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Post #761 by zemanjaski » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:18 am

Batterskull went back in my SB for Darkblast.
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Post #762 by Sasky » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:04 pm

Board in Batterskull or Keranos, whichever you run.
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Post #763 by zemanjaski » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:14 pm

Won my quarterfinal. Top 4 is now 3 Delver (me and two friends on the same deck) and 1 Burn. ^_^
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Post #764 by Purp » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:07 pm

zemanjaski » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:14 am wrote:Won my quarterfinal. Top 4 is now 3 Delver (me and two friends on the same deck) and 1 Burn. ^_^


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Post #765 by PrimalBurn » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:35 pm

I know I'm late to the party but finally played dig in place of cruise. Equally ridiculous
and in some cases I preferred it.

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Post #766 by zemanjaski » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:18 pm

Maybe but I think we will end up splitting tbh.
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Post #767 by Mr. Metronome » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:22 am

I'm really hoping treasure cruise is banned but dig is left alone just before GP Vancouver, since then I can just play dtt/snap and crush people who dismissed the deck as dead.

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Post #768 by zemanjaski » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:26 am

I firmly believe Dig plus Snapcaster is just stronger; I'm of the opinion this will be like Pyromancer / Eidolon in standard last format.
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Post #769 by DXI-Edge » Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:25 pm

Have you tried 1/2 swiftspears with that version just to try with another delver?

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Post #770 by DXI-Edge » Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:26 pm

I'm also debating going to 18 land in that version but I'm not aure

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Post #771 by PrimalBurn » Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:44 pm

I might be with you on the hopes of cruise getting banned metronome lol
I look forward to showing how equally ridiculous dig is after everyone dismisses the deck.
Gotta stay ahead of the curve someway right lol

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Post #772 by Nezeru » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:33 pm

This mono blue deck seems very interesting and original, just thought you guys might appreciate it.

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/mo ... ino#online

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Post #773 by Platypus » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:40 pm

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Post #774 by Nezeru » Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:50 pm

So, this deck is named after the Delve cards, right? I'll do some Delving with my Modern Delver deck?

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Post #775 by hamfactorial » Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:18 am

Yo dawg we heard you like delving so we put Delve in your Delver deck so you can Delve while you Delve.

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Post #776 by Purp » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:58 pm

do u even delve bro
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Post #777 by DXI-Edge » Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:26 am

You guys are going to want Affinity hate that doesn't cost 1 mana.

As someone who plays Affinity, I'm running 3 Chalice of the Void's in my sideboard now, and that card is a beating.

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Post #778 by zemanjaski » Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:36 am

Is Shatterstorm too slow? I'm strongly considering abandoning SB blood moon already so would be in the market for alternatives anyway.
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Post #779 by DXI-Edge » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:31 pm

That's what my inclination was to do. The way the meta is shaping up, the decks I want blood moon vs. I never really need it, it's just a niche pick.

I'm moving down to 1 for a shatterstorm I think.

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Post #780 by Purp » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:48 pm

Is overloading vandalblast possible in modern?
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Post #781 by GoblinWarchief » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:28 pm

Shattering spree can answer chalice of the void because copies are not cast and is versatile because you can cast it for any amount of mana. Smash to smithereens fits in the aggressive gameplan of the deck (although the dig/snap lists are less aggressive) and is a card i like because i can side it in when i think my opponent will probably have some random annoying artifacts but i know it could stay in my hand for a while without targets .... the possibility of dealing 3 damages makes me feel less bad to side in a card that could be dead. Shatterstorm is obviously the best against affinity but 4 mana are 4 mana. If you fear ensoul artifact on a darksteel citadel you may consider shattering blow, which is also a nice answer to wurmcoil engine.

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Post #782 by DXI-Edge » Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:03 pm

It is, I've done it before.

Smash seems good

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Post #783 by Nezeru » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:01 am

I like Shattering Spree best by far. Vandalblast never gets around Chalice even when overloaded.

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Post #784 by MattT » Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:19 pm

zemanjaski » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:18 am wrote:Batterskull went back in my SB for Darkblast.
About Darkblast.

It being Dredge 3 coupled with Delve in Cruise & Dig plus the new Bloodghast_1.2 (Bloodsoaked Champion) led me to experiment with UB Delver.

Pro
Darkblast is faster Cruise/Dig fodder and reusable removal fitting the meta (=UR Delver, Affinity, etc.)
Disfigure hits Burns critters.
Bloodghast
Bloodsoaked Champion
Better removal suite
Greater threat persistance
(Odd revelation: Dimir Charm flips Delver, hard counters Cruise and hits most Tier 1 critters.)


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No burn to the head.
No direct artifact hate

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Post #785 by DXI-Edge » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:31 pm

Also no young pyromancer which is the reason to play the dexk

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Post #786 by MattT » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:37 pm

MD Darkblast and mehaps even Bileblight disagrees.

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Post #787 by zemanjaski » Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:09 am

Disfigure, Bloodghast and Bloodsoaked Champions are not good reasons to be in black.

It's also not about writing out Alistair of which archetype has more positive attributes, because that assumes that they're equally weighted, which they're not; Lightning Bolt is the best spell in the format and Pyromancer might be the best creature; no card on black is close to the power lever of either. That's not to say that there isn't reason to consider black, but it's not for some crappy creatures.
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Post #788 by zemanjaski » Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:11 am

I mean "better removal suite" and Disfigure are just non-starter arguments mate.

Dark Blast, Doom Blade and Dimir Charm are gas though.
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Post #789 by zemanjaski » Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:19 am

Grixis Charm would be gas too.
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Post #790 by Valdarith » Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:54 am

Thank God Zem posted so I didn't have to.

Grixis Delver is a legit consideration. UB is not.
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Post #791 by Valdarith » Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:56 am

Darkblast, Terminate, Dimir Charm, and Rakdos Charm? Yes please.
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Post #792 by MattT » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:11 am

Grixis then mehaps. No reason to blow a gasket kids.

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Post #793 by DXI-Edge » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:43 pm

The more you insult people the less likely we are to listen to you.

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Post #794 by DXI-Edge » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:44 pm

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Post #795 by zemanjaski » Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:07 am

Play nice kids

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Post #796 by zemanjaski » Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:40 pm

Won a modern event today
2-0 vs Cruel Control
2-0 vs TarmoTwin
2-0 vs Melira Pod
2-0 vs Merfolk
2-0 vs Affinity
2-0 vs UWR Control

SB was:
1 Batterskull
2 Blood Moon
2 Combust
2 Dispel
1 Electrickery
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1 Shatterstorm
2 Threads of Disloyalty
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Post #797 by Valdarith » Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:31 pm

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Post #798 by rcwraspy » Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:48 pm

With bg's decline thanks to treasure cruise and dig, is it time to drop the threads of disloyalty? How often are they coming in now?
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Post #799 by zemanjaski » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:40 pm

Jund and UWR are the two most popular decks here. I'd say each is still 10% of our meta.

And yeah zero games dropped, zero fucks given.
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Post #800 by zemanjaski » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:41 pm

Like we've collectively discussed, sideboards should reflect your meta; I don't think mine is exemplary of anything.
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