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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sun May 03, 2015 3:35 am

I'd assume it's either monstore or pack warz?
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Valdarith » Sun May 03, 2015 3:55 am

I lost in the top 4 1-2 vs Abzan Control. Can't close!
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sun May 03, 2015 4:07 am

What did and didn't you like about the deck?
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sun May 03, 2015 4:39 am

Seems like something you would write.

I agree with some points, but think a large part of it is whiny.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby TBuzzsaw » Sun May 03, 2015 4:42 am

I'd assume it's either monstore or pack warz?
A store called Gameology. It's the one I talked about few weeks back about fixing the winner for Game Day. No one goes there without a bad experience.

Today they had a PPTQ and my Facebook feed is flooded with people that went and talking about all the shit that went down. Stuff like massive amounts of game losses and questionable DQs for nothing, judges telling players to figure stuff out themselves, officials and store owners cussing out customers, and what was just put to light: entering people into the event that had not only never played the game, they had no intention of playing just so the store can get to the 50 players for support from Wizards. One friend found out his first round opponent doesn't know how to play and his decklist was listed as 60 Forests.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sun May 03, 2015 5:07 am

About a year or so ago, I heard about a bunch of sketchy stuff involving OC and the judges up there. Not surprised at all.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby TBuzzsaw » Sun May 03, 2015 6:39 am

Mayweather vs Pacquiao was more boring to watch than a GW Manifest mirror.
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Postby Purp » Sun May 03, 2015 6:53 am

The fight was good the first 4/5 rounds. After round 5 mayweather was able to distance himself nicely. While I would have loved to see Manny win, the only way he could win was with a KO. If it goes to a decision, that means Mayweather was able to play his game, and he deserved to win.
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Postby Valdarith » Sun May 03, 2015 12:53 pm

What did and didn't you like about the deck?
Ojutai was a waste of space all day. I know it's a great card but it never did anything for me. This could just be due to how my matches played out (my matchups in order were GW Manifest, Mono Green Beatdown, GR aggro, Esper control, Bant heroic, Abzan aggro, and Abzan control). I would rather this have been a second Elspeth and some other spell.

Soulfire Grand Master was insane. Got to buyback my spells all day, and it was most handy in my top 8 match against Abzan aggro where I was able to continually buyback my Lightning Strikes to kill his Vampire token threatening to kill my Elspeth, a Fleecemane Lion, and a Warden before finally stabilizing and winning off an Elspeth ultimate.

Elspeth was Elspeth. It was my first time playing with it and the way it just wins games if not answered immediately is like control's version of Goblin Rabblemaster.

Mantis Rider is very well positioned right now. It allowed me to outrace heroic and mono green.

Brimaz was very good too. I liked playing two. He was pivotal to a few of my victories, and his synergy with Stoke was very relevant.

My sideboard was probably off by one or two cards. I think my counter suite was correct but Surge of Righteousness was a little awkward if my opponent only had Warden or Fleecemane out. This would probably have been better as Roast.

Basically this deck is one of those 50% decks with no really bad matchups. Only GW Manifest felt truly terrible but that was exacerbated by being on the draw for two games. There were a lot of comments from the peanut gallery on my deck and the Esper control player in particular was pretty salty about losing to "Jeskai cards-I-own." :D
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Postby BlakLanner » Sun May 03, 2015 2:30 pm

I never found GW that bad. Anger just crushes them if you drop it early. I am very surprised that you didn't like Ojutai. Did it die when you attacked every time or something? It should have been a real player against GW, Mono Green, Bant, and Abzan at least. Would it have been better as Stormbreath?
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sun May 03, 2015 2:50 pm

Ojutai has the very real issue of dying in decks without counterspells.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby BlakLanner » Sun May 03, 2015 2:51 pm

Fair enough. I run extra Stances as well as Regents to get extra value out of a lone Ojutai.
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Postby Valdarith » Sun May 03, 2015 3:20 pm

I never found GW that bad. Anger just crushes them if you drop it early. I am very surprised that you didn't like Ojutai. Did it die when you attacked every time or something? It should have been a real player against GW, Mono Green, Bant, and Abzan at least. Would it have been better as Stormbreath?
I never drew my Angers postboard against GW unfortunately. With Ojutai I was almost always behind when I played him and he had to trade with fatties or he would die when attacking.

I actually am beginning to think it would have been better as Ashcloud Phoenix.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Sun May 03, 2015 3:37 pm

that anti-PT article was horrible

was it supposed to be a bad beats whine blog or a legit criticism of the PT? you can't have both. especially when you end it with "i'm looking forward to the standard open I'm preparing for"

i agree with some of what he said more than he does. i actually don't play magic because of all the shit attached, he's just another nerd sucking the wotc d
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Postby jsilv » Sun May 03, 2015 10:40 pm

I'd assume it's either monstore or pack warz?
A store called Gameology. It's the one I talked about few weeks back about fixing the winner for Game Day. No one goes there without a bad experience.

Today they had a PPTQ and my Facebook feed is flooded with people that went and talking about all the shit that went down. Stuff like massive amounts of game losses and questionable DQs for nothing, judges telling players to figure stuff out themselves, officials and store owners cussing out customers, and what was just put to light: entering people into the event that had not only never played the game, they had no intention of playing just so the store can get to the 50 players for support from Wizards. One friend found out his first round opponent doesn't know how to play and his decklist was listed as 60 Forests.
Did these people play / can we verify this stuff happened? That store is 100% getting it's sanctioned pulled and a TO getting banned if the DCI fraud part is legit.

*Also so I can make sure this store gets it's sanctioning pulled.

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Postby Khaospawn » Sun May 03, 2015 10:53 pm

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Postby Khaospawn » Sun May 03, 2015 10:55 pm

Gooooooood. Let the hate flooouoooow through you.
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Postby jsilv » Sun May 03, 2015 11:27 pm

And PV wins his local GP, because a deck he's a master with is finally good again.

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Postby TBuzzsaw » Sun May 03, 2015 11:37 pm

I'd assume it's either monstore or pack warz?
A store called Gameology. It's the one I talked about few weeks back about fixing the winner for Game Day. No one goes there without a bad experience.

Today they had a PPTQ and my Facebook feed is flooded with people that went and talking about all the shit that went down. Stuff like massive amounts of game losses and questionable DQs for nothing, judges telling players to figure stuff out themselves, officials and store owners cussing out customers, and what was just put to light: entering people into the event that had not only never played the game, they had no intention of playing just so the store can get to the 50 players for support from Wizards. One friend found out his first round opponent doesn't know how to play and his decklist was listed as 60 Forests.
Did these people play / can we verify this stuff happened? That store is 100% getting it's sanctioned pulled and a TO getting banned if the DCI fraud part is legit.

*Also so I can make sure this store gets it's sanctioning pulled.
Yeah everyone that was there have gotten together to report the news to everyone they can. There's a campaign to get the place shut down by everyone finally tired of their shit. The history goes back years with their shady practices and it's finally getting some attention.

Hilariously enough the one that got cussed out was a L2 judge and the one with the 60 Forest opponent is a L1. They dun goofed.
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon May 04, 2015 12:17 am

And PV wins his local GP, because a deck he's a master with is finally good again.
Even the blind squirrel finds an acorn.
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon May 04, 2015 12:17 am

You are only a master of evil, Khaos.
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Postby jsilv » Mon May 04, 2015 12:19 am

Lucas Siow and PV win GP's? Best weekend of Magic coverage. <3

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Postby Jack » Mon May 04, 2015 2:09 am

And PV wins his local GP, because a deck he's a master with is finally good again.
What tournament, and what deck?
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Postby Valdarith » Mon May 04, 2015 2:25 am

Esper dragons of course.
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Postby windstrider » Mon May 04, 2015 3:05 am

And PV wins his local GP, because a deck he's a master with is finally good again.
What tournament, and what deck?
Grand Prix Sao Paulo with Esper Dragons.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpsao15
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Mon May 04, 2015 3:06 am

I've played against Lucas before when grinding PTQs and he's a class act. Happy to see him win.

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Postby zemanjaski » Mon May 04, 2015 5:22 am

Lucas is gas.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon May 04, 2015 5:25 am

Another day, another abomination from Zem's mind. Whereas others are plagued by the pointlessness of the daily struggle, my burden is endless bad deck ideas.

[deck]BUG Gifts[/deck]
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2 Snapcaster Mage
2 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
2 Thragtusk

Planeswalkers
4 Liliana of the Veil

Spells
3 Abrupt Decay
1 Compulsive Research
1 Engineered Explosives
4 Gifts Ungiven
1 Go for the Throat
1 Golgari Charm
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
1 Life from the Loam
1 Maelstrom Pulse
2 Murderous Cut
1 Raven's Crime
4 Serum Visions
1 Sultai Charm

Lands
1 Alchemist's Refuge
1 Breeding Pool
1 Creeping Tar Pit
2 Drowned Catacomb
1 Forest
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Island
3 Misty Rainforest
1 Overgrown Tomb
3 Polluted Delta
2 Swamp
1 Tectonic Edge
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3 Verdant Catacombs
1 Watery Grave
2 Woodland Cemetery

Sideboard
1 Darkblast
3 Drown in Sorrow
2 Duress
2 Feed the Clans
2 Negate
4 Tarmogoyf
1 Vraska the Unseen*
[/deck]

* Japanese foil.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon May 04, 2015 11:59 am

is Japanese foil Vraska something to point out
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Postby Valdarith » Mon May 04, 2015 12:20 pm

It's probably not even pack foil.
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Postby Valdarith » Mon May 04, 2015 12:22 pm

Just get on the Grixis Delver train. It's a lot more fun than UR was even with Treasure Cruise.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue May 05, 2015 12:00 am

Lost win and in for top 8 of PPTQ yesterday. Despite 56 player event, prizes only to top8. SALT.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Re: [4/5's of Siegevation], Rhino Town

Postby Valdarith » Tue May 05, 2015 1:41 am

We had 38 with prizes for top 8 only. About how many people do you need to start giving to top 16 usually?
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Re: [4/5's of Siegevation], Rhino Town

Postby nme » Tue May 05, 2015 1:56 am

it feels like it's 2005 around here

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Re: [4/5's of Siegevation], Rhino Town

Postby Purp » Tue May 05, 2015 1:58 am

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Re: [4/5's of Siegevation], Rhino Town

Postby Khaospawn » Tue May 05, 2015 2:22 am

Miss my black forumfore skin :(
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Re: [4/5's of Siegevation], Rhino Town

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