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Post #58001 by dpaine88 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:27 pm

Wow won 14 of 15 games played today while testing for the Regional PTQ. Atarka Charm too strong.

I come home all settled on Atarka Red but man that Mardu list posted above is fricken sweeeeet!!
Burn baby burn!

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Post #58002 by Jamie » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:28 pm

jsilv » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:35 pm wrote:
Maverick » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:13 pm wrote:Magic should be a living card game.


Why do you hate having a thriving tournament scene?

I don't buy it.

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Post #58003 by nme » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:27 am

Wiping out the secondary market has consequences. Most game shops make their margins on standard singles, and taking that away will make it a lot harder to run a card store than it already is.

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Post #58004 by Jamie » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:34 am

I don't buy it.

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Post #58005 by TubeHunter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:36 am

McDonalds Ice Tea

I drink that
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Post #58006 by windstrider » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:43 am

Sweet or regular?
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Post #58007 by Valdarith » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:31 am



Regular IS sweet, silly goose. Bless your heart.
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Post #58008 by windstrider » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:15 am

Valdarith » Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:31 pm wrote:


Regular IS sweet, silly goose. Bless your heart.


I like sweet tea, but the McDonald's sweet tea around here is basically sugar water. It's face-curdlingly sweet and mostly undrinkable.
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Post #58009 by Valdarith » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:24 am

We say "Grandma stumped her toe when pouring the sugar" to explain that.
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Post #58010 by Valdarith » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:25 am

I rarely drink tea, but when I do it has to be sweet.
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Post #58011 by hamfactorial » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:31 am

y'all gonna get the beetus

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Post #58013 by Jamie » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:18 am

You know what I miss more than packrat and sphinx's rev? Lifebane zombie and tidebinder mage

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Post #58014 by Jamie » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:28 am

Aren't brainless creatures that win the game supposed to be green? why is rabblemaster red?

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Post #58015 by Christen » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:56 am

What is up and I've been busy with FFXIV.
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Post #58016 by TubeHunter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:39 am

Valve is such a shitty company
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Post #58017 by TubeHunter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:40 am

I mean, i guess whats new, (a game company crapping on consumers, what a twist right?), but seriously, fuck valve.
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Post #58018 by Jamie » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:49 am

All the cool companies like valve suck now
You either die a hero or live long enough to be a villain or whatever I don't read comic books.

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Post #58019 by hamfactorial » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:51 am

What did Valve do?

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Post #58020 by hamfactorial » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:51 am

I could google it, but I'm 2caj

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Post #58021 by nme » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:18 am

[deck=Mardu Tokens]
Land:
2 Battlefield Forge
4 Bloodstaine Mire
2 Caves of Koilos
2 Nomad Outpost
3 Mountain
2 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Temple of Malice
3 Temple of Silence
3 Temple of Triumph

Creatures:
1 Soulfire Grand Master
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Butcher of the Horde

Spells:
4 Crackling Doom
2 Mardu Charm
4 Dragon Fodder
4 Hordeling Outburst
4 Outpost Siege
4 Stoke the Flames
4 Raise the Alarm
1 Valorous Stance

Sideboard:
2 Read the Bones
2 Self-Inflicted Wound
1 Utter End
3 Twin Bolt
2 Nyx-Fleece Ram
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Erase
1 Glare of Heresy
1 Valorous Stance[/deck]

Chapin/Flores special from their podcast, seems like it could be pretty sweet against Esper Dragons.

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Post #58022 by Jamie » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:55 am


Mods have always been grey area legally and up until now have always been free because... how do you charge for content you made for a game you don't own? Valve enabled Skyrim-mod developers to put their content up for sale where valve takes 75% of the money.

So that has some unfortunate implications that really suck (and some of them are major) but most of the whining is "waah I have to pay for my games"

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Post #58023 by TubeHunter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:54 am

There is a whole lot of shit on the pile for this, not just "wah we have to pay for games." I hate the prevailing opinion in gaming where people should just accept getting fucked over because "fuck you, you entitled consumer."

I mean, valve has been shitty for a while now, but this is just the cherry on a shit sundae for them.
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Post #58024 by jsilv » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:01 am

nme » Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:18 pm wrote:[deck=Mardu Tokens]
Land:
2 Battlefield Forge
4 Bloodstaine Mire
2 Caves of Koilos
2 Nomad Outpost
3 Mountain
2 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Temple of Malice
3 Temple of Silence
3 Temple of Triumph

Creatures:
1 Soulfire Grand Master
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Butcher of the Horde

Spells:
4 Crackling Doom
2 Mardu Charm
4 Dragon Fodder
4 Hordeling Outburst
4 Outpost Siege
4 Stoke the Flames
4 Raise the Alarm
1 Valorous Stance

Sideboard:
2 Read the Bones
2 Self-Inflicted Wound
1 Utter End
3 Twin Bolt
2 Nyx-Fleece Ram
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Erase
1 Glare of Heresy
1 Valorous Stance[/deck]

Chapin/Flores special from their podcast, seems like it could be pretty sweet against Esper Dragons.


The new tech is to take your old Mardu deck, swap Chained for pretty much anything else and then realize Outpost Siege forces Esper players to Ojutai you or die. Surprised they don't maindeck discard, but MARDU CHARRRRRRRRRM!

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Post #58025 by jsilv » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:02 am

TubeHunter » Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:54 pm wrote:There is a whole lot of shit on the pile for this, not just "wah we have to pay for games." I hate the prevailing opinion in gaming where people should just accept getting fucked over because "fuck you, you entitled consumer."

I mean, valve has been shitty for a while now, but this is just the cherry on a shit sundae for them.


Valve CS is some of the worst in the business.

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Post #58026 by Purp » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:08 pm

First FNM tonight since I sold all my cards, still got everything for mono red. Should I just run the list from the SCG Open or run Atarka Red?
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Post #58027 by Valdarith » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:17 pm

Atarka red.
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Post #58028 by hamfactorial » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:12 pm

Was it difficult reconciling "red cards are bad" with your winning results?

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Post #58029 by rcwraspy » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:19 pm

red deck wins ... when it adds a touch of green.
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Post #58030 by Valdarith » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:36 pm

Just 4-0d the Modern daily with Grixis Delver. I love this deck.
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Post #58031 by Thrillho » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:57 pm

Yeah but you can't cast Atarka's Command in control decks.

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Post #58032 by rcwraspy » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:04 pm

Maverick » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:46 pm wrote:When you play aggro and your opponent turns the corner, you have no hope of winning. You're sitting there like an asshole playing shitty cards. And this is basically how all of your matchups go, by definition.

When you're playing control and your opponent steamrolls you, you have no hope of winning. But at least you're playing fun and exciting cards, and still have other fun matchups as well: control mirrors, midrange matchups, etc.

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Post #58033 by Thrillho » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:11 pm

Honestly, given that feedback, I would just start putting Ugin and Haven of the Spirit Dragon in all of my aggressive red decks. :stupid:

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Post #58034 by dpaine88 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:17 pm

Wow that Mardu Tokens list looks pretty sweet actually.

Tokens are great vs the Mono Red decks full of X-1's and efficient burn and pretty good vs Control with all their spot removal and sacrifice effects - especially Raise the Alarm as an instant.

Crackling Doom is obv insane right now.


I might seriously play this tomororw at the RPTQ...long night of testing ahead.
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Post #58035 by Valdarith » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:19 pm

I'm probably playing some version of Mardu as well. Either control or midrange.
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Post #58036 by dpaine88 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:25 pm

I've been dismissing Mardu even though they are my fav colors because the lists are too midrangey for my style and I suck playing them.

This one feels JUST aggresive enough..

How has control Mardu tested? I feel like you wouldnt have the tools to fight the other control decks because you have no early pressure, they counter your stuff, then Dig and you lose...

I love how this deck can get under the control decks with tokens and back it up with powerful burn and removal and card advantage.
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Post #58037 by Kaitscralt » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:31 pm

You can always count on 3 things in life

Death, taxes and FoS choosing Mardu over the 18 viable decks (including Death and Taxes)
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Post #58038 by dpaine88 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:35 pm

@NME- Mind posting the link to the podcast where they discuss the Mardu list?
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Post #58039 by Valdarith » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:48 pm

Kaitscralt » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:31 pm wrote:You can always count on 3 things in life

Death, taxes and FoS choosing Mardu over the 18 viable decks (including Death and Taxes)


It's that or Esper Dragons for me, but I'm not confident in the mirror at all, so I'm thinking of defaulting to my strength in attacking.

Green decks are HUGE down here, and Mardu matches up against them perfectly.
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