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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:19 am

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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:24 am

I feel exactly the opposite about the burn vs. affinity matchup. I lose that matchup every time. I've been testing for two weeks against random MODO daily winning decks and burn is hard as shit to beat. Everything else feels up in the air.
In all super seriousness, what is giving you problems? Affinity is actually tough for me for several reasons. When I have a hand consisting of Forked Bolt, Searing BXXXX, and Grim Lavamncer, it is sometimes easy. Postboard, (when I was playing it) Firedancer just won me games I had no business winning.

On the other hand, I've been beaten silly by the intial turn 1-2 hand-dump followed by an Ensoul or Plating and could never recover. At times, Affinity can race far better than Burn can. ESPECIALLY when Ravager is involved.
You have to have a certain hand to beat burn because they just 1-for-1 you until you're out of gas. You can't keep normal hands, it has to be mega-aggro. They run out of gas too but sometimes if they just play control and kill your guys while hitting you with a Goblin Guide you just lose like that and it sucks.

On the flip side they literally can't beat an Ensoul'd Vault Skirge. So it just depends.

I like the Mana Leak build better because it's better against decks that matter more. I'll play Delver and Ascendancy way more than I'll play burn at a tournament, unless this Treasure Cruise build catches on I guess.
A smart Burn player will know to play the control role because it is the only way to beat Affinity, with the small exception being the OOPS ALL BOLTS! hand (which is actually rare). However, Burn has its advantages in postboard when it gets to bring in Searing Blood and Smash and whatever else.

The Game 1's are actually the hardest since the Burn player wants to keep a hand that will deal 20 quickly. It's just that Affinity can usually win that race better. For example, in Game 1's, a Burn player may keep a triple Lava Spike hand with a Goblin Guide because (1) it's a great hand for counting to 20 and (2) it's very good against the majority of the field (just not against Affinity). These hands are a snap-keep, but they do little against things like an Ensoul'd Skirge or an early Ravager + Plating. In my experience, I've beaten every Game 1 vs Affinity when they have a very slow hand. Other times I get beat very fast, but I do have a great advantage for Games 2 and 3. But even then, the position changes in Game 3 and that can make all the difference sometimes.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:47 am

Alex, Khaos.

Get a room.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:33 pm

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Another terrible and humorless cartoon from Cardboard Crack? No thank you.
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Postby Jamie » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:41 pm

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GET IT?

BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET DRUNK, SOMETIMES YOU DO STUPID THINGS, AND THEN WAKE UP NOT REMEMBERING THEM.

BUT SOMETIMES THERE IS EVIDENCE OF YOUR ACTIONS FROM THE NIGHT BEFORE, AND YOU'RE CONFUSED BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOU DON'T REMEMBER THE PREVIOUS NIGHT.

IT WAS THE BASIS OF THE MOVIE SERIES "THE HANGOVER" STARRING BRADLY COOPER, ED HELMS, AND ZACH GALIFIANAKIS.

BUT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MAGIC PLAYER, HE WOULD HAVE BOUGHT RARE AND EXPENSIVE MAGIC CARDS WHEN DRUNK.

GET IT?
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Get it?

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Postby Mcdonalds » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:30 pm

I thought it was funny

Course I know people like that (owner of the place I play legacy at, found out he had two tabernacles one day, not sure how he got them but he isn't questioning it)

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Postby BlakLanner » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:17 pm

The comics are definitely hit or miss but I still find "Forgive me, Mountain, for I have betrayed you" hilarious. Then again, the fact that I went to a UWr control deck just a few days before that comic came out likely has a lot to do with it.
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Postby Stardust » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:35 pm

I thought about making a t-shirt back in the days of the RtR pre-release with a close up of Niv-Mizzet's head with the following text:

Hello. Izzet me you're looking for?

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Postby Purp » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:56 pm

This guy ported over the Modern Ascendency deck and 4-0d a legacy daily.

http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/commen ... ust_40d_a/
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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:14 pm

Alex, Khaos.

Get a room.
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Like, I don't find Jeff Dunham funny at all, and often times I do think "I don't understand how anyone can find him funny."
Fuck that guy. There is nothing good about who he is or what he does.
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Postby Purp » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:19 pm

Tosh.0, not funny.
How I met your mother, not funny.
Late night talk shows, not funny.
Big Bang, not funny.
Key and Peele, funny.
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Postby Purp » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:03 pm

Funny when I can watch the 2 minute second off of buzzfeed a day later. Waiting the 45 mins of terrible banter and failed puns to get to Mean Tweets, not worth it.
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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:07 pm

Tosh.0, not funny.
Key and Peele, funny.
I based all my Hearthstone deck names after the substitute teacher sketch. I call my paladin "A A Ron Balakay".

I agree about Tosh.O not being funny, but there's something about Daniel Tosh's standup that I find hilarious. Happy Thoughts is pretty great.
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Postby Christen » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:49 pm

Not everyone has the same sense of humor. And anyone stating "your sense of humor is shit" is just stating an opinion.
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Postby hamfactorial » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:03 pm

And not in the funny way like Ham.
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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:08 pm

I agree Tosh is a tool. He's pretty much a gigantic douche. I fucking hate Tosh.O, but his standup is fucking great.
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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:20 pm

To date, no one has even gotten close to the sheer excellence of UGMadness.
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Originally posted by Galspanic on MTGS
I would still like to see the posts sent over to ( N_S ) and have the Salvation Gutter archived away and replaced with a link to MTGC.
Thank you for all the lies. Another fine display of integrity by iridium :thumbsup:

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Postby Jack » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:09 pm

I like the first part of Tosh.0, but the skits are pretty bad.

The point is that Cardboard Crack isn't even comedy. Most of the time, there is no joke at all. At best, there's a setup with no punch line.
Yeah Cardboard Crack is bad, but to be fair to the guy, he's come a long way from the beginning. He's said a few times that he isn't funny naturally, he's learning. I can respect that.
It would be funny if you didn't hear the same jokes whenever you play Magic. It's really just whatever talk you'd expect to be thrown around a game store that week, but rather than hearing it through people you know, you get stick figures.
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Postby Platypus » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:12 pm

So Izzet puns are bad, and Cardboard Crack is crap...what is funny then? Please don't say Adam Sandler...
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Postby Purp » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:25 pm

Stop looking at me Swan
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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:28 pm

So Izzet puns are bad, and Cardboard Crack is crap...what is funny then? Please don't say Adam Sandler...
We already said it. UGMadness. The old site even went up again a few years ago so you can browse the archives.
http://www.ugmadness.net/
You even get your stereotypical FoS player in that comic :tongue:
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Thank you for all the lies. Another fine display of integrity by iridium :thumbsup:

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Postby Platypus » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:18 pm

I didn't think UGMadness was that good when I read it back in the days... :shrug:

Picked a few random comic right now, but they did nothing for me.
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Postby Stardust » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:22 pm

This one was kinda funny.

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Postby Platypus » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:25 pm

:/ :slant: :confused2:

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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:37 pm

You think Cardboard Crack is funny, your opinion on everything is null and void.
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby RedNihilist » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:59 pm

Go read http://www.5colorcontrol.com/noshyfts/, you'll find Cardboard Crack very funny.
Hell, you'll find even the death notices funny.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:02 pm

I think we've established that the problem is there are 0 funny magic webcomics
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby Mcdonalds » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:30 pm

You think Cardboard Crack is funny, your opinion on everything is null and void.
You like skyrim, you're about as useful as a vivisected rabbit

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Postby Mcdonalds » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:42 pm

Skyrim is for conformist mainstream casuals

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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:00 am

I think we've established that the problem is there are 0 funny magic webcomics
Well, the PMO ones from goodgamery are decent too.
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I would still like to see the posts sent over to ( N_S ) and have the Salvation Gutter archived away and replaced with a link to MTGC.
Thank you for all the lies. Another fine display of integrity by iridium :thumbsup:

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:14 am

So Izzet puns are bad, and Cardboard Crack is crap...what is funny then? Please don't say Adam Sandler...

Watch "Alvin and the Chipmunks - At a Medium Pace (Adam Sandler)" on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HidqO0i ... ata_player

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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:26 am

So Izzet puns are bad, and Cardboard Crack is crap...what is funny then? Please don't say Adam Sandler...
Nope, try again
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:11 am

People who play a lot of legacy, feedback on this list? Pretty please?

[deck]Creatures:24
4 Goblin Welder
4 Metalworker
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Kuldotha Forgemaster
2 Steel Hellkite
4 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Sundering Titan
1 Blightsteel Colossus

Spells:18
2 Mox Opal
2 Faithless Looting
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2 Blood Moon
1 Staff of Domination
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1 Mindslaver
1 Staff of Nin
1 Spine of Ish Sah

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4 Ancient Tomb
1 Buried Ruin
4 City of Traitors
2 Darksteel Citadel
4 Great Furnace
1 Hall of the Bandit Lord
2 Mountain

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4 Chalice of the Void
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2 Trinisphere
3 Mindbreak Trap
1 Witchbane Orb
1 Duplicant
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:12 am

Basically, if I build MUD, I want to play Welder because #redineveryformat / I really enjoy Daretti.

Any feedback appreciated.

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Postby BlakLanner » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:49 am

I think that you really want Chalice in the main deck as well as perhaps Trinisphere. Turn 1 Chalice is a beating against quite a few decks. I am not convinced that you need 4 Wurmcoil Engines. Most of the MUD decks also have a Cloudpost package but that might not be possible since you need red mana. Blood Moon can probably go to the sideboard given the number of basic lands I have seen in recent weeks. I don't know if you need the Top but that is a hard card to argue against in any deck.
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Postby Platypus » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:04 am

Go read http://www.5colorcontrol.com/noshyfts/, you'll find Cardboard Crack very funny.
Those weren't that bad.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:09 pm

I think that you really want Chalice in the main deck as well as perhaps Trinisphere. Turn 1 Chalice is a beating against quite a few decks. I am not convinced that you need 4 Wurmcoil Engines. Most of the MUD decks also have a Cloudpost package but that might not be possible since you need red mana. Blood Moon can probably go to the sideboard given the number of basic lands I have seen in recent weeks. I don't know if you need the Top but that is a hard card to argue against in any deck.
My thinking was that you probably didn't wannt welder and chalice together in the main. When you side in chalice / trinisphere, you side out one drops. I could be completely wrong with this kind of thinking though.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:56 pm

People who play a lot of legacy, feedback on this list? Pretty please?

[deck]Creatures:24
4 Goblin Welder
4 Metalworker
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Kuldotha Forgemaster
2 Steel Hellkite
4 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Sundering Titan
1 Blightsteel Colossus

Spells:18
2 Mox Opal
2 Faithless Looting
1 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Grim Monolith
2 Lightning Greaves
2 Blood Moon
1 Staff of Domination
1 Batterskull
1 Mindslaver
1 Staff of Nin
1 Spine of Ish Sah

Lands:18
4 Ancient Tomb
1 Buried Ruin
4 City of Traitors
2 Darksteel Citadel
4 Great Furnace
1 Hall of the Bandit Lord
2 Mountain

Sideboard:15
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Tormod's Crypt
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Trinisphere
3 Mindbreak Trap
1 Witchbane Orb
1 Duplicant
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Has mountains, looks bad on paper and plays worse, has no good matchups, yep, it's an FOS deck
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