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3 masons in a 9 player game would be terrible with only two mafia (but three mafia is still too much).
Vote RedNihilist.
Vote RedNihilist.
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Sent: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:00 amWhen did you target imopen2?
My inbox says that Manders confirmed it on 25/04/2016, 04.48 pm
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I didn't get Col K's ability but imopen's, I never claimed I didn't target anyone but I'm not surprising in Kraj lying, the last post from Stardust makes no sense in the context.
That's how you end up with Trump as a president.
From my point of view I'll just say that Kraj is either tunneling pretty bad or blatant scum, and I still can't clear Pedro.
Stardust just went back to the gray zone.
ham is crazy like a horse but he's town, and I really can't blame him for being paranoid in a Mafia game.
On GR I just have a gut feeling and you know that.
Vote Kraj, see you in ~10 hours.
That's how you end up with Trump as a president.
From my point of view I'll just say that Kraj is either tunneling pretty bad or blatant scum, and I still can't clear Pedro.
Stardust just went back to the gray zone.
ham is crazy like a horse but he's town, and I really can't blame him for being paranoid in a Mafia game.
On GR I just have a gut feeling and you know that.
Vote Kraj, see you in ~10 hours.
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Vote Count 2.2
Pedrobear (1): ( G_R )
RedNihilist (2): Kraj; Stardust
Kraj (1): RedNihilist
Not Voting (4): Pedrobear, hamfactorial
With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch
Let me know if I missed anything.
Pedrobear (1): ( G_R )
RedNihilist (2): Kraj; Stardust
Kraj (1): RedNihilist
Not Voting (4): Pedrobear, hamfactorial
With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch
Let me know if I missed anything.
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What I said was in response to Kraj and had nothing to do with my vote. Unfortunate that it happened on a page break.
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OK. Italy is 9 hours ahead of California, so you sent the action to Manders at 10 pm April 24 in my time zone. D2 started on April 25 for me.Sent: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:00 amWhen did you target imopen2?
My inbox says that Manders confirmed it on 25/04/2016, 04.48 pm
Did you submit the choice to Manders during N1?
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OK, so either you lied to me about the role PM or Manders screwed up. You shouldn't still be in my chat QT if you submitted at night.
Vote RedNihilist
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I never claimed I didn't target anyone but I'm not surprising in Kraj lying,
I'd also vote Red, and I'm curious if anyone here has anything interesting to report about him and anybody that he may have targeted last night.
I didn't target anybody, you racist.
Did you submit the choice to Manders during N1?
Despite the fact that you did, in fact, target someone, you're not lying, but I am?Yup
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OK, so seeing as how I find nothing about you townie, maybe I am tunneling. So I'm working on a PBPA and maybe I'll change my mind. In the mean time, question for you:
Indeed NightArcher was doomed no matter what. But why did you know NightArcher would flip scum? We know why Ham knew, but why did you know?If I was scum and NA was my teammate the last thing I'd want would be to have everyone's focus on me, as we both know he's doomed one way or the other AND he'd flip scum; you can refuge into WIFOM, but your whole argument is far-fetched.
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You're right about that targeting thing, I replied without thinking because I was angry for ham's question.
About N_A flipping scum, english is not even my first language, but "If I was scum and NA was my teammate [...] he'd flip scum" should be called "conditional sentence" and I don't think that's something we invented in Italy.
About N_A flipping scum, english is not even my first language, but "If I was scum and NA was my teammate [...] he'd flip scum" should be called "conditional sentence" and I don't think that's something we invented in Italy.
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unvote
I want Pedro and GR to un-lurk
I want Pedro and GR to un-lurk
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Hello there,
My little point of view of what's going on :
Red is highly probably scum, ham as some serious tracks on him. And his defense is very poor. Else is a bad player as I am, else is scum. And I do think he has more experience than me in Mafia games.
I have the feeling as strong as for Red scum that there is a third party is this game, otherwise it would have been unbalanced. But I have no idea of what are their goal and how many they are. Could be GR for example.
Vote Red
My little point of view of what's going on :
Red is highly probably scum, ham as some serious tracks on him. And his defense is very poor. Else is a bad player as I am, else is scum. And I do think he has more experience than me in Mafia games.
I have the feeling as strong as for Red scum that there is a third party is this game, otherwise it would have been unbalanced. But I have no idea of what are their goal and how many they are. Could be GR for example.
Vote Red
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Why do you say you're a bad player, Pedro?
Everyone better make sure they'll not run afoul of Rule 11 too. Count your Day 2 posts, people!
Everyone better make sure they'll not run afoul of Rule 11 too. Count your Day 2 posts, people!
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Because I was scum n°2 on everybody's list while I was town.
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Were you more active, would you have hammered me?
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Vote Count 2.3
RedNihilist (3): Kraj; Stardust; Pedrobear
Pedrobear (1): ( G_R )
Kraj (1): RedNihilist
Not Voting (4): hamfactorial
With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch
Let me know if I missed anything.
RedNihilist (3): Kraj; Stardust; Pedrobear
Pedrobear (1): ( G_R )
Kraj (1): RedNihilist
Not Voting (4): hamfactorial
With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch
Let me know if I missed anything.
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I do think so.Were you more active, would you have hammered me?
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Please elaborate on how town's win condition is more complicated. This game, specifically?The objective of this game is not to have everyone think you're town. Well, unless you're scum. Then that'll do a good approximation of your win condition. The town win condition is much more complicated.Because I was scum n°2 on everybody's list while I was town.
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Step 1: Find the liars. Step 2: Lynch the liars. Both of those steps are challenging, and in different ways, especially in a game like this where it's clear something else is going on, but you have no idea what that is.
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When will you start helping us find scum? You're the most experienced player here, but all you've done since the beginning of the day is claim to be confused by the setup.
Plus you said you were scum, which is shitty for us.
Vote Stardust
Plus you said you were scum, which is shitty for us.
Vote Stardust
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Hah, except I'm not. Red is scum. I went into some detail why I thought this, then you pointed out several lies to solidify that. Good enough for me. I want more information on what else we're facing before I start chasing shadows. Maybe it's nothing - all these assumptions are based on the weirdness of a 3-person mason group. Modgaming only goes so far, and the one thing we do know 100% is that NightArcher had a scum buddy - so I'm going to try to lynch him first, then carry on from there if required.
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Except I'm town.
Who's the second on your list?
Who's the second on your list?
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OK, that makes sense. I think I misread.About N_A flipping scum, english is not even my first language, but "If I was scum and NA was my teammate [...] he'd flip scum" should be called "conditional sentence" and I don't think that's something we invented in Italy.
You don't get to just revise what you say when you're caught in a lie.You're right about that targeting thing, I replied without thinking because I was angry for ham's question.
Another question for you. What did you see in the mason chat that made you suspicious of Ham?
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ham is 100% town.
Actually he's so town that I'm just going to blindly vote what he's going to vote.
I'm not going to answer any more question today, sorry.
@ham: I'm sorry to let you handle this scum on your own, but I've come up with something better to do.
I can't tell you anything more before tomorrow, though.
Actually he's so town that I'm just going to blindly vote what he's going to vote.
I'm not going to answer any more question today, sorry.
@ham: I'm sorry to let you handle this scum on your own, but I've come up with something better to do.
I can't tell you anything more before tomorrow, though.
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Probably Pedro. GR is a possibility, but I don't think so. I'm fairly sure Kraj is town, and I believe hamfactorial despite the weirdness. If you did flip town, though, I'd have to reevaluate based on your wagon as well.Except I'm town.
Who's the second on your list?
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ham is 100% town.
Actually he's so town that I'm just going to blindly vote what he's going to vote.
I'm not going to answer any more question today, sorry.
@ham: I'm sorry to let you handle this scum on your own, but I've come up with something better to do.
I can't tell you anything more before tomorrow, though.
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Where the fudge is GR?
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I don't understand the wording of his active power with regard to timing, but it seems that he's being upfront with how it works. His first reaction to my vote looked very suspicious, since hand-waiving away my (IMO) valid points just looked like caught scum to me.
The next day, however, he calmed down and discussed some behavioral things with me in QT, and replied to Kraj without histrionics. I've been in his position before, bring lynched as a townie, and his behavior reminds me of me.
He says he has a new plan, and I'm curious to see what that is. I expect him to post again soon and give us some better details.
He's not cleared in my mind, but I'm willing to see what he does today.
The next day, however, he calmed down and discussed some behavioral things with me in QT, and replied to Kraj without histrionics. I've been in his position before, bring lynched as a townie, and his behavior reminds me of me.
He says he has a new plan, and I'm curious to see what that is. I expect him to post again soon and give us some better details.
He's not cleared in my mind, but I'm willing to see what he does today.
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*after the trip
That explains why people keep coming over for chicken nuggets
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He says he has a new plan, and I'm curious to see what that is. I expect him to post again soon and give us some better details.
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OK. Since ham is confirmed, the other remaining townies have four people to look at. And there's likely a scum and a neutral in there. Right?
The way I see it, Red is more likely either town or neutral than scum (I could be wrong) but given the odds I think the scum is likely among the other 3. In a scale from town to scum:
Ham
Kraj
Red
Dust
Pedro
My vote is already where I feel it should be.
The way I see it, Red is more likely either town or neutral than scum (I could be wrong) but given the odds I think the scum is likely among the other 3. In a scale from town to scum:
Ham
Kraj
Red
Dust
Pedro
My vote is already where I feel it should be.
That explains why people keep coming over for chicken nuggets
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Could you please point out where you explain why Red is scum?Hah, except I'm not. Red is scum. I went into some detail why I thought this,
ham is 100% town.
Actually he's so town that I'm just going to blindly vote what he's going to vote.
I'm not going to answer any more question today, sorry
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As a townie, do you also avoid posting your own opinions, insult players and their cases instead of responding to them, repeatedly lie, and pledge to just barn other players instead of contributing? I really don't get this turnaround, but I'm thinking it through, so lemme ask you this: should I take your opinion of Red completely at face value, or should I be reading between the lines?The next day, however, he calmed down and discussed some behavioral things with me in QT, and replied to Kraj without histrionics. I've been in his position before, bring lynched as a townie, and his behavior reminds me of me.
If you feel that Red is either town or neutral, and therefore the scum is among Pedro, Stardust, and me, why do you rank me as townie just below Ham?OK. Since ham is confirmed, the other remaining townies have four people to look at. And there's likely a scum and a neutral in there. Right?
The way I see it, Red is more likely either town or neutral than scum (I could be wrong) but given the odds I think the scum is likely among the other 3. In a scale from town to scum:
Ham
Kraj
Red
Dust
Pedro
My vote is already where I feel it should be.
Also, please explain your reasons for voting Pedro.
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No, Red's behavior is still overall pretty poor this game.As a townie, do you also avoid posting your own opinions, insult players and their cases instead of responding to them, repeatedly lie, and pledge to just barn other players instead of contributing? I really don't get this turnaround, but I'm thinking it through, so lemme ask you this: should I take your opinion of Red completely at face value, or should I be reading between the lines?The next day, however, he calmed down and discussed some behavioral things with me in QT, and replied to Kraj without histrionics. I've been in his position before, bring lynched as a townie, and his behavior reminds me of me.
He's no longer a member of my QT, so I can confirm that he got into there by using his ability. Him entering my QT by some sort of passive scum ability can be ruled out, since he left after telling me that he wanted to use his Last Resort ability. I asked him, if town, to hammer himself if his acquired role was detrimental to town.
He's still here, so he either has a plan to help or he was scum all along.
I'm currently waiting for him to post again so I can decide whether to hammer or let him live.
Him being at L-1 for so long suggests that scum is on his wagon.
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I'm currently waiting for him to post again so I can decide whether to hammer or let him live.
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I can't tell you anything more before tomorrow, though.
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