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by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:11 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Maybe because you think we're going to hang Az first, then go after Imopen when he shows up town? yeah well there's still you and LMD, assuming I wouldn't be able to NK anyone. Not worth it when I could have stood idle and watch Az get lynched, then NK someone else and seeing imopen2 get lynched th...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:01 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

CK knows he's not lying about the failed vig kill on Imopen. That's one vote that *may* very well come down in favor of killing Imopen before killing me. And YOU believe that me and CK can't be scum together. That being the case, if you believe that only a single scum is left and it's either me or C...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:43 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

And again, I'm not saying you shouldn't kill me, Dechs. I'm not saying to take my word on faith. All I'm saying is that you should kill Imopen, first, b/c he's NK immune and you can then verify his investigation, and THEN have somebody vig me off. If you think I'm the only scum left, OR that CK is t...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:39 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Agreed about me and CK not being a viable scum team, that is.
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:39 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

The scum can't do anything about me because I've done the math, and no matter who the remaining scum is, there's a more important target than me. If they target Imopen, *I'm* proven to be a liar, I die, town wins or searches for my buddy, probably CK, and probably wins. You and CK cannot be a scum ...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:36 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Az, you've got to realize that you're the only viable lynch today. There's a cop with backup telling us you're scum. If you really are town and you really do believe that the scum is a team, then you're only option to win at this point is to vote no-lynch. You're not going to convince us to hang Im...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:27 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

The scum can't do anything about me because I've done the math, and no matter who the remaining scum is, there's a more important target than me. Alright. Let's proceed from this premise, then and see what scenarios we'd be looking at. From a neutral bystander perspective he scum have four feasible...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:09 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

I'm not probing you. If you say what it is you can do, if you even start HINTING at it, we almost certainly lose. I just have a hard time entirely trusting you that there's nothing that could possibly screw you up tonight. There is nothing you should try to comment say or do about that, or else we'r...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:57 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

If Az is town, it's because Imopen's power was tampered with. Imopen could easily reuse the ability tonight on Az, either clearing or damning Az for sure. But if Imopen is an innocent townie cop, like he says and *someone* just tampered with his results, then why the hell did he survive CK's vig ki...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:43 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Ok, Az, try this: What's worse? Lynching you or no-lynching? One of those is happening toDay. That depends on you. I don't know what your ability tonight will be, and don't want to know. But that's a pretty relevant consideration. I don't know whether you'll be more willing to lynch red and Imopen ...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:31 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Yes, I have multiple concerns with your plan, az. 1. It relies on CK having a vig shot 2. It relies on CK being town 3. It assumes that CK vigged me previously 4. It requires you to chrono boost this supposed vig shot to cause your own death. (You throw in that we could have RN post lmd's vig...yet...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:28 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Honestly, Az, you're the closest to being lynched right now. If anyone, you should want to vote no-lynch out of self preservation instinct.
I'm not worried about self-preservation, I'm worried about the game being lost. Under either no-lynch or a lynch on me, our chances are questionable.
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:27 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Scum's either going to kill CK to stop his vig or Imopen to stop him from using the second shot of his cop ability. Either way, it eliminates one of the big three suspects right now. I don't think we can count on either of those two things happening. It might tell us something, depending on how the...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:19 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

I've read that already, but the fact is you're too concerned with the three scum setup. You said earlier that three scum was practically impossible. What changed your mind? Because two scum trying to kill me. It's not feasible that there are less than two scum due to the claims that Imopen and Red ...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:19 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

I've read that already, but the fact is you're too concerned with the three scum setup. You said earlier that three scum was practically impossible. What changed your mind? Because two scum trying to kill me. It's not feasible that there are less than two scum due to the claims that Imopen and Red ...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:21 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Actually, no-lynch isn't a guaranteed loss, but we still wouldn't get the chance to double lynch, which would be the only attraction to a no-lynch scenario. You'd HAVE to make the next lynch or vig kill correctly, or it'd be game over. That doesn't really help us. We want two chances to get it right...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:19 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Hey, I'm really pretty sure that there can't be two scum left. That said, I really think we could all use another day. Specifically for our inventions. I mean, MoJo/CK is supposed to have a vig shot tomorrow. We can use it on Az with the insta lynch option on Imopen if that makes everyone happy. Th...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:40 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

The only explanation to your behaviour I can come up with consists in you knowing very well that your only way out is trying to get imopen lynched, then come up with something like "well, right now it's clear that it was RN that has messed with his power and directed him all along" as soo...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:38 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Step 3, utilizing Red and LMD's abilities, could take any number of other alternate forms if you think a vig-kill can be played around too easily. Step 3 is also reinforced by whatever Dechs is planning. If he's correct in his assessment, even if we mislynched a townie Imopen, town still wouldn't lo...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:20 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Step 3: Let's say the town can't count on CK or me being town. In that case, you can have Red chrono-boost a vig-kill controlled by LMD. Then, if Imopen flips scum, LMD can blast me into oblivion as well for redundancy's sake.
Then, if Imopen flips *town*
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:19 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

*thinks* The no-lynch scenario doesn't work, actually. If we no-lynched, and scum killed, we'd be at 3 townies, two scum. If we then double-killed me and Imopen, then we'd be at 2 townies, and one scum. Scum would NK, winning the game. We can't no-lynch. --- Here's what I think the best alternative ...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:09 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Be mindful that I've already stated that I'm willing to follow the Occam's Razor and consider you scum, as imopen claims having you as confirmed scum + myself having him as town. I enjoy how both you and Imopen are mirroring the same flawed, logically corrupt arguments from one another, like chanti...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:56 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Votecount, bitte. Chomping at the bit a little, are we? Dechs, we still need to figure out a plan involving LMD and CK that doesn't lose us the game, if we're choosing to lynch me today. Problem is, that's probably going to be a bit difficult at this point, as I'm suspecting everyone has already su...
by Azrael
Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:59 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Alright. New plan. I'm just going to trust the cop. If Imopen is lying, it's because there's two scum left, but I don't care, I still clinch this for Town tonight. Vote Azrael Any of us are "the cop", in this game. Ordinarily, you trust the cop unswervingly because there's only one for ba...
by Azrael
Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:33 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

I wondered yesterday whether I ought to hammer Imopen just to protect the town from itself. : / Dechs, the possibility of a sabotage device has been raised several times, first by Red, then by me. It's a possibility, provided that the scum team has a master builder. But we don't have any firm evide...
by Azrael
Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:24 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Yeah... CK has not demonstrated anything. Hell, I haven't. No one really has except Rez.
He was the first person to claim a specialization.
by Azrael
Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:30 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Something else I just realized, we never had Red or Imopen claim their flavor.
by Azrael
Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:22 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

I wondered yesterday whether I ought to hammer Imopen just to protect the town from itself. : / Dechs, the possibility of a sabotage device has been raised several times, first by Red, then by me. It's a possibility, provided that the scum team has a master builder. But we don't have any firm eviden...
by Azrael
Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:22 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

If CK and I were both scum together, no amount of "town cred" by delaying a hammer would save me in the alternate universe where you actually flipped town. If I were scum with someone other than CK, then that means CK was telling the truth about his kill attempt on you, which doesn't reall...
by Azrael
Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:46 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

I look forward to Red and Imopen trying to explain that.
by Azrael
Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:38 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

LMK if you're still good with the original plan, lynching imopen, then vigging appropriately tomorrow, after he flips.
by Azrael
Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:33 am
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

First off, I'd like to state for the record that I realize I could instantly lynch Imopen right now.

Second, I don't have a chronoboost available to use today, CK. I would need to build a chronoboost during the night, then use it on you.
by Azrael
Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:16 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

LMD, are your plans ready?
by Azrael
Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:14 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Well, if that's the best we can do, I'd rather have preferred a night vigilante kill
Likewise, but that's the one thing he says chrono boosting won't be capable of accomplishing, unless it were my bot version, which got kicked back for taking two days.
by Azrael
Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:57 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Per Stardust though, it will only be available by day tomorrow. Is that still ok with you?
by Azrael
Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:57 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Cool. I've submitted appropriate plans. Lord McD, there's a decent chance I'm going to be killed once Imopen flips, so I think one of the best uses of my abilities would be to chrono-boost you. I've submitted two versions of the ability, one that allows you use it at the time of your choosing, and ...
by Azrael
Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:54 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

I'm confused, do we have a vig shot, can someone point me to a post confirming that?
CK's claimed he can kill someone by tonight.
by Azrael
Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:13 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

The one we're currently in, for example. I'll be more specific. In what universe could you be telling the truth about getting a town-result on Imopen through your claimed ability, and still be town? How does that happen, pray tell? uuuh, if imopen2 is a godfather? :shrug: But it wasn't a cop invest...
by Azrael
Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:11 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

The one we're currently in, for example. I'll be more specific. In what universe could you be telling the truth about getting a town-result on Imopen through your claimed ability, and still be town? How does that happen, pray tell? uuuh, if imopen2 is a godfather? :shrug: But it wasn't a cop invest...
by Azrael
Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:05 pm
Forum: Completed Games
Topic: LEGO Movie Mafia - Game Over - Town Win
Replies: 1529
Views: 289722

Warning: extreme WIFOM inside: Because it's a stupid gambit if he's the only scum left. We lynch Az, find out he's lying, then lynch him. The only way him lying makes sense is if there are two scum to end the game. ... or we find out that Az was in fact town, and imopen goes with "Somebody's i...

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