Dies to Removal

Azrael

My abilities are submitted. Lord McD, if you're not ready to go to night, lmk, and I'll hold my vote.

Azrael

The one we're currently in, for example.

I'll be more specific. In what universe could you be telling the truth about getting a town-result on Imopen through your claimed ability, and still be town?

How does that happen, pray tell?

Azrael

Occam's Razor: imopen isn't lying.

If he is, tell me why he needs to have a partner.

When imopen flips scum, please explain in what possible universe could you be town?

Azrael

Cool. I've submitted appropriate plans. Lord McD, there's a decent chance I'm going to be killed once Imopen flips, so I think one of the best uses of my abilities would be to chrono-boost you. I've submitted two versions of the ability, one that allows you use it at the time of your choosing, and o...

Azrael

Everyone stopped posting again. Lord McD, CK, Dechs, what questions are still on your mind regarding how we play today and tonight? We seem to be looking at a few remaining topics: 1. Verifying that no one other than the scum team could be responsible for Imopen being still alive. At this point, o f...

Azrael

Since its obvious at this point noone is gonna snitch itself about the blocking, the next step is checking wether it was possible that any of the dead guys ( G_R, ham and rez ) could have done it at that time Relevant time period is D1. To have a device active on D2, they would have to build at tha...

Azrael

Resorting to fear, huh? Is that how you characterize embracing the idea that the town should A) Kill me because its good play to not ignore a claimed cop investigation, while B) using its abilities to play around losing to said false cop gambit in the process? Pretty fair characterization, there. C...

Azrael

I have no problem with planning for after your death since I know your death will prove me right.

Good, then you and RN should probably stop arguing against that idea, for example, bawling about your cop investigation being ignored, or saying that doing so would be "fear-mongering".

Azrael

Resorting to fear, huh? Is that how you characterize embracing the idea that the town should A) Kill me because its good play to not ignore a claimed cop investigation, while B) using its abilities to play around losing to said false cop gambit in the process? Pretty fair characterization, there. Cl...

Azrael

*grins* In his last several posts you can see signs of RN trying to manuever around here a bit so that he isn't caught in the same trap as Imopen. He wants to make sure he isn't tied to his dying buddy. A townie might have thought to do the same thing, but ONLY if he didn't buy that Imopen's result ...

Azrael

I really don't get why Azrael went *that* overboard to save Col. MoJo and hang ham. Any good hypothesis is welcome. Take note that, at the moment, I consider myself, DK and LMD as confirmed town. Because I wanted the vigilante alive, and the only viable candidate I had for scum at the time dead. CK...

Azrael

Dechs, please unvote again so that we can kill me in a little while, properly.

Azrael

If someone actually has a vig shot I would gladly take it so we can lynch az right after. That would put us at an unnecessary dolls advantage but you guys can't know that so I don't blame you for being safe. I would want to confirm with stardust beforehand that a vig shot wouldn't end the day tho N...

Azrael

Either Rez or Ham had to have protected Imopen. Or the scum. I'm not going to fall into the trap that a failed kill means scum because it's the trick I pulled in gone postal. Both Rez and Ham's actions are already accounted for, and it's not them. And the mafia already had a RBer/jailer who we kill...

Azrael

And no response to my inventions? Strange. That seemed like such a big deal an hour ago

This game's going to be decided by role abilities, now. Everything else is just a footnote.

Azrael

from the other three townies

^

Azrael

I need feedback from the other three townies on what plans you'd like me to submit before we proceed further.

Azrael

Having flashbacks now to Mojo trying to twist Imopen's arm into claiming what his abilities were last night.

CK's not lying about that, and Mojo was right about Imopen all along.

Azrael

*thinks* Another thought. Both RN and Imopen claimed to come up with the same invention, right? A truth-detector submitted to the mod? Is that right?? Because let's say Dechs is right, and the scum don't have any master-builders. If you were a scum, and you didn't have the ability to demonstrate tha...

Azrael

The only thing that would potentially make this fail is if Imopen has some kind of broad-based immunity/untargetability to all our builder abilities, which was what resulted in the kill on him failing. The best way around that would be to have the town cooperate in chrono-boosting a couple different...

Azrael

If Imopen is lying, it's only because there's two scum and they'll win with the night kill tonight. And I have just the invention to prevent that. :D Vote Az If you're town, sorry man. If you're scum, that was an awesome bus of GR. Either way, this is a calculated lynch from my standpoint. Town win...

Azrael

I never said you were afraid to die. I know you are pandering. I'm definitely not afraid to die. I'm afraid of letting you get another night phase since there is nothing I can do to stop you during the night and I think the town will lose if we let that happen Because I'm going to whip an extra kil...

Azrael

No, rez was the guy who was com-chatting me.

Stardust just confirmed that we can chrono-boost people tonight, and have their abilities ready to use for tomorrow. A plan that double-lynches both me and Imopen IS feasible.

Azrael

You can't act like 3 scum is possible for your theories and then forget to address that when evaluating my theories. It doesn't follow and it shows a disingenuous perspective That's actually a fair critique. You could revise that to say instead, that you've proven that the scum team is either me an...

Azrael

tl;dr. I have imopen as confirmed town. Vote Azrael Can you elaborate? I have checked his sentence, he didn't lie about being town. Ok, so when Imopen flips scum, you know Red is lying as well. Awesome. Yes, we're both lying. Who was leading the town this whole time? Who used their previous experie...

Azrael

5. I have no idea if scumbag is lying about Viging me or not, but I have no protection ability so it's either a gambit or someone saved me. Not my concern. Did anyone save Imopen's life at the beginning of day two? If not, he's a confirmed liar. This is misleading. There are at least three other ex...

Azrael

tl;dr.
I have imopen as confirmed town.

Vote Azrael
Can you elaborate?
I have checked his sentence, he didn't lie about being town.

Ok, so when Imopen flips scum, you know Red is lying as well. Awesome.

Azrael

I'll ask Stardust if the chrono plan's feasible.

PPE: CK, I'm checking into that now. That's what we need to have happen, kill us both at once, but we need to make sure it's a lynch since Imopen is kill-immune.

Azrael

*thinks*

No, that plan is crap. Imopen has already dodged a town-controlled day kill for no good reason. Which means the only way we can safely deal with him is by lynch.

So, you'd need a device that kills me off, simultaneously with Imopen being lynched. That could work.

Azrael

So its likely we have two scum left at this point? 3 scum overall in this game? With Imopen claiming not to be gambitting, from my perspective, it's the only possible way to explain what's going on here. Red/Imopen being the strongest candidates by far. *think* The trick is to figure out how we can...

Azrael

5. I have no idea if scumbag is lying about Viging me or not, but I have no protection ability so it's either a gambit or someone saved me. Not my concern.

Did anyone save Imopen's life at the beginning of day two?

If not, he's a confirmed liar.

Azrael

Full-claim: Shaquille O'Neal. My flavor references the 2002 NBA All-stars and basketball catapaults. No building specialty. There's a pic of me in a Laker's uniform, number 34, with some cheesy smile on the left corner of my mouth, a pizza in my right hand, and two more pieces of pizza lying on my r...

Azrael

Well, that's probably GG to scum Imopen/red then, if he's not town gambitting. Don't really expect you guys to trust me over a cop investigation, even if it is at potential lylo and there's some minor details he's flubbed up with his claim and being randomly kill-immune for no good reason. :/ PPE: S...

Azrael

D2, I built a one-shot kill delay. If I were targeted by a kill, the kill's effect would have been delayed until the following night. I didn't want the town to go into another day without me having the chance to figure out who the last scum was/were. I also thought I might be able to trick Stardust...

Azrael

I don't have a night shot any longer. I targeted imopen2 the beginning of day 2 but nothing happened. Imopen, I thought you were building your investigation device on days 1 and 2? Care to explain why you were kill-immune? While you're at it, I'd like to hear what all your alternative plans for day...

Azrael

Two questions must be answered. CK: Do you have a day kill? Az: Is your invention complete? D1, I built a one-shot bullet-proof which successfully stopped the scum NK, I believe. No one else has claimed responsibility for stopping the scum NK. D2, I built a one-shot kill delay. If I were targeted b...

Azrael

At this point, I agree that the town pretty much can't move forward without knowing my alignment, assuming Imopen isn't gambitting. It's a lylo situation, so it IS a potential game-winning gambit for a two-scum team to lie about cop results and ride off into the sunset, but the optimal play in this ...

Azrael

If we are up against a two-scum team of Imopen and Red, if CK's got a vig-shot, we can still win this by CK taking me out with it, I flip town, and then the town lynches Imopen, if game's not over, lynch Red in succession.

Azrael

Also, why question who I would "examinate" if Ham flipped town? Wouldn't the more natural question to ask be who you yourself thought was worth looking into in that scenario? Reads like you're either leaning on my expertise, or trying to figure out if I needed to be NK'd. PPE: Dechs, you s...

Azrael

"Pretty ballsy move" my ass, I actively wanted to hang MoJo for most of Day 2, but there was a certain somebody who was so damn sure that ham was scum that he was willing to sabotage any non-ham wagon. What does the 2nd half of this sentence have to do with the first? If you're scum, blat...

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