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Post #41321 by photodyer » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:10 am

Happy to see the functional reprint of O Ring (though I'm sad over the fact that it means my altered full-art O Rings are languishing in a binder), but not happy about the fact that it gives Esper Control another ubiquitious tool. The modular Act of Treason is also pretty spicy...in long, grindy board stalls that's going to be a devastating card.
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Post #41322 by Calamity » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:43 am

Kazekirimaru » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:02 am wrote:
Calamity » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:26 am wrote:
Kazekirimaru » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:54 pm wrote:Nah, eight strings is ostentatious. Seven strings is skating the borderline.

Jeff Loomis/Tosin Abasi disagree

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Post #41323 by Kazekirimaru » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:19 am

It just sounds like they need a real bassist to me.
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Post #41324 by Alex » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:28 am

Purp » Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:34 am wrote:Anyone coming to GP Atlanta let me know! I know all the hotspots. Unfortunately the Civic Center is not located around good bars/strip clubs. I recommend staying in a hotel near midtown, highlands or buckhead. No matter where you choose where you chose the civic center is only 15 mins up I-85 with no traffic.

I'm pretty late to the party, but yeah, we should go out after the GP. You missed a good time here in Charlotte, after the Open we went to Whiskey Warehouse and got shitwrecked after none of us cashed. It was good times, and the vagina to dick ratio was at 1:1 somehow. Good times were had.

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Post #41325 by Alex » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:38 am

PS: Sorry I haven't been around. I've been playtesting like crazy and watching a lot of Archer.

Not sure what deck I'm going to be on going forward. I've tried basically every deck in the format right now and I haven't really liked any of them. My least favorite thus far has been UW, but probably because I don't like going to time on the mill plan in game 1. I play at a pretty brisk pace but even so, if Elspeth doesn't resolve and you have to go on the Elixir plan the game is super boring.

Also tried all of the Monster variants (RUG, Naya, Bant, Jund, GR) and was just not a fan. The deck plays itself.

Mono black was alright and certainly feels like it might win a lot of games in spite of my ability as a player, but I just didn't enjoy it.

Played the mono red as well as the RG aggro lists. They're sweet and I think they're probably even really good because of how prevalent UW and Esper are around
Charlotte, but the deck is borderline unplayable in a field of mono black.

RW burn is good but boring and it loses really badly to any lifegain that resolves without Skullcrack in hand, which isn't where you want to be.

I MIGHT actually start playing Walter White again. The deck does powerful things and it is probably even well positioned since your mad matchups are basically gone. (It was tough to beat Monsters but the deck isn't seeing as much play now.) If I were going to an event with byes I would almost 100% assuredly play it because of how good it is against Esper. :D

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Post #41326 by MattT » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:46 am

Anyone think there´s a possibility of a Delver'esque UB Tempo deck now? With all these good ca giving Bestow critters Lazav is looking more and more like St Traft and the MBA curve itself is nothing to complain about. Dimir has 8 cantrips which is a pre-req for such a deck imho.

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4 Pain Seer
3 Herald of Torment
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4 Cremate
4 Thoughtseize

13 Counters and Removals to fit the meta

21 Land

Vs Aggro: aggro-control up to 3 cmc. Race and Remove.
Vs Midrange: remove/counter & copy their fatties with Lazav.
Vs Control: build up Lazav with Bestowed critters after the initial race.

Quicken + Thoughtseize is fun if nothing else...

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Post #41327 by Dechs Kaison » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:46 am

Maverick » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:51 am wrote:28088 in 2048.

Or is no one doing that anymore.


I am. That game is maddening, especially since (I think it was Jack) one guy said the goal is to make the 2048 block with the lowest score you could. I got somewhere around a flat 20k and I was really happy.

My other goal is to make a 4096 block. I haven't gotten there yet. Highest score for me is 34k.


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Post #41328 by Kaitscralt » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:27 pm

You shouldn't ever have to mill your opponent out with control. That's a very fringe strategy. The Elixir is there to get your finishers back, but even so, you should usually have one left in your deck by the time you stabilize.
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Post #41329 by Stardust » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:07 pm

Dechs Kaison » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:46 am wrote:
Maverick » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:51 am wrote:28088 in 2048.

Or is no one doing that anymore.


I am. That game is maddening, especially since (I think it was Jack) one guy said the goal is to make the 2048 block with the lowest score you could. I got somewhere around a flat 20k and I was really happy.

My other goal is to make a 4096 block. I haven't gotten there yet. Highest score for me is 34k.

My wife is now addicted to this game. In showing her my strategy I got so close to that 4096! My high score is 36-something.
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Post #41330 by hamfactorial » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:23 pm

I lost all interest in 2048 after I got the 2048 block (such ennui, much hipster, wow). About the only game I've ever enjoyed trying to 100% was Super Meat Boy.

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Post #41331 by RedNihilist » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:40 pm

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Post #41332 by hamfactorial » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:20 pm

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Post #41333 by magicdownunder » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:59 pm

Ham can ya PM a retards guide in changing your mat on MODO? I'll like too direct some traffic here (I also attempted too make a mini animation (it didn't turn out well)).
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Post #41335 by Valdarith » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:57 pm

Added more decks to my brewing thread, one of which is a janky FNM brew with the other one having an undetermined power level. Come check them out!

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Post #41336 by rcwraspy » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:10 pm

so some of you know i'm taking law classes at night. i had my first oral arguments today. i had to really resist the urge to say "i'm going to blow you away with my oral skills."
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Post #41337 by Dechs Kaison » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:03 pm

Reading Dresden. In the middle of book seven, Dead Beat, laughing my ass of again.

Just some dialogue
Thomas: "How bad is it?"
Dresden: "They drafted me."
Bob: "That's bad, all right."

Actual Spoiler
Dresden is a fucking Warden. WTF?


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Post #41338 by Kaitscralt » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:24 pm

zem you should change your cfb picture, it's all blurry compared to everyone elses
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Post #41339 by Yarpus » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:11 am

Spoiler Review

Aegis of the Gods: decent. Stops Thoughtseize and Boros Charm. <3
Banishing Light: yay, Oblivion Ring!
Godsend: seems like a Legacy material for Stoneforge Mystic.

Font of Fortunes: Finally some early game draw.
Sigiled Starfish: Nice wall that fixes your top all day.

Gnarled Scarhide: Another 2/x for 1 for Black.

Eidolon of the Great Revel: decent hatebear.
Dictate of the Twin Gods: woah, that's an actual wincon. Drop this, drop two Boros Charms, drop opponent's jaw.
Harness by Force: after season of playing with Act of Treason, we finally get something fine. I'd say really fine.
Prophetic Flamespeaker: ugh, powerlevel is here, but not sure if it's playable at all. It screams "give me Madcap Skills!"
Spite of Mogis: that's kinda cool removal for burn.

Athreos, God of Passage: welcome our new overlord. This guy gives White Weenie everything it wants.
Difficult decisions for opponent? Reach? Not folding down to Verdicts and stuff? Hell yes. WB Weenie is going to be the new shit on the block.
Disciple of Deceit: he seems to be Legacy/Modern playable for some combos.
Iroas, God of Victory: great card but not a great format for her.

Btw. Yo, I have no fucking internet for 2 weeks at my new house. It fucking sucks.
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Post #41340 by DroppinSuga » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:37 am

yo dawg, play GB Dredge.
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Post #41341 by photodyer » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:55 am

Dechs Kaison » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:03 pm wrote:Reading Dresden. In the middle of book seven, Dead Beat, laughing my ass of again.

Just some dialogue
Thomas: "How bad is it?"
Dresden: "They drafted me."
Bob: "That's bad, all right."

Actual Spoiler
Dresden is a fucking Warden. WTF?



If you can believe it, Dechs, it only gets better.

Also, don't miss reading all the side stories that have come out in various anthologies...they are all character-driven and add depth to the characters involved. Most of them are collected in the published "Side Jobs", but there have been one or more extra since its publication IIRC.
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Post #41342 by Platypus » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:34 pm

Dechs Kaison » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:46 pm wrote:
Maverick » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:51 am wrote:28088 in 2048.

Or is no one doing that anymore.


I am. That game is maddening, especially since (I think it was Jack) one guy said the goal is to make the 2048 block with the lowest score you could. I got somewhere around a flat 20k and I was really happy.

My other goal is to make a 4096 block. I haven't gotten there yet. Highest score for me is 34k.


Aaand I'm done! Just got the 4096, with 44k score so far (not finished yet).
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Post #41343 by Wraith223 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:38 pm

Saw the rest of the spoiled cards. Was left wonder where the rest of playable cards were? I really thought Daybreak Coronet was going to make the set. To many enchantments are WAY to over costed. White got an early christmas for sealed/draft.
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Post #41344 by Valdarith » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:40 pm

The rest of the spoilers were mainly Limited fodder, which is fine because the cards spoiled before that were so strong for Constructed play.
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Post #41345 by hamfactorial » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:39 pm

The art for this set is really good, I'm checking it all out on mythic spoiler. The art on Deserter's Quarters is a reference to the Brazen Bull, a medieval torture device. :gonk:

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Post #41346 by Jonnymagic » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:45 pm

The full block limited is going to be awesome. I'm actually excited doing the sealed ptq in tampa and then the gp in atlanta having seen this set spoiled. Full block sealed is always the most fun for me too =D.
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Post #41347 by Purp » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:01 pm

Company bowling tourney got a little rowdy yesterday. Turned into cocaine, hash and strip club after party. My girlfriend picked me up at 3 am. Gooood Friday my niggas..
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Post #41348 by DarthStabber » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:33 pm

Purp » Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:01 am wrote:Company bowling tourney got a little rowdy yesterday. Turned into cocaine, hash and strip club after party. My girlfriend picked me up at 3 am. Gooood Friday my niggas.

Sounds like an interesting company if that's the company bowling tourney.
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You're like the least gay member of this clan.

And that's counting the fact that you voluntarily have sex with men.

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Post #41349 by Purp » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:43 pm

Obviously not at the tournament! haha.
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Post #41350 by Self Medicated » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:02 pm

Swedish House Mafia followed by a Diplo remix of Calvin Harris has made this a good day.
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Post #41351 by photodyer » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:35 pm

It seems the only appropriate strategy for Journey PR is "White, please"...The pool is 2-1-2 plus your seeded pack, so white seems the best bet for a primary. Black looks good as well, but it was weaker in the early block thus best to hope for as a strong secondary. All these enchantments and pumps mean that any color with the right cards can be strong synergistically, but white looks to range from good to insane.
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Post #41352 by Valdarith » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:39 pm

Still going red because I give no fucks.

Also, red has a lot of good removal and a strong suite of aggressive creatures. I'll pick red and hope to get a good red or blue pool.
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Post #41353 by Kaitscralt » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:45 pm

Galspanic says white is right

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Post #41354 by Kaitscralt » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:47 pm

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Post #41355 by Self Medicated » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:06 pm

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Post #41356 by Midnight_v » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:29 pm

Valdarith » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:39 pm wrote:Still going red because I give no fucks.

Also, red has a lot of good removal and a strong suite of aggressive creatures. I'll pick red and hope to get a good red or blue pool.

:jam:

I think... I'm kind of unhappy with a lot of things I"m seeing in this set, but its awesome to follow that mindset:
"I give no fucks, I'm going with red."

...and on that day not a single fuck was given. . .
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aggressive bullshit doesn't make you smart, it makes you an asshole." - Lightning Dolt

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Post #41357 by Kaitscralt » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:53 pm

nevermind the ram
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Post #41358 by LP, of the Fires » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:54 pm

Sorry I haven't been around. Been really sick. Missed all week of work and I don't think I've eaten anything in 2 days.

Having said that, new set looks cool. I may actually enjoy a sealed PTQ.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Post #41359 by Kaitscralt » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:55 pm

nobody noticed
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Post #41360 by Khaospawn » Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:15 pm

My band is playing another show next Sunday (the 27th). We're gonna close with Iron Maiden's The Trooper.

Make some fucking noise!
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