Dies to Removal

RedNihilist

Jack's disappearance is not really nice from him.

RedNihilist

Of course not.
Once per night I can target a single player and see if he receives mail, and from who.

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Rule out option 3.
If scum could bounce the bomb to Pie, they would have lynched someone else.
Also, the only mail Pie received was from C_P.

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I guess that if they could bounce your mail back they would have already done so.
So, they either have 1-shot abilities like raspy had, or they'd be forced to choose between letting your skill resolve or block you again.

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So, I thought about it a little over the course of the last two days and I've decided to come up with my ideas on what happened.

Last night we had ham bomb LMD and Jack protect him, yet nothing happened.
NOTHING.
I would have accepted someone else blowing up, but the fact that the mail wasn't delivered AT ALL is VERY suspicious.

Now, I think that the two most probable scenarios for last night are the following:
- ham lied, and scum messed with Jack's targets in order "protect" the fact that he couldn't vig anyone;
- Jack is a Mafia Jailer and has claimed a similar role because, you know, it was actually easy to confirm - then ham messed him up by claiming his role, and he came up with the "somebody messed with my mail!" thing in order to justify the fact he couldn't protect ham's ability as intended.

I sincerely think that one of these two is scum.

My other scum read is Wraith, as
should be clear by now.
He's the one that strikes me the most and I don't want to restate why, as I think I've made it clear multiple times in my posts.

After a reread LMD does actually feel suspicious, so I can understand why everyone's focus is on him.
Yet, I wouldn't lynch him for now, 'cause I know that scum is just a 2 players team ATM and I'm pretty confident on my previously stated ideas.

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I expect you to send your bomb again tonight.

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Edit: times*

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I am.
If I can play mafia from my office, you can repeat yourself as many time as I want <3

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I do want to fill this correctly:

RedNihilist: sent to Dechs Kaison, delivered correctly
Cursed Pride: sent to (?), delivered to InflatablePie
Wraith223 -> sent to C_P, not delivered to him
Hamfactorial -> supposing his power works via mail, sent to LMD but not delivered at all.
InflatablePie -> delivered to Wraith, probably sent to someone else
Lord_McDonalds -> ?
Dechs Kaison -> ?
Jack -> ?
IsoMoJoCM -> ?

Power play of the night:
ham sends bomb to LMD
Jack protects ham
LMD doesn't blow up

Please help me out.

RedNihilist

I received no mail from anybody.

-I think we're getting too bogged down in mechanics discussion. I'm going to try and reread the game soon, and that and massclaim should solve this game.

RedNihilist: Did you receive mail?
Dinner time here, I'm catching up.
So, some quick revelations in order to catch up what happened last night:
- I received Jack's message - it's exactly the same he has copied here;
- I sent a signed mail to Dechs, and I'd like to know who got that;
- The mail YOU (C_P) sent has arrived in Pie's mailbox.

I watched Pie, of course.

RedNihilist

I've not received any mail.

Alright, so, unsurprisingly, kpaca didn't truthfully claim his ability.

My mail goes through uninhibited, and I can target a player at Night to make sure theirs goes uninhibited, as well.

This is stupid.
Do you know if he has ever used his ability?

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Iso, did you RECEIVE any mail last night?
There's something I want to figure out.

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I'll try to catch up with this mess, but this weekend is becoming quite stressful already.
May I ask if somebody's got some free time to actually summarize where last night's mail went?

My mail arrived to Dechs as expected, while I received a message from Jack that should have been sent to C_P.
Seriously, this could be relevant - MailClaim anyone?

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DAFUQ YOU GUYS DOIN'?

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-I'll reread the current events sometime today.

Did one of the scum steal my mail last night? -We have two players claiming to have sent me mail, but I never got any, and I sent mail and it was apparently sent to InflatablePie.

They probably just changed the targets. I did receive the mail Jack intended to send you, as previously stated.

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So, we'll die of boredom while waiting for C_P.
kk

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Mail Watcher*, lol

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Quick reference for everybody:

Cursed_Pride - Innocent child
Dechs Kaison (replacing DroppinSuga) - claimed "Writing Style specialist" / pretty much Vanilla Town.
hamfactorial - claimed 1 shot Vig, supposedly tried to bomb LMD tonight but failed.
Iso (replacing Mogadishu Jones replacing Captain Murphy) - Hi Iso tell us something about yourself
Jack - claimed "cloaker" here
Lord_Mcdonalds - counterwagon of the day
RedNihilist - Very Handsom Mail Tracker.
Wraith223 - lynch of the day

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Well, I'm not going to ask you for a complete reread because you don't seem to plan doing so, yet I'd like to hear from you about what do you think has happened to ham's bomb.

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-Going to catch up over the weekend.

I still maintain that the Mogadishu Jones slot shouldn't survive to endgame.

Yeah he's scum, kill it with fire

Vote LMD

(In fairness, I was going to vote him based on last page anyway, but I wanted to push for reactions from the rest of you since I don't plan on reading the game.)

Nice way to sub in.
Care to share some more thoughts?

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Eliminating a player cause you don't agree with their strategy is Theros scum play of the week.

Eliminating a player who has consistency issues and / or lies on a regular basis is actually a correct move in my eyes.
And stop appealing to the meta.

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Damn. Everyone is really believing red?

Here are some thoughts.
1. Red has voted anyone who is on the lynch wagon.
2. Red is really concerned in knowing who each player is ability wise.
3. Red only posts significantly when pressured or is pushing a wagon.
4. Red only became significant to town when pie asked him to join in his votes.
5. Red is pushing my wagon hard due to my hammering pie. Pie did make a big deal out of it except Jack, red, and ham.
6. Red is lying big time on my claim that he did played scum before.

Bold = [citation needed].

Hurry up, this is getting fun.

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Fine, so I'll be specific.

-Please stop moving your votes around.

I'd hate for another quickhammer to happen when the day's only just begun.

Hi C_P, what are we waiting for?
Let's work together so we can achieve whatever you need to before we lynch Wraith.

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I believe that puts my vote at hammer if I do vote? I am unsure Rez is scum as he has posted material I found to be town mindset? Although, that was only for the Red claim which was rather obviously visible in the Mod example.

Insincere? Uh, no. I really find Rez to be scum this game. Thought he was earlier with the stupid attack on ham.

Why aren't we still not lynching this scum?

Somebody give me a reason, and let's go from there.

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Also: hi, spirit-of-rezombad-who-watches-over-us-from-afterlife.

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Why so sure about Wraith over LMD? Explain it to me like I'm 10.

I'll try to make this short because it's 1 AM here.

LMD is being LMD.
He's not relevant for the moment, he didn't do any major slip for now AND he was the counterwagon to scum on Day 1 - that doesn't clear him, but can be taken as a hint.

On the other hand, Wraith has done all he could to stop raspy's wagon on Day 1 and quick-hammered Pie on Day 2 even when C_P (confirmed town) asked people to slow the fuck down (I'm considering you 0x10, so you FUCK is legit, k?), plus a number of other over the top things that you guys are letting slip because he's just "Wraith being Wraith" like forging evidence - he blatantly lied on how I behaved when I was scum.

nIf he really turns out to be town (~0.01% at this point, I'd say), we're STILL increasing our odds of winning by removing him from this game.

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No, we're just lynching Wraith.

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I'll discuss ham again after the-guy-who-slowrolls-Day1-because-he-wants-to-lynch-LMD-instead-of-raspy-but-quicklynches-on-Day2 (also known as Wraith) hangs from the tallest shelf of the office.

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Indeed it did. I gave you the irrelevant part that seems to be inserted for verification reasons. Would you like me to quote the whole thing?

Yup.
I need to do some thinking here.

You all feel free to hang Wraith while I do.

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So, let me get this right: MY mail went through as expected?

RedNihilist

I received no mail from anybody.

-I think we're getting too bogged down in mechanics discussion. I'm going to try and reread the game soon, and that and massclaim should solve this game.

RedNihilist: Did you receive mail?

Dinner time here, I'm catching up.
So, some quick revelations in order to catch up what happened last night:
- I received Jack's message - it's exactly the same he has copied here;
- I sent a signed mail to Dechs, and I'd like to know who got that;
- The mail YOU (C_P) sent has arrived in Pie's mailbox.

I watched Pie, of course.

RedNihilist

I recall the end of day 1 and of day 2 and I'm 99.9% sure Wraith is scum, period.

Also, I know things, just trust me for the moment.

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1) ham did you target Pie? [Y/N]
2) Jack did you target ham? [Y/N]
Jack already said he protected Ham and that his action was confirmed.

I just don't believe him because reasons.

Be back in 3 hours.

RedNihilist

1) ham did you target Pie? [Y/N]
2) Jack did you target ham? [Y/N]

RedNihilist

This makes no sense.
Let's go back to who targeted who.

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We should ask that to Wraith before hanging him, I suggest.

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CP should post the mail I sent him.
-I received no mail.

That's funny.

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Come on C_P, come out!

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Interesting things are interesting.

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THINGS ARE INTERESTING.

Let's hear from C_P.

Still, Wraith is going down.

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