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Post #58041 by RedNihilist » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:00 pm

Esper mirrors are pretty easy.
Keep 7 landers, counter ONLY dragons / Ugin or things that kill your wincons, act like you've got 7 counters AND 7 dragons in your hand (yeah, you only play five, but that's another story).
Land drops are the only thing that effectively count (be aggressive with Dig and Anticipate in order to find that extra land).
The first player that tries to win the game, loses.
Except if it's turn 54 and your opponent goes Silumgar into counter into counter into counter and you've got an empty hand.

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Post #58042 by TubeHunter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:06 pm

Kaitscralt » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:31 pm wrote:You can always count on 3 things in life

Death, taxes and FoS choosing Mardu over the 18 viable decks (including Death and Taxes)



But i do play death and taxes
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Post #58043 by jsilv » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:20 pm

FWIW, decks that beat Esper:
GW / GR Collected Company decks
Old Mardu decks that took out Chained to the Rocks and realized the rest of their deck is still scary vs. control and runs four Outpost Siege while they have 0 Vault.
BR Control that are basically Mardu, but with more Dragons and less horrendous mana.
Den Protector / Deathmist Raptor / X 3rd value creature - Esper can beat this deck, but none of them are configured properly to do so. So unless your opponents are actually good they aren't going to figure out winning lines against a never-ending horde of FoS'ers being thrown at them.

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Post #58044 by rcwraspy » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:25 pm

jsilv » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:20 pm wrote:So unless your opponents are actually good they aren't going to figure out winning lines against a never-ending horde of FoS'ers being thrown at them.

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Post #58045 by Khaospawn » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:38 pm

I really like that Mardu deck. I'm just wary about the manabase.
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Post #58046 by Khaospawn » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:39 pm

Ride or die, motherfucker!
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Post #58047 by Jamie » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:07 pm

TubeHunter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:54 am wrote:There is a whole lot of shit on the pile for this, not just "wah we have to pay for games." I hate the prevailing opinion in gaming where people should just accept getting fucked over because "fuck you, you entitled consumer."

I mean, valve has been shitty for a while now, but this is just the cherry on a shit sundae for them.

I think people are being entitled consumers. But this thing whole thing has been a fascinating train-wreck. People are downloading mods from websites and putting them up themselves on steam workshop and charging for them.

and then this gem
Mod name: Horse Genitals High Resolution Textures (PREMIUM MOD)
Description:Your Skyrim Experience will never be the same
Price: $99

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Post #58048 by Thrillho » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:12 pm

the $99 is worth it because at that point you're paying for art, which is truly priceless.

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Post #58049 by dpaine88 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:21 pm

nme » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:18 am wrote:[deck=Mardu Tokens]
Land:
2 Battlefield Forge
4 Bloodstaine Mire
2 Caves of Koilos
2 Nomad Outpost
3 Mountain
2 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Temple of Malice
3 Temple of Silence
3 Temple of Triumph

Creatures:
1 Soulfire Grand Master
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Butcher of the Horde

Spells:
4 Crackling Doom
2 Mardu Charm
4 Dragon Fodder
4 Hordeling Outburst
4 Outpost Siege
4 Stoke the Flames
4 Raise the Alarm
1 Valorous Stance

Sideboard:
2 Read the Bones
2 Self-Inflicted Wound
1 Utter End
3 Twin Bolt
2 Nyx-Fleece Ram
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Erase
1 Glare of Heresy
1 Valorous Stance[/deck]

Chapin/Flores special from their podcast, seems like it could be pretty sweet against Esper Dragons.


Is the deck 59 cards or am I messing something up cause Cockatrice says 59.
Burn baby burn!

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Post #58050 by Valdarith » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:24 pm

It's missing a land.
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Post #58051 by TubeHunter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:29 pm

Jamie » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:07 pm wrote:
TubeHunter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:54 am wrote:There is a whole lot of shit on the pile for this, not just "wah we have to pay for games." I hate the prevailing opinion in gaming where people should just accept getting fucked over because "fuck you, you entitled consumer."

I mean, valve has been shitty for a while now, but this is just the cherry on a shit sundae for them.

I think people are being entitled consumers. But this thing whole thing has been a fascinating train-wreck. People are downloading mods from websites and putting them up themselves on steam workshop and charging for them.

and then this gem
Mod name: Horse Genitals High Resolution Textures (PREMIUM MOD)
Description:Your Skyrim Experience will never be the same
Price: $99



I mean, if modder want to charge for their mods, go ahead, its other people's imperative whether to pay or not. The bulshit is that this doesn't even benefit nodders. valve takes 75% of the profit from the mod, and only gives the modded the money if they make over 400 dollars with it. That isn't "support" that is just valve being shitty and trying to crowd fund dlc.

Though it is valve, their entire business revolves around getting other people to do shit for them
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Post #58052 by nme » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:36 pm

Yeah they posted a 59 card deck. I'd add a land, but that mana base is an obvious WIP that needs to be tweaked.

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Post #58053 by nme » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:38 pm

TubeHunter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:29 pm wrote:
Jamie » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:07 pm wrote:
TubeHunter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:54 am wrote:There is a whole lot of shit on the pile for this, not just "wah we have to pay for games." I hate the prevailing opinion in gaming where people should just accept getting fucked over because "fuck you, you entitled consumer."

I mean, valve has been shitty for a while now, but this is just the cherry on a shit sundae for them.

I think people are being entitled consumers. But this thing whole thing has been a fascinating train-wreck. People are downloading mods from websites and putting them up themselves on steam workshop and charging for them.

and then this gem
Mod name: Horse Genitals High Resolution Textures (PREMIUM MOD)
Description:Your Skyrim Experience will never be the same
Price: $99



I mean, if modder want to charge for their mods, go ahead, its other people's imperative whether to pay or not. The bulshit is that this doesn't even benefit nodders. valve takes 75% of the profit from the mod, and only gives the modded the money if they make over 400 dollars with it. That isn't "support" that is just valve being shitty and trying to crowd fund dlc.

Though it is valve, their entire business revolves around getting other people to do shit for them


How many people can say they make over 100k a year from making digital hats tho?

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Post #58054 by Mcdonalds » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:53 pm

Valve made CS:Global Offensive insanely popular via gambling and skins

Valve is probably evil

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Post #58055 by Khaospawn » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:06 pm

I don't know who or what this "valve" is, but I say we just kill it with fire.
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Post #58056 by Thrillho » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:08 pm

I hope this helps.
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Post #58057 by Thrillho » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:11 pm

Imp Gang Boss really gets me.

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Post #58058 by dpaine88 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:37 pm

Just listened to the podcast on the Mardu deck.

Chapin read off the deck and the missing land is a Nomad Outpost.
Burn baby burn!

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Post #58059 by Jamie » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:40 pm

I didn't have any fun with team fortress 2 until I got into the competitive 6v6 servers where people actually tried to win

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Post #58060 by nme » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:56 pm

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I had fun the day it went F2P

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Post #58061 by LP, of the Fires » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:32 am

Thrillho » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:11 pm wrote:Imp Gang Boss really gets me.


Whenever I want to actually rank up in hearthstone, I just play zoo. You can tell when I'm experimenting with decks because my rank will fluctuate from 4/5 down to like 7 as I try jamming shit like freeze mage, agro mage, priest, etc.

Zoo and Rogue are the old faithfulls(not surprising since I have golden hero's for both classes) and I've started using hunter to jam through the first half of the ladder at season starts.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Post #58062 by TubeHunter » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:33 am

LP, of the Fires » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:32 pm wrote:
Thrillho » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:11 pm wrote:Imp Gang Boss really gets me.


Whenever I want to actually rank up in hearthstone, I just play zoo. You can tell when I'm experimenting with decks because my rank will fluctuate from 4/5 down to like 7 as I try jamming shit like freeze mage, agro mage, priest, etc.

Zoo and Rogue are the old faithfulls(not surprising since I have golden hero's for both classes) and I've started using hunter to jam through the first half of the ladder at season starts.



How does the meta look in hearthstone? I stopped playing when miracle rouge got nerved (boo) but i have been logging on occasionally, and I've pretty much given up on competing in constructed because i don't even have all the naxx cards yet, let alone the most recent 2 sets
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Post #58063 by Jack » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:38 am

Yo LP, what's your fave rogue list right now? Mage ain't good no mo and I'm taking a liking to oil rogue.
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Post #58064 by Jack » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:38 am

We also need a hearthstone section on this site.
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Post #58065 by TubeHunter » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:00 am

Also just did an arena and i remember how much i fucking hate actually playing hearthstone arena
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Post #58066 by TubeHunter » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:03 am

Did get a gold piloted shredder though, so thats something
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Post #58067 by Mcdonalds » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:04 am

sometimes your opponent has literally everything

Sometimes you get 2 of them in a row

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Post #58068 by LP, of the Fires » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:18 am

I actually don't think rogues that good now.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Post #58069 by LP, of the Fires » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:18 am

Too many face hunters on ladder.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Post #58070 by Jack » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:27 am

So I keep playing midrange hunter. Got it.
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Post #58071 by TubeHunter » Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:09 am

Man tonight is just not my night
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Post #58072 by Purp » Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:55 am

Anyone know how to pirate windows and be able to run bootcamp on my mac?
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Post #58073 by admin » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:32 pm

Jack » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:38 am wrote:We also need a hearthstone section on this site.

Its done

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Post #58074 by Valdarith » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:11 pm

The Open is one big Esper Dragons/Abzan Megamorph lovefest.
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Post #58075 by Jamie » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:21 pm

Oops, I accidentally brought jeskai tempo to a ptqq. As you'd expect, I went x-2

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Post #58076 by nme » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:56 pm

I guess the "fuck diversity" crowd is happy

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Post #58077 by hamfactorial » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:06 am

Diversity is great unless there are too many black decks

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Post #58078 by Khaospawn » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:45 am

They all look the same to you.
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Post #58079 by Valdarith » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:47 am

My brother in law thought every black person was Michael Jordan when he was a kid.
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Post #58080 by BlakLanner » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:13 am

I did not play against a single red aggro deck today at the Open. 3 Abzan, 2 Jeskai Tokens, 2 Esper, 1 Sultai Reanimator and 1 Temur Aggro.
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