Dies to Removal

Manders, WhitcHunt got NightKilled :lol: He's town, he was Karn Dammit, that explains that. He WAS around. Why didn't he say anything, dammit...

Jamie cleared rez, I think he should hold onto the emergency PW. Remind me how...

That raises an interesting point. If we just blindly planeswalk, there's the risk we will end up in a non-friendly town plane by the time we reach a lynch, having spent all our credits. So we should ASAP decide who is cleared as town in our game and he should hold its planeswalk as an Ace card in case something bad happens. This will be Pedrobear for now on...

Town PedroBear Hammy Rezombad GR Scumbag RedNihilist Mcdonalds rcwraspy WitchHunt Scum GR's got good evidence of a scum slip because I'm pretty sure he was around for that and said nothing...

Ok here's said list. Wait, Stardust , why isn't WitchHunt on this list? Alive 1. Mcdonalds 2. hamfactorial 3. RedNihilist 4. rezombad 5. rcwraspy 6. Pedrobear (replacing TubeHunter) 7. Col. Khaddafi 8. ( G_R ) I'll list them in order shortly...

I hope you're right. Why do you believe it was a 1-shot deal? I was under the impression that planeswalking more than once would be a very powerful thing, given that e spent the entire effing day one at it and it was kind of a big deal, except, see the answer to the post bellow. There's no reason to believe it was a one shot unless it was yours. I could use my secondary walk once per day. What the hell are you talking about? You had extra walks? Then why the fuck did people lynch imopen2 for? Did I miss where you said something about it before people decided that the only player who hadn't planeswalked was definitely scum because of it, even before he had a chance to prove everyone wrong? We are so gonna lose this game. :no: GR please go look this over. There's something there. WitchHunt is high on my suspicious people list...

Ham and Scumbag have already walked this Day, so whenever the private walk boots us from here, it wasn't them. Too bad you guys were more concerned with voting than walking. Sheesh. Hammy go to Bromance chat, bro. :love...

Planeswalk http://wizards.com//mtg/images/daily/stf/stf54_sanctum_of_serra.jpg You are now on Serra's Realm. When you planeswalk here, if the player who planeswalked is town, that player has a 50% chance of being publically confirmed town. The angels sing as Pedrobear is haloed by holy light! Pedrobear is confirmed town. I missed this. Awesome...

Thank fuck!! You guys, seriously? I actually did say what rez said I did. Slow down and analyze. TownScum lists should be pouring in right now, and they're not. The one TS list posted was awful. If he's actually Town, he needs to up his game a lot. My top pics for scum are Red McDonals Wraspy. The reasons are out there. REREAD. I'll try to post more in depth while I can...

I'm playing exactly how I always have. He had no excuse for not claiming...

Thank God someone got in there...

Who said anything about losing the game? You fucked us for Today. Which you continue to do by refusing to claim. Poor play, regardless of alignment. Expect discussion when the game is over...

Goddamn Jamie. If you're Town, you fucked us by not claiming. Unvote Vote: Jamie...

And I'm a girl. Not sure how you didn't know that.....

info dump I guess I thought manders was trying to bus tubehunter because of the "Am i seriously going to have to explain why tubehunter is scum?" when its like... everyone knows that already dude. He has a 35% chance of being scum without tells because of the planeswalk he did. And then there are the tells on top of that. Dechs was also pushing on tubehunter but manders said how much he hated the play of the guy he replaced but went on doing the same thing. But then RCW went ahead and did an iso on tubehunter before manders so I don't know. I was keeping an eye on people that pushed a tubehunter vote anyway. rcw is more towny than manders and those are the only 2 I would suspect since everyone else that voted tube is just hopping on a bandwagon that is pretty reasonable. scum/town list confirmed town: Jamie rcw rianalnn null: LMD ham rez rednihilist Col.Kadafi witchhunt imopen2 GR manders almost surely scum: tubehutner In the interest of the deadline I will vote for someone that is scum instead of pressing for anything else so unvote vote tubehunter Why the fuck didn't you claim...

Besides, you're not voting for him, either...

Oh wtf. http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150501T09&p0=210&msg=Planechase+Mafia+-+Day+1+Deadline...

[quote=" rianalnn » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:21 pm "]We have 12 hours are you serious manders.[/quotehttp://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150501T09&p0=210&msg=Planechase+Mafia+-+Day+1+Deadline We have 14 hours. I'll be around. I have to be at work at 6. Calm down...

Unvote He's already at L-...

Lets be honest I would never come up with that plan as scum. why is that? Because as scum i make it a point to both not have original plans and also to lynch people who do. I infamously lynched pale mage for using math to determine how many scum were left. Clan contest 4 I don't understand how that happened, but I wasn't there, so whatever. I'm still not clearing you based on a plan...

The claim bothers me. The defeatist attitude definitely bothers me. But we're pressed for time, and it's not strong enough to chance. Unvote Vote: Jamie...

OOG: I'd quoted those yesterday (or the day before, can't remember) and PM'd them to Stardust in a message titled "Hold this for me, would ya? ;)" He thought it was going to be GOD AWFUL PAINFUL to read. I have to say...it's not! :...

So If I have this correct, we started at dominara, and then someone already planeswalked to where we are now (i.e.: Bolas's Realm) Seeking clarification on something that can be easily researched. I mean, I assume so. I don't know what would be the point of letting us all plains walk every single day if we couldn't come back to them. Answering a question. Im kinda with Imopen on this one. I do think we should hold off on the planeswalking until at least everyone has a chance to post once. Jumping onto someone else's opinion. Yeah, the anyonomous plane was terrible, so leaving that is a given. Im just saying I want to hear from everyone before whizzing around to other planes On the other hand, Double voting counts? How does everyone feel about that? Seeking opinions. He's yet to provide an original opinion, but it's still early. Let's tarry on. One question I would like to ask is why did Jamie walk away from Bolas's meditation realm so fast? Was the effect of that plain worthy of leaving super early? Ok, a question! Well, in researching, Bolas' Meditation Realm was : Bolas's Meditation Realm While at Bolas's Meditation Realm, any player not voting at the end of the Day will be untargetable for that Night. Mafia members also – mmmpff! I don't have much to say about this atm. I have 2 questions: 1) Did you ever get a response to this question? I could go back and look, but I won't. 2) What is your opinion of that plane's effect? One question I would like to ask is why did Jamie walk away from Bolas's meditation realm so fast? Was the effect of that plain worthy of leaving super early? unvote Vote tubehunter I mean, At least provide some insight on why you vote the way you do. We're not in rvs anymore. I'm fairly certain I asked you a while ago why you cared about this vote. I can't remember if you answered (though I guess making this post will tell me that). Regardless, I'd like to know why you think he voted you. You must have SOME idea. Don't go look and see what his answer to you was. Read it right here out of context and tell me what you think might have made him vote you. Please. So by hopping around, we chance ourself to a bad plane, but then we will play a relatively normal game for the rest of the day. Color me intrigued. I'll bite on this plan If we go by we have: WALKED Jamie, wraspy, rin, imopen, LMD, Dechs, Zombad. NOT Me, Col, GR, Red, Ham, Witch. I can volunteer myself for next plains walk if needed. For suspecion, I can't say that i'm not suspisous of Ham. The way he is acting is scarly close to his past scum games. (imo) The fluff posts mostly, those one line throwaways that don't say anything, that is what makes me suspicious. Vote: hamfactorial Marked as the first time he said he CAN go along with the plan. Taken as seeking confirmation. are we really going to do this? Marked as the second time he sought confirmation. So do we want to keep walking or what? I'll be the next volunteer, if we want to. Third time If no one is going to do anything, I'll do it. Planeswalk Finally, on the 4th post, he decided to planeswalk. What, exactly, were you waiting on? I'm serious, this is a bit much. Are you so non-committal that you can't decide on your own to follow a plan that is OBVIOUSLY going to happen? Were you waiting for a personal invitation? Yeah, the anyonomous plane was terrible, so leaving that is a given. Im just saying I want to hear from everyone before whizzing around to other planes On the other hand, Double voting counts? How does everyone feel about that? Had I been here, I would have asked you how you felt about it. I'm here now...and asking now. I don't feel biased one way or another. A plane where we can vote for two people is neither scum nor town imo. I was just asking around, becasue at that point, we really didn't have any discussion going. So you thought a discussion about something that's null would help? I mean, At least provide some insight on why you vote the way you do. We're not in rvs anymore. Why do you care? I don't particularly care, I just think that votes without substance don't add anything to the game, so I would've liked to see some reasoning. As you can see since this is every post you've made in the game, this is the only time you asked for reasoning on a vote. So it's just a coincidence that the ONLY time you were concerned with a reasonless vote was when it was cast on you? jesus, i fucked up that quote real bad. Spam @TubeHunter How many games have you been in? This will be my 5th i think? 5 games is more than enough for a lot of the scumtells I'm seeing to not be happening. Hold on, they're coming. Yeah, quick check reveals this to be my 5th game. 2 towns, one scum, and one time i was a serial killer. Null Im going to unvote for right now, gotta think things over. What, exactly, did you have to think over? Am I going to have to show you guys why TubeHunter is scum? UGH! That's not happening til the weekend at the earliest. I mean, it wouldn't hurt your case to actually explain things lol. Again, concerned with a case on you. You shouldn't care. Vote Jamie To be honest, I think you are scum. There's a reason they say "TBH" is a classic scum tell. Because it is. I've seen it. I've done it. I've been caught by it. There's another CLASSIC linguistic scum tell, too, that I rely heavily on (and saw SOMEONE do it, though I can't remember who atm. I think Jamie.) and the reason I rely on them is because they're true! Mindset of a scum player is that everything you say is a lie, even if it's not, because you're entire life is a lie. Town mindset really has no need to say such things simply because they already know they're telling the truth and have no need to make others believe that. Based on that, I believe this post to be classic bussing. The only others posts are you responding to rcwraspy's post. I'm not going to quote it, but let's see if there's anything I want to mention... "As town, we didnt have enough (in my opinon) information to implicate anyone, much less whiz around to a different plain." I note that when you posted the original post, stating you're with imopen2 on not moving, we were on: Ulgrotha: Players who die here will not have their role PM's revealed and my predecessor had already planeswalked away from it. Possible you had a reason for wanting to stay there and hadn't noticed he'd already planeswalked, but regardless, it's noted. "not trying to antagonize you or anything, but fishing? What is the harm in asking public questions about mechanics that all memebers of the town have to share?" The harm is that by asking everyone's opinions, you could inadvertently out PRs based on how they feel. Long shot, and I disagree that you were fishing, but it is possible. "I mean, does it? I don't know if that was set in stone so much that it was abosulte. I just wanted to know, especially since we had already left." Did Jamie ever answer you? If so, were you satisfied with what he said? Because you never mentioned this again. Use quotes if possible. "This was after Ria and several others already walked in a row. I even said that i was intruiged and wanted to go along with the Ria's plan." So why didn't you? Why did you have to say you would 3 times before you finally did? Yeah, that's it. Awaiting a response. FYI my major complaint with him is he's RIGHT THERE...but he's not. In all the posts he's made, he hasn't done shit but lollygag around and seek approval. He's too concerned with how he looks. He's classic noob scum...

Manders...where is that case? Why are you waiting for someone else to do the work? You're cute. It's ok. I'm actually about done now. Give me a FEW more minutes. And it's not so much a case as it is me asking him questions. @ EVERYONE: PLEASE do not answer any questions for him. STFU and wait for him. If he doesn't respond...fucking vote his ass out the door because he's stalling...

Oh jeez 49 hours. It's coming. I've got all the posts set aside. I just have to put work to them. I'll do it tonight...

Lets be honest I would never come up with that plan as scum. why is that? Because as scum i make it a point to both not have original plans and also to lynch people who do. I infamously lynched pale mage for using math to determine how many scum were left. I don't recall this. What game was that...

Lets be honest I would never come up with that plan as scum. I'm always honest. And, yes, I can see you doing so and am confused as to how you can say you'd never do that. It's a null tell for you. There are SOME I'd make it a slight Town tell...but not you. Even still, slight. Using it to decide anyone is Town is a terribad idea. Scumbag. Idk why everyone is voting Tubehunter but I'm willing to listen. Did I miss something? rcwraspy made a decent attempt at explaining it. I've yet to make my case, which I will be doing asap. Since I was the one to start the campaign, I'll take that responsibility...

As an example: during day 2 we atleast have info on who voted for who. Day 1 not so, its a necessary evil I guess. Your reasoning does not make sense because coming up with that plan does not mean he is Town. I could easily see kpaca doing so as Scum. So for you to call him Town for doing so makes no sense to me...

Tubehunter seems like a good guy to vote. Want to figure out what plane were on and what were doing before i just say that concretely tho. Planeswalk http://archive.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/stf/stf11_NayaBasicLand2.jpg You are now on Alara, Naya. The player who planeswalked here gains an ability that is usable during the Day as long as you remain on Naya: Spellbreaker [target] – "Another target player cannot be targeted for the remainder of this Day and the following Night." What we're doing = trying to find scum...

hey fellow walkers, I'm back, but I see not much has been happening, typical day 1 stuff. Town/scum list please. Input coming tomorrow. That's easy Town: Ria - He came up with a plan to help town get info, and I don't believe that Bolas stuff was any gambit. Everyone else: Null You think that plan was enough to convince you he's Town? I mean, irrelevant now since replaced, but still... I'm not really demanding when its Day 1 since the alternative usually resolves around grasping at straws. That's not gonna fly. You said everyone else is null whereas kp is Town. Your reasoning doesn't make sense. Please make it do so...

Sorry I was busy/sick (both are correct) this weekend...

Raspy's case is good, but I'm still not sold on that. That TBH thing is not something I'd rely upon, and the "Bolas meditation realm is protown" thing was the very reason thatmade me vote for kpaca, but nobody seemed to care at the time. Not tha Finish your thought.....

hey fellow walkers, I'm back, but I see not much has been happening, typical day 1 stuff. Town/scum list please. Input coming tomorrow. That's easy Town: Ria - He came up with a plan to help town get info, and I don't believe that Bolas stuff was any gambit. Everyone else: Null You think that plan was enough to convince you he's Town? I mean, irrelevant now since replaced, but still.....

hey fellow walkers, I'm back, but I see not much has been happening, typical day 1 stuff. Town/scum list please. Input coming tomorrow...

Or he could just learn to use the quote function. I'll have much to say over this weekend, but probably not tonight...

rcwraspy are those all of his posts...

And, yes, I mean I think you are scum, too. Just one thing at a time...

"Your "questions" reek of scum playing along. " I don't understand this part They are weak and offer no insight...

I'll prod him via text. Just HEY GO POST IN DA GAME. Promise. :...

"Shut the fuck up, dude. Obviously he's playing along because he sees no reason not to...AS HE'S ALREADY STATED." Fuck you. If I ask for clarification I'm trying to get explicit stances or statements. Its because I genuinely want to understand their position without trying to influence them. No. You are asking fluff questions that require no clarification just so you can look like you're doing something. Your "questions" reek of scum playing along. So shut the fuck up...