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Postby Valdarith » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:30 am

I think Jeskai can be tuned to beat Abzan now that we know what the deck looks like. Reprisal, Glare of Heresy, Disdainful Stroke, etc are all cards.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:40 am

I'll probably do something like take McClarens deck and instead of the angers add 1 seeker and 1 disdainful stroke to the main to start testing with.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:41 am

It's such BS that only control decks need an established meta to be tuned. There ya go listen to Val.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:42 am

And the Abzan Aggro deck is just amazing. 8 2s, 4 herald of torment to go with your rhino shenangigans is dope.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Valdarith » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:21 am

So I just finished a KTK Release draft and got two copies of everything I drafted...
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:37 am

Apparently every magic player proposed at the PT.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby RedNihilist » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:13 am

And the Abzan Aggro deck is just amazing. 8 2s, 4 herald of torment to go with your rhino shenangigans is dope.
Rakshasa Deathdealer, Fleecemane Lion and Herald felt way more powerful than the usual Caryatid into Courser boredomness :dance:

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Postby TBuzzsaw » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:22 am

It's such a confidence booster to see a deck I put together on week one being nearly identical to one that made top 8 at PT. I was really starting to doubt myself considering my performance since rotation has been subpar.
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Postby Tyrael » Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:52 pm

Silence the Believers / counterspells are good.
Do you think Esper is viable or is the UB control deck in itself powerful enough to deal with the metagame? Ivan Floch really seemed to struggle against 'aggro' (well) strategies...

I'm also sad to see no copies of Empty The Pits this weekend :(
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Postby Jack » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:06 pm

Empty the Pits is BB away from being playable.
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Postby Purp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:57 pm

Play 4 Hushwing, play 3 Glare, check. Suspension Field and Blight are not efficient answers to Rhino (erase, and blight, utter end)

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:03 pm

Play 4 Hushwing, play 3 Glare, check. Suspension Field and Blight are not efficient answers to Rhino (erase, and blight, utter end)

Straskys list is so good.
Glare is the best suggestion I've heard all day.

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Postby BlakLanner » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:04 pm

Sounds like a good plan given that it also takes out Sorin, Elspeth, Ajani, and Roc.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:46 pm

Has relevant targets vs Jeskai as well. Closest thing to a doom blade rigyt now lol.

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Postby Purp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:54 pm

Glare, Reprisal or Pillar of Light. Suspension Field and B-Light are also answer, better in G1 than post-board. Pick your poison.
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Postby GoblinWarchief » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:33 pm

Is aggro viable at all in this format ? I don't consider aggro jeskai wins or abzan (deathdealer/lion) that play ZERO one drops. The only aggro list i saw is the r/w heroic soldiers. We must do something about this :)

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Postby Purp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:31 pm

Both the token deck and brads deck seem legit, the idea of "going wide" is where you want to be if you are "aggro".
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Postby Purp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:12 pm

Lax finally got lei'd.

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Postby Purp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:17 pm

Interesting 4Color Aggro list that won a "States"

[deck]

Creatures (24)

4 Ashcloud Phoenix
4 Fleecemane Lion
4 Heir of the Wilds
4 Mantis Rider
2 Rattleclaw Mystic
2 Sagu Mauler
4 Savage Knuckleblade

Planeswalkers (2)

2 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker

Lands (24)

1 Mountain
4 Battlefield Forge
4 Frontier Bivouac
4 Mana Confluence
4 Mystic Monastery
1 Shivan Reef
3 Temple of Plenty
3 Yavimaya Coast

Spells (10)

4 Jeskai Charm
2 Lightning Strike
4 Stoke the Flames

Sideboard
2 Suspension Field
2 Deflecting Palm
3 Magma Spray
3 Negate
3 Arc Lightning
2 Glare of Heresy

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Postby Purp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:36 pm

The photo is from WoTC, but the horrible type job is from SCG.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:40 pm

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Postby Self Medicated » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:48 pm

So is anyone seriously playing Mardu Aggro? The PT results didn't give me any hope for the deck.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:11 pm

There were only 2 Mardu decks in the top decks. One was midrange, one was walkers.

Aggro is pretty bad when you have to deal with 0/3 hexproof walls and 2/4s that gain life.

You have to go big or go wide or both.

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Postby Purp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:36 pm

Mardu with hordeling outburst instead of rabblemaster seems good.
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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:49 pm

re: Ari's demeanor.

I was rooting for him the entire way. He shows up at my LGS quite a lot. I've played against him a few times now in various formats. Whether in victory or defeat he's always been gracious. He's just a tad socially awkward and knows he's both very intelligent and very good at the game. Considering the attitudes of the majority of the MTG community, any resentment is likely people seeing a piece of themselves they don't like.
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Postby Purp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:55 pm

Ari trolls his opponent during each game. idk why ya'll hink he is just being friendly.
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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:58 pm

he's done that to me. I never thought he was trolling me. I always just thought he was thinking outloud. :shrug:
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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:59 pm

I mean, I know that the events I've played against him are nothing compared to the Pro Tour Top 8. But he was no different than he's always been. That's just how he plays. Everybody's different.
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Postby Self Medicated » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:59 pm

Mardu with hordeling outburst instead of rabblemaster seems good.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:06 pm

Ari trolls his opponent during each game. idk why ya'll hink he is just being friendly.
That's mostly just thinking out loud. I used to do the same thing all the time, and I still say what I think my opponents plays are going to be half the time.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Purp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:14 pm

I would promptly tell you to close your mouth because your breath is hot.
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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:16 pm

I would promptly tell you to close your mouth because your breath is hot.
At this point I'd turn it into trolling. 1000%. If I'm innocently thinking out loud and my opponent shows that it puts them on tilt? Oh boy am I going to take advantage of that.
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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:25 pm

This format needs Intangible Virtue.
dictate of heliod is slow but not bad.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:31 pm

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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:33 pm

Considering the attitudes of the majority of the MTG community, any resentment is likely people seeing a piece of themselves they don't like.
Lol what?
Ari's getting heat for things MANY (if not most) mtg players do. It's hypocritical.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:41 pm

I was rooting for Ari because of how excited that dude got. When he topdecked that Elspeth, that was a great moment.
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Postby Tyrael » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:42 pm

Ari trolls his opponent during each game. idk why ya'll hink he is just being friendly.
That's mostly just thinking out loud. I used to do the same thing all the time, and I still say what I think my opponents plays are going to be half the time.
I'm curious, are you allowed to you ask an opponent to stop doing that?
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Postby Valdarith » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:43 pm

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Postby DroppinSuga » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:47 pm

To my Southern brethren, I'll be moving to the Charlotte area in two weeks. My wife is down there at this moment finding us a home. I think we'll be living in the Mooresville, NC area, but it depends on where she can find a place.
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Postby hamfactorial » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:10 pm

This is why everyone should play MTGO instead. No need to interact with your subhuman opponents!


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