Dies to Removal

Also, please quote this dumbtell/scumtell because I have no idea what you're referring to...

@ Jamie: Why was your vote on G_R? Did you ever pursue that at all? Is that all you have on Ham? When I voted all he had said in thread is a bunch of fluff and some pointed fingers at people everyone else was pointing fingers at. Then he said a dumbtell/scumtell. After I voted he started contributing more so I went to the next guy. Yes. This is all I have on ham. How does that differ from G_R's normal game play? Contributing means he's Town? I don't understand why you decided to drop suspicion of him without probing or anything. And that's pretty weak @ your "case" on Ham...

Don't make that a term. If it already is, stop it. He didn't invent PBPAs. Love the guy, don't get me wrong, but he's not the bees knees of the Mafia world...

Am I going to have to show you guys why TubeHunter is scum? UGH! That's not happening til the weekend at the earliest...

@ Jamie: Why was your vote on G_R? Did you ever pursue that at all? Is that all you have on Ham...

IIRC everyone did, which proved that rezmo was telling the truth about being the private planeswalk. There's really no reason to lie about that, so this isn't surprising...

I don't find anyone's choice to walk suspicious. Mayhap they way they went about it, but not the walk itself. It's too early to condemn based on that, though. Needz moar infurmayshun...

I never said that was why I was voting him. I just saw the answer to a previously asked question and answered it...

Ok I'm caught up. Nothing to say that can't wait until after the game is over. TubeHunter walked us from Bant, kpaca. I like my vote where it is...

Alright, final destination. Should we agree on the target, or do we leave this to WitchHunt so he can keep it to himself until toMorrow or something? Directing power roles isn't the best idea. Ever. I doubt I'll get to do much more catching up today, but I'll try. I have all weekend, though. Especially if we go to Bubba's house tonight. There's a laptop I can use while they chug on the kegerator...

If he did, whoever reviewed this game sucks at their job...

Anybody think stardust would have given someone the ability to win the game if all players walk in one game day? Too broken. I doubt it...

Who planeswalked us to bant? Ham did. About 10-15 posts back. Maybe less, I didn't count...

Vote Tubehunter Could you stop throwing your vote around like rey mysterio until youve finished reading the game and catching up or,whatever. Uh...that's my first vote. And you should be grateful I'm catching up at all. I could pull a you. :p Furthermore, I feel differently than you in regards to his townieness...

Ooh, Jamie's voting him. Hmm...

@TubeHunter How many games have you been in...

Vote Tubehunter...

Balls, I just read through DK's posts and saw that he publicly walked early in the thread. I thought Manders' failed walk was because DK did it via PM. I'm going to read through again and see who's walked. That was rezombad. Jeez, I juat got here, dude. Pay attention!...

Well how-do everybody! Y'all ready to rock this game? http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100723171637/magicthegathering/it/images/c/ca/The_Dark_Barony.jpg As you slip away from the silver spires and back into the infinite planes, you can't help thinking that this might get old fast. And it does. Right now, in fact. Even before you open your eyes, you know that something is wrong. The design of this plane is flawed somehow. Weak. Dark. In the distance you can make out the castle of Baron Sengir, the vampire overlord of this plane, and you already feel like leaving. You are now on Ulgrotha. Players who die here will not have their role PM's revealed. Did I miss it in the OP that role PMs will be revealed upon death? wow, this whole shifting the scenery every couple posts doesn't really allow us to see how people interact within the boundries of that unique set of rules/mechanics...anyone think of that? or are you all just desperately trying to search for your home-base? for example, if someone wanted to be untargetable, they could have just not voted...and that's at least a little behavior we could analyze. anyone have other opinions on this? maybe i'm looking at it wrong? anyways Vote: RCW because this was stupid: Vote stardust It was also random, so why are you voting for him when RVS is clearly over? Based on your own post, it was clearly over. the rules for the planes so far has been worse for town than a vanilla plane. We should keep walking until we find a good one, then stop. I hate this post. No. Not revealing aPM on death is probably the worst possible plane for town. We had to leave that one. What makes you think it would only be bad for town? Yup, that would be awful. Still I fear that some planes could be ACTUALLY dangerous. I hate this post. Why the fuck did you idiots walk us off of dominaria within like 5 posts. Seriously wtf. I love you. If we get back on Dominaria, you assholes better stay put! Yeah, the anyonomous plane was terrible, so leaving that is a given. Im just saying I want to hear from everyone before whizzing around to other planes On the other hand, Double voting counts? How does everyone feel about that? Had I been here, I would have asked you how you felt about it. I'm here now...and asking now. Yeah, the first planeswalk was me. I tried to go somewhere cool. In retrospect, I feel more valuable discussion has been gleaned from that than any sort of RVS. vote rcwraspy I don't like his 'you trying to flavor game' post. and the timing and wording on his post following me saying I was suspicious of people that didn't support walking away pinged me as well. His appeal to imopen doesn't seem right to me, though the nonvote on stardust is null. :ugh: Alright bros, while we're here in double vote city, let's get to double voting! Because of the unique rules here, if we treat the secondary vote as our regular vote, then try to fill up the primary, the secondary vote acts as a kind of scum-tell trap. Assuming that we can get the town to value the win more than their lives, this could be effective. I personally pledge to not walk away if I'm the secondary vote lynch candidate. If we planeswalk away from here, the secondary vote disappears and whoever has a lynch vote will be spared. A scum player has motive to walk away if he's a lynch candidate in the secondary vote. A scum player has motive to stay put if a townie is the lynch candidate in the secondary vote. Any walk away from a lynch in the secondary vote will be immediately suspicious. I assume that a dead confirmed town is better than an alive question mark, so I will offer myself up as a candidate for the secondary vote. If you think this plan is dumb, continue voting as normal. Vote2: hamfactorial The only thing wrong with this plan is that scum can PM planeswalk, so there's no transparency. I like that you came up with one, though. That's something I don't think I've ever seen out of you. Actual input. Under normal circumstances any douchebag non-team asshole player would planeswalk away if they were going to die, town or not imo (If they haven't walked already that is). Is that really considered scum bait? Fixed. Regardless it wasn't because of the reason I already gave, but still. Any townie worth their salt would be willing to sac themselves for the good of the team. I was invincible on dominaria. Good thing we just decided to planeswalk 5 times like some idiots before everyone even confirmed. Now I'm fucking vanilla and will remain such likely the whole game. Thanks. No wonder you were so pissed. See why you guys shouldn't just jump from plane to plane all willy-nilly! No really, cut that shit out guys Could you specify what shit you would like is to cut out? God I'm glad I replaced this guy. What a tool. It does muck things up a bit, but I'm sure there are ways to discover who walked us after the deed has been done. What makes you think there are ways to discover that? One question I would like to ask is why did Jamie walk away from Bolas's meditation realm so fast? Was the effect of that plain worthy of leaving super early? unvote Vote tubehunter ----- That's some solid motivation there paca. :ugh: You're mad that people wanted to try out the planeswalk mechanic in a game themed completely around planeswalking? Did you tell them "hey I'm invincible here, let's not leave"? If no, sit down and quit yer bitching. :argh: When we don't know what kind of stuff will happen? You're goddamn right a bit of restraint goes a long way. I mean, At least provide some insight on why you vote the way you do. We're not in rvs anymore. Why do you care? Why are you posting response to me here and not Jamie? Why do you think he is? He started it. This made me laugh so fucking hard. I mean, it's true...but still hilarious. I am confused by this double voting shit and I need to go run errands so I'm going to Unvote And hopefully figure this out later I'm not buying this. this seems bad for us...since the town makes up the majority (i assume) of the players. Planeswalk :hifive: you think my posts are scummy but you like this one? Yeah, ok. vote: imopen2 Why did you vote imopen2? Also, what is the point of addressing kpaca (I refuse to call him by that other name) in your post? I'm voting you because you're incredibly shifty. I'm not feeling scum for him. Trust me. I'm a Dr. Pepper. ;) Why? Shut the fuck up, dude. Obviously he's playing along because he sees no reason not to...AS HE'S ALREADY STATED. Asking questions for the sake of asking questions just to look good doesn't actually make you look good. And apparently I'll be training for the rest of the day. Catching up will have to wait...

I'm working on a post In between calls. It may take all day, but I'll get it back. Until then, what do you guys think I should know? Dechs was vocal about ria's plan. What are your thoughts? Dunno what plan you're talking about. I saw Ham's. I'm not done re-reading...

Ha! I don't even know if that'll work. I do know I don't like you...

Can I get a little bit of time before we pw away? Thanks! No. You cannot. Planeswalk please Stardust...

I'm working on a post In between calls. It may take all day, but I'll get it back. Until then, what do you guys think I should know...