 4 more rupees. Up to 25. Quite good for 2 8 mans played (cant play daily todays as whole day at university and need to wake up on 6 tommorow ...

Btw tried and might found new love - I grinded 40 qps last season with GW agro in block constructed, I mastered this deck. Now it is only better. Beat 4 mono black (3 control 1 agro), 1 UW control and RW burn.

Still need to refine deck, will post it in agressive decks for comments.

@MDU

I just sell my btg boosters I won, and If needed 1 theros booster (I know lost a lot of value but not unloading all means still sit around 200)

Need to play some more this weekend, not time before and I lost lot last time i played. Thats why I thought about changing decks as burn is quite bad matchup for rb devo. Might try last rb agro list.

So where can I find this BW midrange deck? Noone posted it yet, and all i find is mono black splash baron.

Any opinion on Jeff Hooglands BUG?

http://themeadery.org/blogs/348/375/a-g ... -a-time-fo

how am i beating pod, twin and affinity

Pod:

Put small creature on turn 1 or 2 and tempo them out while they take shitload of damage.

Twin:

Get threat on board before they can respond, on a play they only have bolt to kill delver/nacatl. With pressure on board they need to do sth first.

Affinity:

Access to good sb card for this matchup is a key. Stuff like Stony Silence / Ancient Grudge. Game 1 12 spor removal, some 1 mana counters might do a trick. Also every creature we control blocks quite well if needed.

can i race storm and living end

While normal Zoo most of the time cant, with remand / spell pierce/ spell snare / mana leak it is possible. Get creature on turn 1-2 and then play counters and burns.

am i weaker than a traditional zoo deck and being different for the sake of it

Yeah much
different. They play more creatures, and now want to get bigger, however they loose teribly to combo decks as they are turn to slow and they cant distrupt them. We might be turn slower but can interract with them.

does my deck scoop to blood moon

Thats why I added 3 basic lands. Almost every deck scoops to blood moon if they dont fetch around it. When they know about it they dont.

then tweak the deck accordingly or ditch it

I agree. However almost every lists starts with many 4 offs.

I didnt post any list yet.

Still unrefined, too many 4 offs that means list still not good. Currently:

4 delvers
4 goyfs
4 nacatls
2 snapcasters

4 bolts
4 helix
4 path

4 leak
4 remand
2 spell pierce
2 spell snare

2 mutagenic growth

20 lands: 11 fetches, island, plains, forest, 1 of each shock land

Noticed problems:

Flood too much, basics arent good -> didnt want to loose from blood moon, I can get those 3 basics with fetchlands, however I dont want to get them. However even tribal zoo have access to those so i might be a must. Plus Path to exile have to give me value.
Flood so much as most of the time I dont need more than 3-4 lands. However 6 shocks + 3 basics + 11 fetches might go down t o6 shocks+3 basics + 9-10 fetches. (Especially with my 2nd problem)

No sorcery makes goyf worse. Need to get some amount of serum visions and gitaxian probes (also allows to play less lands as they
short out deck).

Snapcaster As a 2 of seems good. Dont want to draw too any of them, however making use of used spells seems too good to pass. Probably better than Clique.

Mutagenic growth was good every time I draw it, however might not wat to get more than 1 each game. Might get down to 1 since probably getting deck manipulation.

Wouldnt hate split of removal in md. Both Helix/Path/Bolt are good, however can see upside in stuff like electorlyze.

Love getting multiple high blowout oneoffs that destroys oponent. stuff like electrolyze, shadow of doubt are such a cards, that 1 is good but more most of the time isnt. Another upside in cycling themselves (Trickbind doesnt do so, however squelch does which might be a better card if we consider them)

Iterested in this BW control.

Which one do you mean? Black Merchant splashing for white? Full black / white with cat king (ALL HAIL TO THE CAT KING) and archangel of thune / elspeth / obzedat?

Post a list or it didnt happen?

Btw tested Modern Wild Delver (Delver + Goyf + Nacatl) and beat UWR, melira pod, affinity and twin quite easily.

I will probably have to stuck with RB devotion. UW Devotion wasnt as good as thought (btw _Soku_ - one that was first to invent white splash to mono u said UW matchup is horrible, even with white splash).

Bad thing is the fact there is shitload of burn.

Anyone could look into rb devo and leave some notes to upgrade deck vs burn?

21 Rupies.
Hard to earn points now.

I ended up buying the S.G - I figured I'll play Zoo in Modern in the future anyways.

Sg stands for stomping ground?

@zem

I dont understand why Sam Pardee makes video about uw devo then...

Had bad streak today/yesterdawith rb devo.

2-0 split 8man
1-1 8man
1-1 8man
0-1 8 man
0-1 8 man

Know I broke even but not going forward is not what I want. Meta seems bad for rb devo now.

Looking forward to play something like Uw devo now? Michael Jacob played it and deck lookd really good, heard he had good results vs uw controll and black devo.

Can I assume uw beats burn zem?

I've sent messages to people to acquire decks, we'll be ok, even if we don't play our preferences.

What do you mean by that?

As in my signature.

"It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction"

Couse it was an old deck that played stuff like bant charm with different meta and with no delver. It can be used as a base thou.

Dont really know if knight of the reliquary is any good. Same with hierarch plus there is no green su zenith anymore. There was also no snapcaste/scavenging ooze/voice.

I have horrible (or genius) idea.

What about Tempo / Zoo deck based on creatures:

Delver of Secrets
Wild Nacatl
Snapcaster Mage
Tarmogoyf
possible distruptive 3 if needed (clique?)

For spells run bolts, helix, tribal flames (already in 4 colors but might not be needed), remands, spell pierces and spell snares?

I have been working on such a deck but am having issues. The mana base is fragile and it just doesn't seem powerful enough to fight opposing strategies. I can provide an experimental list if we want to look into it further but it is pretty rough.

Would
be pleased if you can post it.

Talked today to my local modern comu ity - around 15 people play like 3 times a week, and they aaid it might have potential. Liked the idea of nacatl, goyd, delver and some amount of aupport creatures in snap and / or clique, dont like tribal flames as it is not needed in heir opinion and make mana worse.

Supportive spells in serum visions, mutagenic growth and gitaxian probe, possible other protection spell for 1 mana, cheap soft counters, remands, burn package in bolt, helix and pillar of flame/flame slash/magma spray, point removal in path. Ditruption in trickbind and shadow of doubth.

Zem would you suggest burn as a good meta choice?

Ham you play mdu brew?

I have horrible (or genius) idea.

What about Tempo / Zoo deck based on creatures:

Delver of Secrets
Wild Nacatl
Snapcaster Mage
Tarmogoyf
possible distruptive 3 if needed (clique?)

For spells run bolts, helix, tribal flames (already in 4 colors but might not be needed), remands, spell pierces and spell snares?

Ok lost first game to UWR control. Both games after I emptied his hand with return he topdecked revelations into sweaper.

Nah Kait I play Rb devotion.

Btw Ham I havent lost a single match to UW control since I beat you. In real life and on modo.

Sweet! We've never played though, did you mean Kait?

Yeah, I meant Kait sry about misscomunication. Was tired when posted this ;/

http://i.imgur.com/52k63uj.png

This deck is sweet.

What do you think about this decklist? Guy seems to be 7-1-1 in gp now.

Is this better than UWR Twin?

http://i.imgur.com/52k63uj.png

This deck is sweet.

Btw Ham I havent lost a single match to UW control since I beat you. In real life and on modo.

2-1 in mocs after loosing to elspeth / reaper / whip / 2 time to feed deck.

@MisterMet

Would be awsome if you can lend me them! How can I get you on mtgo?

My buddy sold Goyfs so I cant play tarmo - twin ;/

For non - titan scapeshift I only need 4 scapeshift = 65 tixes.

For titan scapeshift I need 4 scapeshift and 4 titans = 165 tixes.

For UWR control that won PT I need hreads of Disloyalty = 30 tixes

For UR tempo - twin I need 1 Kiki - Jiki, 4 Splinter Twin, 1 Threads of Disloyalty = 100 tixes

For UWR twin I need 3 kiki-jiki, 4 Splinter Twin = 100 tixes

What to do?

I watched that DE you crushed - Whip and FoM is insane @_@ its like Gary but on drugs - I'll go with Twins, though you sitting on about 200+ booster now
right? you can buy almost any Modern deck you like right now (except Jund...)

Yeah however I invested some money on some speculation + bought some boosters for flashback drafts for speculation. Currently on ~200 packs but minus 200 tixes as I had to borrow some tixes for my speculation / boosters for flashback etc (realisticly when selling boosters for 3,4-3,5 will have around 500 tixes + speculation)

Yeah twin is awsome, but cant go for goyf twin. I could buy goyfs for myself, but dunno if now is good moment for it, plus spending all my resources doesnt seem awsome.

Can also play Melira Pod as my buddy have most of it (similar investment to other decks) so basicly:

UWR Control (~30 - ~100)
UR Tempo twin (100)
UWR Twin (100)
Melira Pod (~50)
UR Faeries (http://themeadery.org/blogs/348/361/mod ... r-fae-upda ~8 tixes for 2nd sword of light and shadow
Grixis Twin(http://www.starcitygames.com/article/ 2 ... -Twin.html) - much more $$ (dont have blossoms in addition) but this list is amazing.

Cant play any goyf or liliana or mox opal deck basicly.

My buddy sold Goyfs so I cant play tarmo - twin ;/

For non - titan scapeshift I only need 4 scapeshift = 65 tixes.

For titan scapeshift I need 4 scapeshift and 4 titans = 165 tixes.

For UWR control that won PT I need hreads of Disloyalty = 30 tixes

For UR tempo - twin I need 1 Kiki - Jiki, 4 Splinter Twin, 1 Threads of Disloyalty = 100 tixes

For UWR twin I need 3 kiki-jiki, 4 Splinter Twin = 100 tixes

What to do?

Why Scapeshift would be bad LP?

18 qps after 4-0 ing daily tonight.

Noticed cant play white prison as i forgot to buy runed halo pre - pro tour. Now they cost 5 each, so I think I can get better deck for similar amount of cash.

Is scapeshift any good? Both Prime-Shift and Command Shift.

Plus is this deck better or worse than titan-shift?
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/10061

Love combo/ramp strategies (notice rb devo is also combo/ramp?)

They stole my QPs ;/ joined event, it went down, qps lost.

Hope to get them back before tomorrow.

Really? I was playing not much this season, however hit almost everything so my rupiee count is 15

Btw LP I am in house today so attack me for this elspeth!

I think I have hammers, mortars and revoke and on possibility of elspeth (need to ask friend if he wants to use ir for uw control - dunno how many they play but probably only 2 ao will have it 80%)

Dont joke about some decks until you try it,.

Anyone interested in turn 2 kill / possible turn 1 kill deck in modern? Btw turn 3 is quite stable.

I have 15QPs after winning 2 8 mans this evening. LED IS MINE HAHAHA (probably ~100 tixes)

Deck posted in devo red. IF any one wants to help will be glad

That list did 4-0 or 3-1 in daily:

4 Glacial Fortress
4 Hallowed Fountain
2 Island
2 Mystic Gate
3 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
5 Plains
4 Temple of Enlightenment
1 Blind Obedience
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Detention Sphere
4 Ghostly Prison
3 Idyllic Tutor
4 Leyline of Sanctity
2 Runed Halo
2 Sigil of the Empty Throne
2 Sphinx's Revelation
4 Suppression Field
4 Supreme Verdict
2 White Sun's Zenith

2 Greater Auramancy
2 Nevermore
3 Rest in Peace
1 Sphere of Safety
3 Stony Silence
4 Timely Reinforcements

Like WSZ, revelations as mana sinks, idyllic tutor for tutorin (probably would play more important 1 ofs in md such as 1 rest in peace as it is quite good in md. Detention sphere is solid upgrade over o-ring, dunno about chalice but looks powerful.

As for fated conflagration it is another way to kill obzedat or reaper of the wild, hits also dragons and polukranoses, slot over mortars.

Won another 8 man so 11 QPS, luckyly destroyed burn with good draw. Noticed key is to throw guys under burn, just play as many BTE as you can turn 2 even without followup, and try to blow their hand with return. Be as fast as possible so I only played 2 doom blades - sometimes 1 or 2 mortars. However whip might be needed.

My current sb: 1 dreadbore, 2 doomblade, 1 ultimate price, 1 fated conflagration, 2 dark betrayals, 2 thoughtseize, 1 slaughter games, 1 chandra, 1 erebos, 1 hammer, 1 rakdos return, 1 sire of insanity.

Need to cut 1 card for whip as imo it is needed, however dont know what to cut. probably 1 removal spell, question is which one?

Still faced too much hexproof and burn with rb devo. Need sb card for those matchups. Whip as all my creatures are massive? I cant find of any other red / black card ...

Won 8 man facing 2* naya hexproof. Still won this with RB Devotion. I raced 6/6 flying trampling witchstalker and won the race with ~20 power on board. Face it.

Minimum 10 qps from 6 events, possibility of 11. Still breaked even as I 1-1 my 6th event.

Probably found my deck in modern. UW Prison here I come (need to buy leylnes only)