So, I'm pretty sure a couple of ya'll should unvote unless you feel like giving the scum a freebie quick lynch for absolutely no sane reason. We're what, L-1?
Achievement #1, unlocked! Let the games begin.
Also, five Az points says that half the thread finds the disjunction between the tone of this paragraph and the preceding paragraph disturbing and inexplicable.
Same question. Why?
hamfactorial » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:51 am wrote: Azrael » Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:58 pm wrote: hamfactorial » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:41 am wrote:
I'm ok with your method of scum hunting, carry on. You've never played a game with me, so asserting that I don't sound genuine is loose.
Why did you want me to pick two friends?
Thread Poll #1 - Is Ham's bravado genuine, or artificial?
Because I want to know the two people you're speaking to in the night.
Lulz, even if you think I'm scum could you be less condescending? To think I'd just point you to scum buddies is insulting. I wouldn't make it easy for you if I was scum.
Why do you think there are 3 scum?
You're misreading what I'm doing, there. I'm a playful mafia player. I like to kill people with a smile on my face. Why so serious?
I don't think there's three scum,
actually. Two is standard for this game size, three gives the town only a single mislynch prior to lylo. But I was interested in seeing who was the first person to point that out. Congratulations!
( G_R ) » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:17 am wrote:
Just a question Az, is your Red read for real, and if so, how come is that a town tell?
My vote is serious, I think people can see why.
It's the weakest of town tells and town reads. Unless your reasons are similar to why I was voting Ham, I don't see it.
What a delightfully polemic tone. I take it you don't like the cut of my jib, and you think that's worth a vote? Or
perhaps you think that it's worth bandwagoning for an easy kill?
Not certain why you think I'm applying for the position of sheriff. I find the jester to a be much more useful vantage point in this stage of the game.
I am also curious as to why you would assume 3 scum. I've never played with you, but from what I understand you are a veteran of mafia, and therefore it is hard to believe this was a slip, nevertheless it's definitely worth noting.[/quote]
Strange play equals scum? If so, there wouldn't be a game that goes by that I wouldn't be lynched day 1. Pretty great way to stack up townie bodies, though, and justify scum votes.
My theory is that your
theory is baseless.
I despise RVS and I love generating reactions as expeditiously as possible, which my playstyle is designed to do. I'm also a fan of staking entire mafia teams through the heart on the first day of play. So if my line of play seems outlandish to you, I've been playing this silly game for far too long, almost a decade, and I've adopted more than a few idiosyncrasies along the way.
Ham's a pretty decent scum candidate. But there's a lot of interesting material on this first wagon to sift through. I can see staking him through the heart as our first serious wagon. Inquisitiveness as to what the case is against him is a pretty common scum reaction; the emphasis on making sure that we all know he's not afraid, not nervous, comes across as very strained to me. The town doesn't really have a motive to communicate those ideas under ordinary circumstances, they simply act in accordance with those traits. Ham's actually going to the trouble of pointing out to us how unafraid he is of
my case, now that he knows what it is.
Hence, my thread poll. Do you think Ham's repeated statements that he's not worried or afraid ring a little false, or do you think he simply felt the need to repeatedly state how unafraid he is as town for some reason?
You may as well also consider whether my statements are ringing false, tonally. They certainly are, as they're crawling with deception from top to bottom. The trick that will determine whether this is a good town or a silly town, is whether you're able to correctly perceive the motivation for those actions as town, scum, or null.
If I were you, and were familiar with my play, I'd regard it as heavily pro-town in effect, but null as relates to my alignment, because I find it necessary to attempt to make my D1 mafia play a facsimile with the same pro-town effect as my normal town games. But don't take my word for it: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/outs ... -game-overhttp://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/outs ... ver-finalehttp://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/outs ... -game-over