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Postby Valdarith » Fri May 01, 2015 5:36 pm

What do we think about this for an expected meta of Esper and Abzan?

4 seeker of the way
4 soulfire grand master
4 goblin rabblemaster
4 mantis rider

3 wild slash
4 lightning strike
2 valorous stance
4 jeskai charm
4 stoke the flames
3 dig through time

24 lands

Envision the sideboard as having Surge of Righteousness, Negate, Disdainful Stroke, Anger, and some other role players.
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Postby Purp » Fri May 01, 2015 5:46 pm

Cut 2 seeker for 2 ojutai. Cut 3rd dig for 25 land. (this allows for elspeth vs abzan aggro which is gg)
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Postby Valdarith » Fri May 01, 2015 5:54 pm

Elspeth is definitely juicy.

Do we think Ojutai is acceptable here with only Valorous Stance to protect it?
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Postby BlakLanner » Fri May 01, 2015 6:00 pm

It has always served me well. You will also have Negate post board. You can bluff protection pretty well. At worst it is a 5/4 hexproof flying blocker. If you don't like that, just take SBDs or Sarkhans. Then again I am also a sucker for Thunderbreaks but I am not warm on Seeker right now so the exchange is easy.
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Postby Thrillho » Fri May 01, 2015 6:20 pm

How much do you guys think the reprinting of goblin guide will affect its price? I want to buy them but not sure if it worth waiting to see if they will drop 40-50%
I think 50% is ambitious if MM2015 is similarly limited as MM1 (and still suspect even with a less limited release). It would mark the cards third printing, so I definitely think it's safe to wait and see.

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Postby BlakLanner » Fri May 01, 2015 6:20 pm

They already said they are printing a lot more than they did of MM1
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Postby Thrillho » Fri May 01, 2015 6:25 pm

They already said they are printing a lot more than they did of MM1
Yes but we're talking by half of a multi format staple card in a set that still has a limited release compared with other sets, and a set selling at $10 per pack MSRP.
That said there's going to be a lot more floating around and it's fairly safe to assume it will deflate the current crazy cost.

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Postby Thrillho » Fri May 01, 2015 6:26 pm

I sold all of mine following the PT out of fear of exactly that if it helps your valuation at all.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri May 01, 2015 10:09 pm

What do we think about this for an expected meta of Esper and Abzan?

4 seeker of the way
4 soulfire grand master
4 goblin rabblemaster
4 mantis rider

3 wild slash
4 lightning strike
2 valorous stance
4 jeskai charm
4 stoke the flames
3 dig through time

24 lands

Envision the sideboard as having Surge of Righteousness, Negate, Disdainful Stroke, Anger, and some other role players.
Seems dec, you're natuarally favored vs. abzan agro, so that's a good thing. I'd probably cut dig and a wild slash or lightning strike for single Ojutai and land. If you play jeskai, you need to make sure you have a plan for RG dragons. I've found that aside from counterspells, Elspeth is one of the best cards against there deck.

Lastly, with so many jeskai charms, playing some number of token makers goes up in value, so brimaz should almost certainly be in the board, and outburst/fodder are cards i'd consider playing a couple copies of.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri May 01, 2015 10:52 pm

How else are you going to profitably block literally nothing in Standard?
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Postby Valdarith » Fri May 01, 2015 11:08 pm

Thanks for the advice, LP and Purp.

Do you think it would be acceptable to run 24 land with two Ojutai and a 25th land in the board to play control in postboard games? I do plan on running a couple of Elspeth in the board and 1-2 Brimaz. I fear flooding on 25 land but I guess running the full set of Soulfire Grand Master makes that less scary.
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Postby jsilv » Fri May 01, 2015 11:24 pm

How else are you going to profitably block literally nothing in Standard?
lol
hay, look, they didn't reprint birds of paradise. nothing i can do. :rofl:
How much do you guys think the reprinting of goblin guide will affect its price? I want to buy them but not sure if it worth waiting to see if they will drop 40-50%
I think 50% is ambitious if MM2015 is similarly limited as MM1 (and still suspect even with a less limited release). It would mark the cards third printing, so I definitely think it's safe to wait and see.
to give you some idea, I have an allocation event-wise to run drafts for nearly 600 people + MM prizes (MM1 we ran a 200 player draft w/ no MM prizes). this is not counting at all how much CFB is selling pre-Vegas. Other stores that ran 50-100 man draft events before running out are now advertising caps of 300-400 players. There's a whole lot more floating around ATM even without exact allocations being known.

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Postby Valdarith » Sat May 02, 2015 12:07 am

If we go up to 25 land, what do we think about Stormbreath Dragon vs an Elspeth or Sarkhan in the main?
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sat May 02, 2015 12:19 am

Strombreath seems poorly positioned against everything but Abzan agro. Sarkhan is mostly in the same boat.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Valdarith » Sat May 02, 2015 12:25 am

That was my line of thinking as well. At least Elspeth gets some value before eating a Downfall.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sat May 02, 2015 12:40 am

Thought Experiment:

Thought Experiment:

4 Warden of the First Tree
4 Soldier of the Pantheon
4 Fleecemane Lion
4 Rakshasa Deathdealer
4 Siege Rhino
4 Anafenza, the Foremost
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
1 Tasigur, the Golden Fang

2 Hero's Downfall
2 Dromoka's Command
2 Abzan Charm

2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Plains
2 Forest
4 Sandsteppe Citadel
4 Windswept Heath
2 Llanowar Wastes
2 Caves of Koilos
2 Temple of Malady
4 Mana Confluence
2 Temple of Silence

SB: 3 Drown in Sorrow
SB: 2 Ultimate Price
SB: 1 Duress
SB: 3 Self-Inflicted Wound
SB: 1 Wingmate Roc
SB: 1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
SB: 4 Thoughtseize
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Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sat May 02, 2015 12:40 am

How to win the mirror, and beat control while retaining % vs. red decks.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Valdarith » Sat May 02, 2015 12:44 am

Man that's greedy!
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sat May 02, 2015 1:31 am

I remember Wrath and birds being expensive as fuck when I was in high school.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Valdarith » Sat May 02, 2015 2:31 am

Round two.

[deck]
2 seeker of the way
4 soulfire grand master
4 goblin rabblemaster
4 mantis rider
1 brimaz, king of oreskos
2 dragonlord ojutai

2 wild slash
4 lightning strike
2 valorous stance
3 jeskai charm
4 stoke the flames
2 dig through time
1 elspeth, sun's champion

3 mystic monastery
4 temple of triumph
3 temple of epiphany
4 flooded strand
3 shivan reef
3 battlefield forge
2 island
2 plains
1 mountain

1 erase
1 valorous stance
2 negate
2 disdainful stroke
1 gainsay
1 glare of heresy
2 surge of righteousness
3 anger of the gods
1 brimaz, king of oreskos
1 elspeth, sun's champion
[/deck]

Thinking of cutting the Seekers for a third Wild Slash and moving the second Brimaz to the main.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Sat May 02, 2015 5:34 am

48 Ojutai
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Postby BlakLanner » Sat May 02, 2015 5:36 am

Clever Impersonator is fun. Opponent plays Garruk, I copy Garruk, I kill his Garruk. He cries.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Sat May 02, 2015 12:00 pm

But then in every scenario except for that, it is not so fun.
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby BlakLanner » Sat May 02, 2015 1:01 pm

I am not so sure. So far I have copied the Garruk, two Atarkas, an Ugin, and three Drifting Deaths. I think I am going to keep it as a one-of in my board.
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Postby Valdarith » Sat May 02, 2015 1:35 pm

Final list for today!

[deck]
4 soulfire grand master
4 goblin rabblemaster
4 mantis rider
2 brimaz, king of oreskos
2 dragonlord ojutai

3 wild slash
4 lightning strike
2 valorous stance
3 jeskai charm
4 stoke the flames
2 dig through time
1 elspeth, sun's champion

3 mystic monastery
4 temple of triumph
3 temple of epiphany
4 flooded strand
3 shivan reef
3 battlefield forge
2 island
2 plains
1 mountain

1 erase
1 valorous stance
3 negate
2 disdainful stroke
1 gainsay
2 glare of heresy
2 surge of righteousness
2 anger of the gods
1 elspeth, sun's champion
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Postby BlakLanner » Sat May 02, 2015 1:40 pm

Not sure on only 3 Monastery but the rest looks solid.
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Postby Valdarith » Sat May 02, 2015 2:02 pm

17 R, 16 W, 15 U. I'm fine with those numbers. :)
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Postby BlakLanner » Sat May 02, 2015 2:16 pm

I would have cut a Triumph for it to give you 17/16/16 but if you are fine with it, I won't argue. The difference is likely miniscule.
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Postby Purp » Sat May 02, 2015 2:30 pm

But then in every scenario except for that, it is not so fun.
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Postby Valdarith » Sat May 02, 2015 10:36 pm

After losing round one to GW Devotion, I rattled off four straight, extremely hard-fought wins to draw round 6 into the top 8 of this PPTQ. Have yet to win a die roll and will likely be on the draw in every top 8 match. Hilarious happenings include losing a die roll when my opponent first rolled a 3.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Sat May 02, 2015 10:49 pm

good luck
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Postby Khaospawn » Sat May 02, 2015 11:33 pm

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sun May 03, 2015 1:00 am

I didn't know Maverick wrote about magic: http://legendstech.tumblr.com/post/1178 ... tour-sucks
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