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Postby DXI-Edge » Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:59 pm

Is your local store under a rock?

Do they have access to Internet.

Ari lax is playing the deck, but he's playing a list with 4 Swiftspear 2 snaps. I actually like his numbers and he's the first SwiftDelver player I've seen that combined good play with an almost optimal decklist.

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Postby Valdarith » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:12 pm

People at my LGS insist that U/R delver is not a viable deck in modern

I hope to prove them wrong soon
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:36 pm

It's not the best deck in the format or anything.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:06 am

I liked when a commentor said "he exaggerates his win rate" and MJ said "no, I fully believe he wins that much".

That MJ respect.
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Postby Valdarith » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:57 am

Yeah, I believe it too. Cruise/Dig is that busted, and with a good player it's unfair.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:04 am

Also people in paper haven't caught up - I'd be in the 60s online for sure.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:00 pm

I liked when a commentor said "he exaggerates his win rate" and MJ said "no, I fully believe he wins that much".

That MJ respect.
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Postby zemanjaski » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:21 am

Locked myself into the league top 8 with a 3-1 win over Twin.
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Postby zemanjaski » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:27 am

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Postby Calamity » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:50 am

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Postby zemanjaski » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:27 am

Flame Jab?

Sygg, Rivercuthroat?
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Postby rcwraspy » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:41 pm

Flame Jab?

Sygg, Rivercuthroat?
I like sygg but I think he belongs in a list with larger creature density. I think we're a little too reactionary for him.

Flame jab seems very expensive but may be Ok as a 1 of test card?
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Postby Sasky » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:23 pm

Not with 18-19 lands.
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Postby Mcdonalds » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:13 pm

People at my LGS insist that U/R delver is not a viable deck in modern

I hope to prove them wrong soon
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Postby zemanjaski » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:01 am

Are you thinking of flame javelin raspy?
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Postby Christen » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:25 am

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Postby Christen » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:26 am

On the other hand, that's the first time I saw an LGS have that sign ("Do not make comments or give advice").
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Postby zemanjaski » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:28 am

They thematically went with Treasure Cruise.

Might get Doctor Who tokens for Dig Through Time?
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Postby zemanjaski » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:28 am

The sign was because the match was a win and in for our league top 8.
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Postby zemanjaski » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:23 pm

Since KTK, according to my event history, I am 31-6-1 (82.89%)
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Postby zemanjaski » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:24 pm

And 5-1 in league (82%).
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Postby rcwraspy » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:35 pm

Are you thinking of flame javelin raspy?
No, jab. 1dmg for Red isn't a great return to start with and if you want it doing more you're effectively spending 2 and saccing one you spent for it. Like if shard volley was 2cmc, sac a land, deal 1.

I also think it matches up poorly. You'd want that effect early but we want to hit our first 3-4 land drops.

Maybe 1 of in the board for mirror and Affinity but I don't really see it in other matchups.
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Postby zemanjaski » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:40 pm

Yeah I was thinking it might be a good 1-of in the board for said matchups (in the electrickery spot).
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Postby rcwraspy » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:43 pm

Yeah I was thinking it might be a good 1-of in the board for said matchups (in the electrickery spot).
I don't hate that. Gives more game than electrickery against people who land 1 threat and protect. Likely worse against a spammed board.
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Postby zemanjaski » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:45 pm

Yeah; Electrickery is basically the only way to catch up against an active-Pyro; so might be worth it just for that purpose.
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Postby rcwraspy » Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:31 pm

zem what were your conclusions on Sygg?

I like the card a lot, but in this list it seems win-more. We're not putting out bursts of damage until after we've turned the corner, at which point we're already winning. Like I said, I like it a lot in a more aggressive deck where even without a T1 Delver your plan is still getting in the red zone early and often.
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Postby zemanjaski » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:42 pm

It's not very good :'(
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:14 am

My SB is currently

1 Batterskull
2 Blood Moon
1 Combust
2 Dispel
3 Dragon's Claw
1 Electrickery
3 Magma Spray
1 Negate
1 Shatterstorm

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Postby Nezeru » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:41 am

Why so many Magma Spray?

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Postby PrimalBurn » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:46 am

Looks good Z in my local meta I'm always playing against bogles so I'm probably adding spellskites do y'all have any
other suggestions for the matchup or is that good enough without taking up too much SB space

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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:50 am

Why so many Magma Spray?
great against burn, affinity, the mirror, pod, and random tier 1.5/2 decks you may see. Like Soul Sisters or something. I assume with Dig/Cruise Zem feels like the deck can beat an attrition/midrange/control matchup so he's shoring up the aggro match that can steal a win before our engines get going.
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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:50 am

Looks good Z in my local meta I'm always playing against bogles so I'm probably adding spellskites do y'all have any
other suggestions for the matchup or is that good enough without taking up too much SB space
Others don't like it but if Bogles is big in your meta I like Hibernation.
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Postby PrimalBurn » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:10 am

Good call I'll give it a shot

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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:32 am

Engineered Explosives is good too.
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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:34 am

Engineered Explosives is good too.
good point. For some reason I only ever think of ee if I'm in 3+ colours.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:38 am

Why so many Magma Spray?
What raspy said; it's also great vs Merfolk and Hatebears.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:08 am

Engineered Explosives is good too.
good point. For some reason I only ever think of ee if I'm in 3+ colours.
It is much better there, to be fair.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:13 am

play a Venser
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:19 am

Too expensive (but yes, sweet).
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Postby BrainsickHater » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:53 am

How do you SB to beat darkblast? I saw it mentioned in a comment and I can't think of the cards you would want.

EDIT: Do you go so far as to run GY hate like Relic or Crypt? That seems excessive.


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