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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:39 pm

In what year are we playing black in legacy?
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Postby Mcdonalds » Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:36 pm

I do it all the time

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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:16 pm

Yeah but you're a budg scrub
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Postby Self Medicated » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:45 pm

Well, rain got pretty crazy. We got something like 8" in a matter of hours. Kids couldn't go to school due to road closures, and my sister's house flooded.

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:06 pm

I was playing this for lulz.

[Deck]Creatures:12
4 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
4 Butcher of the Horde
4 Stormbreath Dragon

Spells:23
3 Burst Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Pillar of Flame
4 Bitterblossom
4 Lightning Helix
4 Volcanic Fallout

Lands:25
4 Arid Mesa
2 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Godless Shrine
4 Marsh Flats
2 Mountain
2 Plains
4 Sacred Foundry
1 Swamp
Sideboard:15[/deck]
I feel like Butcher isn't good enough. There are times I feel like he's not good enough in standard. Stormbreath could be interesting though. Is it really better than Thundermaw Hellkite or Demigod of Revenge though?
I was just trying him out, but you're right that he's slow and probably a better top end to an aggro deck than a middle beater.

He could easily be some combination of Ajani Vengeant, Chandra and Elspeth.

I like SBD a lot because he dodges Bolt, Path and can punch through white fliers like Restoration Angel and Collonade.

Demigod is good, too, I wouldn't fault you for trying him in a deck with better GY synergy, or a deck with Liliana.

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Postby lorddax » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:12 pm

Hey so question for you guys,

Reentering standard with an initial bankroll of $100 + whatever value is left in my old Standard trade binder (RtR block + M14 + Theros, BtG and some JOU). The decks I've done the best with are RW Burn, Hellrider aggro, Sledgehammer, and KDW. RW Burn being my most enjoyable. Are there any decks that are being worked on feasible to assemble for playing constructed or should I just focus on Limited for a while?

Is it a good investment to grab a UC playset of Khans for $40 and reduce my singles capital to $60? Im concerned that landbase issues and rarity may be cutting me out from being competitive this season in Constructed which remains my favorite format. I've learned my lesson of playing "budget" versions of bigger decks, the compromise made to reduce price are not comparable to designing a fresh deck with a solid gameplan that has a low rarity count.
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Postby Mcdonalds » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:16 pm

Yeah but you're a budg scrub
Revised duels are an acceptable budget replacement to beta

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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:28 pm

Yeah but you're a budg scrub
Revised duels are an acceptable budget replacement to beta
Wrong.

But beta duals are an acceptable budget replacement to alpha.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:29 pm

Hey so question for you guys,

Reentering standard with an initial bankroll of $100 + whatever value is left in my old Standard trade binder (RtR block + M14 + Theros, BtG and some JOU). The decks I've done the best with are RW Burn, Hellrider aggro, Sledgehammer, and KDW. RW Burn being my most enjoyable. Are there any decks that are being worked on feasible to assemble for playing constructed or should I just focus on Limited for a while?

Is it a good investment to grab a UC playset of Khans for $40 and reduce my singles capital to $60? Im concerned that landbase issues and rarity may be cutting me out from being competitive this season in Constructed which remains my favorite format. I've learned my lesson of playing "budget" versions of bigger decks, the compromise made to reduce price are not comparable to designing a fresh deck with a solid gameplan that has a low rarity count.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:30 pm

play UW Heroic
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:07 pm

I was playing this for lulz.

[Deck]Creatures:12
4 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
4 Butcher of the Horde
4 Stormbreath Dragon

Spells:23
3 Burst Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Pillar of Flame
4 Bitterblossom
4 Lightning Helix
4 Volcanic Fallout

Lands:25
4 Arid Mesa
2 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Godless Shrine
4 Marsh Flats
2 Mountain
2 Plains
4 Sacred Foundry
1 Swamp
Sideboard:15[/deck]
I feel like Butcher isn't good enough. There are times I feel like he's not good enough in standard. Stormbreath could be interesting though. Is it really better than Thundermaw Hellkite or Demigod of Revenge though?
I was just trying him out, but you're right that he's slow and probably a better top end to an aggro deck than a middle beater.

He could easily be some combination of Ajani Vengeant, Chandra and Elspeth.

I like SBD a lot because he dodges Bolt, Path and can punch through white fliers like Restoration Angel and Collonade.

Demigod is good, too, I wouldn't fault you for trying him in a deck with better GY synergy, or a deck with Liliana.
I've never really found Ajani V or Knight errant to be good.

Am I missing something?

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Postby Mcdonalds » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:16 pm

If we're going for pimp because "zomg TEH rare" then alpha is an acceptable substitute for summer

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:26 pm

I was playing this for lulz.

[Deck]Creatures:12
4 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
4 Butcher of the Horde
4 Stormbreath Dragon

Spells:23
3 Burst Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Pillar of Flame
4 Bitterblossom
4 Lightning Helix
4 Volcanic Fallout

Lands:25
4 Arid Mesa
2 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Godless Shrine
4 Marsh Flats
2 Mountain
2 Plains
4 Sacred Foundry
1 Swamp
Sideboard:15[/deck]
I feel like Butcher isn't good enough. There are times I feel like he's not good enough in standard. Stormbreath could be interesting though. Is it really better than Thundermaw Hellkite or Demigod of Revenge though?
I was just trying him out, but you're right that he's slow and probably a better top end to an aggro deck than a middle beater.

He could easily be some combination of Ajani Vengeant, Chandra and Elspeth.

I like SBD a lot because he dodges Bolt, Path and can punch through white fliers like Restoration Angel and Collonade.

Demigod is good, too, I wouldn't fault you for trying him in a deck with better GY synergy, or a deck with Liliana.
I've never really found Ajani V or Knight errant to be good.

Am I missing something?
They're both very good, but they don't just drop into any old deck with red/white. In a deck where you're clearing the board or gumming it up with tokens, both of those PWs do good work.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:43 pm

Ajani V. is always good. As long as you don't mistake his +1 for Tamiyo's... oops

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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:53 pm

Yeah but you're a budg scrub
Revised duels are an acceptable budget replacement to beta
Wrong.

But beta duals are an acceptable budget replacement to alpha.
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Postby RedNihilist » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:13 am

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Postby rcwraspy » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:45 am

does he smell like whiskey and cheap cologne?
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Postby Christen » Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:08 am

Finally completed all Dominion expansions and just waiting for the remaining 4 promos in the mail. Now the storage problem begins.
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Postby zemanjaski » Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:10 am

Final list for tomorrow.

[deck]UW Heroic[/deck]
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4 Battlewise Hoplite
4 Favored Hoplite
4 Heliod's Pilgrim
4 Hero of Iroas
3 Seeker of the Way

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1 Aqueous Form
4 Defiant Strike
2 Feat of Resistance
4 God's Willing
1 Ordeal of Heliod
4 Ordeal of Thassa
1 Singing Bell Strike
1 Stratus Walk
1 Treasure Cruise

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4 Flooded Strand
2 Island
1 Mana Confluence
8 Plains
4 Temple of Enlightenment
2 Tranquil Cove
1 Windswept Heath

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1 Aqueous Form
2 Ajani's Presence
2 Glare of Heresy
1 Eidolon of Countless Battles
2 Erase
2 Ordeal of Heliod
3 Stubborn Denial
2 Treasure Cruise
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Postby Jack » Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:39 am

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Postby GoblinWarchief » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:10 pm

Main deck is basically Tom Ross one - 2 eidolon of countless battles +1 heliod's pilgrim + 1 treasure cruise. Nice to see that good players come to the same conclusions (almost).

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:29 pm

@ Ham: YP$?

[deck] Creatures:11
4 Dark Confidant
4 Young Pyromancer
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos

Spells:26
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Thoughtseize
3 Lightning Helix
2 Terminate
2 Crackling Doom
3 Liliana of the Veil
4 Lingering Souls
1 Chandra, Pyromaster
2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor





Lands:23
2 Arid Mesa
1 Blood Crypt
2 Bloodstained Mire
1 Clifftop Retreat
1 Fetid Heath
1 Godless Shrine
1 Graven Cairns
1 Isolated Chapel
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
4 Marsh Flats
1 Mountain
1 Plains
1 Rugged Prairie
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Swamp
1 Vault of the Archangel

Sideboard:15
1 Slaughter Pact
1 Thoughtseize
2 Rakdos Charm
1 Anger of the Gods
4 Molten Rain
2 Timely Reinforcements
1 Chandra, Pyromaster
3 Slaughter Games
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:42 pm

Or maybe this:

[deck] Creatures:11
4 Dark Confidant
4 Young Pyromancer
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos

Spells:26
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Thoughtseize
3 Lightning Helix
2 Terminate
3 Crackling Doom
4 Lingering Souls
2 Ajani Vengeant
1 Chandra, Pyromaster
2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor





Lands:23
2 Arid Mesa
1 Blood Crypt
2 Bloodstained Mire
1 Clifftop Retreat
2 Godless Shrine
1 Isolated Chapel
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
4 Marsh Flats
1 Mountain
1 Plains
2 Rugged Prairie
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Swamp
1 Vault of the Archangel

Sideboard:15
1 Thoughtseize
2 Rakdos Charm
2 Zealous Persecution
4 Molten Rain
2 Timely Reinforcements
1 Chandra, Pyromaster
3 Slaughter Games[/deck]

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:51 pm

Need to work on the manabase. With math.

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Postby hamfactorial » Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:38 pm

I like it, but have no idea how the cards would play together. I'm generally a fan of any [mana]BRW[/mana] pile.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:01 pm

That is why you fail
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:03 pm

If you win, but hate the deck you're playing and don't enjoy yourself, you also fail.

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Postby hamfactorial » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:05 pm

That is why you fail
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Postby Jack » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:25 pm

If you win, but hate the deck you're playing and don't enjoy yourself, you also fail.
Which is why it's so sad that some people can't enjoy blue. :sherlock:
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:01 pm

To me, there's nothing enjoyable about doing nothing but ruining other peoples' day. That's what you do when you play draw go. It's not enjoyable for me or them, so what's the point? I'd rather interact, see some cool stuff happen, and let the chips fall where they may. I like winning, but I even get bored of that sometimes. I think that's why I've been playing so much EDH lately. I want my opponents to beat me sometimes. I want to see epic things happen. I want everyone to enjoy themselves.

There is nothing interesting, epic or enjoyable about countereverythingdrawcardscountereverythingdrawcardsdropthreatyoucantinteractwithwatchyousquirmthenwin.dec

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Postby Kaitscralt » Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:48 pm

There's only one draw go-ish deck in Modern (UWR control)

Play a Geist list instead
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Postby Jack » Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:50 pm

Yeah, what kait said
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Postby Khaospawn » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:23 pm

Yeah, what kait said
I bet you thought you'd never say that. :evillol:
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Postby Khaospawn » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:38 pm

I had a fun night after FNM. After playing the Thunderstruck drinking game until one dude puked all over the bar table, I got to see some dude get a beer mug smashed over his face and fucking bleed everywhere. Apparently, the dude's buddy had PSTD from a tour in Afghanistan and the idiot jokingly put his hands around the guy's throat, which resulted in a bloody mess. The cool thing was that the bar band just kept playing while all hell briefly broke loose.

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Of course, everyone ended up at IHOP later, where I ended up ordering item after item just to see the waitress walk back and forth because her ass was just fucking epic. And in true Khaos fashion, I managed to embarrass myself by drunkenly announcing to half the table that she's hot as fuck, and when I look up she was standing right there with more food for me.

The last thing I remember before stumbling up the stairs to my apartment was laughing so hard in the IHOP parking lot that I was literally rolling on the pavement.
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Postby zemanjaski » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:17 pm

Blue Red delver is in the format, a deck everyone can enjoy.
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Postby Khaospawn » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:21 pm

It's true.
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Postby rcwraspy » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:21 pm

Blue Red delver is the format.
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Postby zemanjaski » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:34 pm

Legit >:)
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Postby zemanjaski » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:39 pm

I don't understand the difference between fun and my having fun.
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Postby Valdarith » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:11 pm

Nothing like endless streams of Abzan Reanimator mirrors to entertain you...

My LGS announced a PTQ for next month and I have no idea what to play. I've been on Sidisi Whip and Jeskai decks since rotation but I'm kind of grossed out by Hornet Queen mirrors. The format sure did turn stale quickly.

Am I the only one that is completely turned off by UW Heroic? It looks like a pile of shit.
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