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Postby nme » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:39 am

I guess the "fuck diversity" crowd is happy
It's one weekend. These decks could end up just being another GW Devotion.

I'll be happy if Esper Dragons, GW/x Megamorph, and one more deck stay on the top until Origins.
More like 3 weekends in a row. G/W devotion didn't take over the format like Esper is doing.

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Postby nme » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:41 am

Not that I really care of course, I bought my Ojutais before they were $30 a piece.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:56 am

I am throwing a parade to celebrate this Esper domination
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Postby Kaitscralt » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:56 am

Dragon floats
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Postby Valdarith » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:11 am

It would be better if complete noobs weren't making the deck look mediocre.
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Postby BlakLanner » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:45 am

The two Esper opponents I had were quite beatable. I thoroughly dismantled my first in a fake feature match and the second nearly fell to me even on multiple mulligans.
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Postby nme » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:19 am

did the last modern masters inflate prices or bring them down? Obviously it should bring them down some, but goyf is still at an unreasonable price.

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Postby BlakLanner » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:21 am

The chase cards went up. A lot of the midrange cards held value or went down a little.
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Postby rcwraspy » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:28 am

did the last modern masters inflate prices or bring them down? Obviously it should bring them down some, but goyf is still at an unreasonable price.
They dipped for a couple weeks when released then went up. The first mm had 2 things that won't be shared to the same degree by the second. Small print run and raised interest in the format. They've already said mm2015 will be a larger print run than the first and I doubt it will bring as many people to the format. So larger supply and smaller or equal demand.
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Postby jsilv » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:39 am

did the last modern masters inflate prices or bring them down? Obviously it should bring them down some, but goyf is still at an unreasonable price.
The majority of the rares permanently dropped, any of the chase uncommons that gor reprinted lost min. 50% of their value. Mythics dropped for about a month and then went right back up as people starting buying into Modern in droves.

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Postby rcwraspy » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:05 pm

did the last modern masters inflate prices or bring them down? Obviously it should bring them down some, but goyf is still at an unreasonable price.
The majority of the rares permanently dropped, any of the chase uncommons that gor reprinted lost min. 50% of their value. Mythics dropped for about a month and then went right back up as people starting buying into Modern in droves.
Do you see room in the market for the same type of "buying into Modern in droves?" If not, that coupled with the higher print run should mean even the chase mythics dropping and not going up as quickly.

That said, I'm sure there are still plenty of Modern (and Legacy) players who haven't gotten their sets of Tarmogoyf yet, so even without additional growth there's still some room in the current Modern player base for demand on these cards.

I'm optimistic about prices this time around, but who knows.
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Postby hamfactorial » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:39 pm

They're here to talk about their RB decks

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Postby Kaitscralt » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:21 pm

and my meds
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Postby hamfactorial » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:27 pm

I give a fuck about your meds

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Postby Thrillho » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:37 pm

My brother in law thought every black person was Michael Jordan when he was a kid.
In his defense I thought the new fantastic four movie was going to be the sequel to space jam.

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Postby Thrillho » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:39 pm

did the last modern masters inflate prices or bring them down? Obviously it should bring them down some, but goyf is still at an unreasonable price.
It did virtually nothing to the prices and then as time passed they inflated. The new goyf art actually caused both goyfs to go up in value.

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Postby Jamie » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:43 pm

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Postby Thrillho » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:47 pm

did the last modern masters inflate prices or bring them down? Obviously it should bring them down some, but goyf is still at an unreasonable price.
The majority of the rares permanently dropped, any of the chase uncommons that gor reprinted lost min. 50% of their value. Mythics dropped for about a month and then went right back up as people starting buying into Modern in droves.
The majority of MM rares arent modern staples, though. So "on the whole" that is most certainly true, but I think the only rare/mythics that got hosed long term after MM were Elspeth (who also had a duel deck), the pacts, and ??? The swords dipped and went back up, ravager didn't have anything substantial happen... Blinkmoth Nexus? I'm on a phone or Id confirm these, but my fevered scanning of prices seems to tell a different tale with MM rares and mythics.
Spell snare and path got hit hard, though. Same with finks. That's spot on.

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Postby Thrillho » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:48 pm

A lot of things seem random and mystical to people who don't follow a thing closely.

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Postby Jamie » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:26 pm

The price of remand could have gone up and you'd probably say something ridiculous like "I guess delver strategies are becoming more popular" instead of using your brain and accepting it was just random chance or the work of the white male greek god Zeus.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:15 pm

Any place to find info on RPTQs?

I know Flores won his with a 'mono blue' dragon ramp with 4 haven and 4 crucibles.

Cheon qualed via charity from Holiday and Vidi won
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby windstrider » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:33 pm

Magic is a constantly changing game. Adapt to the changing metagame or lose to it. It's how the game develops every new Standard. Aggro decks tend to dominate until Midrange decks come along at which point Control takes advantage of the slowed game state. Rinse, repeat. And then players whine about it until it changes again.

It's the circle of Magic.
Like it was constantly changing in RTR-THS Standard, when it was solved within a month and didn't change for a year?

A solved format is a solved format. DTK Standard is a solved format, and Esper Dragaons wins it.
That's the wisdom of ages right there, that is. :rolleyes:
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Postby windstrider » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:34 pm

Spending the afternoon with my boys, doing laundry, and watching Sword Art Online.
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Postby jsilv » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:54 pm

Most interesting deck at our RPTQ, also T4'd and Q'd.

[deck]24 lands

4 Frontier Bivouac
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Forest
2 Mountain
2 Temple of Abandon
1 Temple of Mystery
2 Temple of Epiphany
3 Shivan Reef
4 Yavimaya Coast

15 creatures
4 Courser of Kruphix
4 Hornet Nest
3 Satyr Wayfinder
2 Savage Knuckleblade
1 Dragonlord Atarka
1 Den Protector

16 other spells
4 Anger of the Gods
4 Roast
4 Anticipate
3 Dig Through Time
1 Lightning Strike

5 planeswalkers
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
4 Sarkhan Unbroken

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4 Disdainful Stroke
2 Negate
2 Gainsay
2 Savage Knuckleblade
1 Dragonlord Atarka
1 Dig Through Time
2 Seismic Rupture
1 Display of Dominance[/deck]

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:10 pm

I've seen something like this deck...somewhere.

It's definitely 75 legal magical cards.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby windstrider » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:34 pm

Top 4 at RPTQ Kansas City: Soulflayer Chromanticore, Abzan Megamorph, UB Dragons, and Esper Dragons in that order. Guess the format isn't solved after all.
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Postby TubeHunter » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:53 am

watching Sword Art Online.

Im sorry to hear that.
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Postby windstrider » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:07 am

Actually, I'm finding it a rather interesting comment on how players within an MMO interact with each other. The part with Yui, the sentient caregiver program, reminded me a lot of Final Fantasy VII and Aerith and how players reacted to her death in the game. It's certainly not what I expected it to be, and that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:23 am

Should I catch up on Arrow or just watch more New Girl?
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

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Postby Jamie » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:26 am

jcharm sucks anticipate sucks ojutaicommand sucks play green cards or dragon cards.
Deathmist is kinda like chandra's phoenix

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Postby Jamie » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:28 am

by 'green cards' i mean dromoka's command or atarka's command

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Postby hamfactorial » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:32 am

Should I catch up on Arrow or just watch more New Girl?
Abandon that sinking ship and watch Daredevil instead

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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:43 am

Should I catch up on Arrow or just watch more New Girl?
Arrow. Daredevil.
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:43 am

Lolz, I made my reply before seeing the next page.
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:44 am

Should I catch up on Arrow or just watch more New Girl?
Abandon that sinking ship and watch Daredevil instead
So you did start watching Arrow then.
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:45 am

Daredevil did not fail this city.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:45 am

Daredevil is the best thing ever
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:46 am

by golly I mean that
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.


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