G_R - for the voting thing.
rcwraspy - I haven't liked his questions so far.
one of: doclawless, hamfactorial or LMD. Need more content from these guys.
Most of these players aren't posting much, so if they would post more so I can engage with them, that would be great.
Then you should vote with me.
vote: GR
Furhter to before, in Ragnarok Pie was scum and did not protect either myself or Tubehunter (both noob town) when we were under duress; that Pie is standing up for Freedom here suggests to me that either:
- Pie is town and wants to prevent a
mislynch;
- They're scum buddies.
Now I think it is MUCH more likely than the first option (both town) is correct; based on both Freedom's actions and responses and because I don't think Pie would try to save a noob scum team mate.
I defended the fuck out of TubeHunter, what. I kept saying he was town because he had a dayvig and scum don't get those, then the whole receiving my "results" thing. Misrep more.
But if freedom flips scum and you guys want to run me up, I understand.
"GR is scum"
<-- every fucking game of mafia I've ever played.
This sounds familiar.
@Stardust: read on me. go. regardless of read, tell me the person to most likely be scum if I was.
@everyone: InflatablePie. Not InflatiblePie, Inflatable Pie, InflattablePie, InflateablePie, etc. pls <_<
Wraith's
212:
The evil undertone is strong here and he knows Zem is cutting grass to reveal the bugs. - no, but I kind of get what you're getting at here.
I find the poor rules violation of refering to a past game an indication that you are giving useless information to support a save. - Lemme double-check to make sure Suga isn't a NaziMod... nope. You're confused here, since you're new. There are two rules relevant to this situation: no talking of
ongoing games (games that are not finished), and no forming alliances or something outside of games to use game-to-game. Talking about a game that has ended is fine. I suggest you go read that game if you want to brush up on mafia (I'm not meaning this as insulting btw,
dunno how to word it better
)
Also, the Starbuck comment was nothing more than a fart in the wind. Why is it me then? - 12+13 player games usually run about 3 scum, with some exceptions (2 scum + traitor or Serial Killer, etc.). There were three-four people on z's wagon. If Z is scum, there is a small but relevant chance that someone is bussing him early. If he is town, there is a more likely chance that scum has their vote on him by now. As for who the most likely person that is out of you three, that'd be you or GR (who I believe did vote him, you edited my post a bit and I don't have the VC in front of me).
All your comments are missdirection away from Freedom. Please explain. - Well yeah, in my first big post I yelled at everyone to get off of freedom. I really think he's town, and if I didn't respond like that, he could very well have been lynched by now. I'
d also like to point out that the same people I yelled at to unvote him, did so very soon after I posted. That's weird, and it's making me nervous.
Yet you do not vote GR? - because I still think Z is scum, so I left my vote. If you notice, I'm actually voting him now (even though I think Z is scum). Why do you think I'm voting someone Z has a scumread on?
You're more townie for that post even though you're on the wrong track FMPOV.
@Stardust/rcw "posts look like scumRCW's posts": yeah, it was me that said that. I've also only played one game with you. Regardless, I wanted to point that out.
@Ham's
218:
Yeah, I prefer linking to the post so people can read side-by-side instead of quoting huge posts. I also miss the feature mafiascum has where you can highlight something, click quote and it only quotes that part.
@everyone -
instead of quoting huge posts, you can right-click the little page icon in the top left of posts and use
post # tags to make it easier. just a neat trick, not saying y'all have to do it.
Kaze did this same thing in Ragnarok Mafia ... He ended up being mafia. - he did? I'll go back and look. Regardless, and I hate doing self-meta, but I can go find games where I've replaced in or fallen behind early and not done as much work as I did with this game. Don't actually ask me to do this, I'm lazy.
I like the idea of T/S snapshots, but I don't know what to make of it since there's no legend. Are mafia at the bottom? Are the player pair/triplets significant? - town at top, scum at bottom. I'll denote if I find alignment-pairings. Also I'll suggest not EVERYONE do this because everyone giving their townreads constantly, just means scum know who to probably kill.
@Doc:
Is it ever safe for a Town player to assume, in a 12 player
game, how many people are in Mafia roles? I mean, is there a standard formula for how many scum roles to fill or is it entirely up to the mod?
In a balanced 12p/13p game, you'll have 2-3 scum. There are Serial Killers, Traitors, Survivors, and various other roles to screw with this. Typically, you want to give town about three mislynches before they lose (12p with three scum is a 9:3 ratio. A mislynch and single kill is 7:3 on Day 2, then 5:3, 3:3 and here you lose because scum force No Lynch. Three MLs.), but it depends on setup balance and stuff. I always go into a mini game (12/13, large game is >13) expecting three scum.
Hey Wraith, if you think GR is scum (even though I don't love the reason I see what you're getting at), wanna vote him with me? If you think I'm scum, you get me to bus my buddy, which is terrible D1. C'mon.
...after a nightkill or some poor towny else is lynched? I did think carefully, the bandwagon arguement is a 
Interesting defensive tone though. Agree that Wraith is likely Town.
Okay, I told myself I'm not going after GR. Not gonna do it. That's your guys's job, okay? I can't do it.
