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Post #55281 by Kaitscralt » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:36 pm

Rick is real
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Post #55282 by Khaospawn » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:19 pm

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Post #55283 by Khaospawn » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:20 pm

He's no Siege Rhino, though.
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Post #55284 by Aodh » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:32 pm



Probably want one Purphoros, so -1 Chandra or Crater for him.

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Post #55285 by zemanjaski » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:35 pm

Travelling overseas for events is so exciting :)
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Post #55286 by LP, of the Fires » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:36 pm

Does anyone else think Ojutai is somewhere between mediocre and unplayable?
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Post #55287 by zemanjaski » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:47 pm

It's a 7 mana sorcery in limited; it's extremely mediocre but playable.
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Post #55288 by LP, of the Fires » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:59 pm

New ojutai. 5/4 for 5 flyer. Heproof if it's untapped. When it deals damage draw a card.

I don't think it's good in standard, but people keep telling me it's the best dragonlord. Which is wrong. Cause that's Atarka. Cause she's amazing.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Post #55289 by Kaitscralt » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:04 pm

Ojutai is okay. Depends on what tools control can afford to protect him with.
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Post #55290 by Kaitscralt » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:06 pm

being able to tap out for ojutai and just let him be until you untap is very nice

he's also in colors that are getting a lot of new tools to test out
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Post #55291 by Thrillho » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:12 pm

Mediocre maybe.
Good possibly.
Great unlikely.
Unplayable is unrelated to this card.

Also getting bad-impulse on damage != draw a card.

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Post #55292 by Lightning_Dolt » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:06 pm

zemanjaski » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:35 pm wrote:Travelling overseas for events is so exciting :)


Aussies consider New Zealand overseas? Mind blown. How long is the flight?

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Post #55293 by LP, of the Fires » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:17 pm

Can't imagine more than an 2 hours.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Post #55294 by zemanjaski » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:27 am

3.5 hours.
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Post #55295 by rcwraspy » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:11 am

LP, of the Fires » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:17 pm wrote:Can't imagine more than an 2 hours.

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Post #55296 by Khaospawn » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:12 am

Like your mom's vagina.
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Post #55297 by rcwraspy » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:15 am

Just for that, I'm gonna kill Carl.
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Post #55298 by Valdarith » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:23 am

You mean Coral.

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Post #55299 by Kaitscralt » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:52 am

Coralbust
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Post #55300 by Purp » Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:20 am

Double PPTQ weekend on dragons release weekend. Has anyone had any thoughts? I think I might stay on jeskai tempo (or maybe tokens), anticipate seems like it could be great in the deck.
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Post #55301 by photodyer » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:39 am

Anyone have thoughts on a viable, flash-in-the-pan shell that can run Drown in Sorrow, HDF, Anger, Archfiend of Depravity and enchantment hate? I know that I'm going to be seeing GW Devotion, red-based aggro and Naya Walkers...Jund would be interesting but the mana seems too ridiculous.

Much of this is SB material...the question is whether there is an RBx shell that can run BB and RR as needed.
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Post #55302 by zemanjaski » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:46 am

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Post #55303 by Kaitscralt » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:11 pm

300k should do it
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Post #55304 by BlakLanner » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:24 pm

photodyer » 11 Mar 2015 01:39 wrote:Anyone have thoughts on a viable, flash-in-the-pan shell that can run Drown in Sorrow, HDF, Anger, Archfiend of Depravity and enchantment hate? I know that I'm going to be seeing GW Devotion, red-based aggro and Naya Walkers...Jund would be interesting but the mana seems too ridiculous.

Much of this is SB material...the question is whether there is an RBx shell that can run BB and RR as needed.


Perhaps a Mardu Control strategy? Early burn and sweepers, rely on things like Butcher, SBD, Elspeth, and Sorin to kill your opponent.
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Post #55305 by Aodh » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:54 pm

photodyer » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:39 pm wrote:Anyone have thoughts on a viable, flash-in-the-pan shell that can run Drown in Sorrow, HDF, Anger, Archfiend of Depravity and enchantment hate? I know that I'm going to be seeing GW Devotion, red-based aggro and Naya Walkers...Jund would be interesting but the mana seems too ridiculous.

Much of this is SB material...the question is whether there is an RBx shell that can run BB and RR as needed.


I don't think you want to go all in on an anti-GW deck. You'll just lose to big creature and control strategies.

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Post #55306 by photodyer » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:44 pm

Aodh » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:54 am wrote:
photodyer » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:39 pm wrote:Anyone have thoughts on a viable, flash-in-the-pan shell that can run Drown in Sorrow, HDF, Anger, Archfiend of Depravity and enchantment hate? I know that I'm going to be seeing GW Devotion, red-based aggro and Naya Walkers...Jund would be interesting but the mana seems too ridiculous.

Much of this is SB material...the question is whether there is an RBx shell that can run BB and RR as needed.


I don't think you want to go all in on an anti-GW deck. You'll just lose to big creature and control strategies.


No, not at all...sorry if I came across that way in my brevity. I think Drown is in a great place right now, and I'd rather be playing it that getting hit by it. Archfiend was a sideboard consideration that I want to take along for the 2nd day of Standard play (whole separate Swiss, not consecutive), but it's not the key. Black and red removal while maintaining access to Erase/Glare is where I'm trying to go. But maybe I'm just trying to ice skate up a hill...
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Post #55307 by Self Medicated » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:15 pm

Photo, I haven't seen any list that runs those cards together. I think that's just asking too much of your mana base. Being able to reliably cast Drown or Anger on turn 3 would require at least 19 sources of both [mana]b[/mana] and [mana]r[/mana]. It's just not possible. Now, if you don't need to cast Anger on turn 3, just go black heavy on your base and know that you won't be casting Anger until turn 5-6. At that point, you need to ask yourself if it's really worth it.
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Post #55308 by Khaospawn » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:28 pm

Is the juice worth the squeeze?
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Post #55309 by Aodh » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:34 pm

Just run Rbw with Anger as your 3-mana sweeper and Crux as a 2-of at 5 or something.

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Post #55310 by hamfactorial » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:53 pm

Who needs a win condition?

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Post #55311 by hamfactorial » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:02 pm

20 sweepers 4 Rhino.dek

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Post #55312 by LP, of the Fires » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:31 am

Double Dragon. Cause I couldn't think of a good deck for Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon(temur sabertooth+dromaka).

[deck]4 Orator of Ojutai
3 Dragonlord Dramoka
3 Dragonlord Ojutai

2 Last Breath
2 Divination
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You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Post #55313 by Kaitscralt » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:23 am

run far in the opposite direction from that deck
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Post #55314 by Khaospawn » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:48 am

I rate it a 4.
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Post #55315 by Khaospawn » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:49 am

Kait, bust out that grading scale!
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Post #55316 by LP, of the Fires » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:56 am

Kaitscralt » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:23 pm wrote:run far in the opposite direction from that deck


While the numbers are off, I think the deck will be good when I tune it.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Post #55317 by hamfactorial » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:21 am

As long as you name it Hard-On for Dargons, I'll be happy.

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Post #55318 by Jamie » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:30 am

I should just sell my cards and buy into modo. Nearest LGS is an hour away in nowheresville, Iowa

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Post #55319 by hamfactorial » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:05 am

MTGO is great if you have nothing but hatred for yourself

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Post #55320 by Khaospawn » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:12 am

I seem to have plenty. :ohdear:
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