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Postby RedNihilist » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:07 pm

Random reply: just out of curiosity I've checked the RDW Modern Primer on MTGS.
The last deck features a set of Vexing Devils.
I don't know what to think anymore.

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Postby Dane » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:08 pm

Hey, don't forget the one black dick in here.

Deck.

I said deck.
Fag.

So who's ready to go get some cocks?

I mean dinner.

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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:12 pm

Random topic: Is there a format with a competitive deck that plays Figure of Destiny? Cause I fucking love that card. Would play again.
Only deck I could find:
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Postby Helios » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:22 pm

I guess fetches aren't that unreasonable. I wish there was somewhere in my area to play Modern. /bitchin&moanin

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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:27 pm

It sees fringe play in Modern and Legacy. Its just that the sort of decks that wants it (RDW or White Weenie) aren't good in their respective formats. It used to be a 3-of in the mana-sink variants of legacy burn, but there have been enough reasonable cards printed in the last few years to oust it (Searing Blaze and now Skull Crack).

Amazing card though, one of my all time favourites.
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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:28 pm

Few things are better than hearing late the next day "I'm still sore".
I know. When you said that to me this morning, I got so excited. :trolo:
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Postby Helios » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:33 pm

I guess there's always EDH. I really want to play hybrids in my mono red, but I don't think people would like that.

Yes, I play excessively sub-optimal EDH lists. We also play 1v1 almost exclusively, so it has never been a huge problem. Anyone else here frequently play EDH?

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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:39 pm

Few things are better than hearing late the next day "I'm still sore".
I know. When you said that to me this morning, I got so excited. :trolo:
As long as it is later the next day and not exactly the next morning - getting a 2-for-1 is important because that's how you get ahead.

See kids? The lessons you learn in games are indicative of a larger, winning strategy for life. Pay attention and learn and you will go far.

nOn an equally serious note, working on this for the next week or so: http://community.ist.utl.pt/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=665

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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:39 pm

Me. I'm a huge EDH nut. I run a 1v1 Kaalia deck, a multiplayer Jaya Ballard deck, and a Nin the Pain Artist deck. I'm considering writing a Primer for Nin.
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Postby Helios » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:48 pm

@Z: Can't tell if sarcasm or srs bsns. By the 4 Legion Loyalists MB, I assume sarcasm.
Me. I'm a huge EDH nut. I run a 1v1 Kaalia deck, a multiplayer Jaya Ballard deck, and a Nin the Pain Artist deck. I'm considering writing a Primer for Nin.
Do so, I'd love to see that. I think I might post my decks on this site sometime, for reference.

I'm a fan of hipster decks; very few staples, tons of cards no one has heard about. Like "6: Regrowth". Colorless. Wizards printed that, and I don't think anyone noticed.

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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:50 pm

I could see -1 Loyalist, +1 Dynacharge, but the deck is actually serious.

Crazy like a fox.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:50 pm

Good evening, everyone!

On the subject of Modern, I wish they would push in the direction of making that more popular. I enjoy Modern a hell of a lot more than Standard. Playing virtually any deck you want is pretty nice. Just not as large a playerbase.
Few things are better than hearing late the next day "I'm still sore".
I know. When you said that to me this
morning, I got so excited. :trolo:
As long as it is later the next day and not exactly the next morning - getting a 2-for-1 is important because that's how you get ahead.

See kids? The lessons you learn in games are indicative of a larger, winning strategy for life. Pay attention and learn and you will go far.

On an equally serious note, working on this for the next week or so: http://community.ist.utl.pt/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=665

All input welcome.
It's been my experience that All-In decks have a plethora of pump spells to make all the little guys hit huge for a turn. Why only one here, and why Dynacharge?
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Postby Christen » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:52 pm

Happy Birthday zem!
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:55 pm

Good evening, everyone!

On the subject of Modern, I wish they would push in the direction of making that more popular. I enjoy Modern a hell of a lot more than Standard. Playing virtually any deck you want is pretty nice. Just not as large a playerbase.
Few things are better than hearing late the next day "I'm still sore".
I know. When you said that to me this morning, I got so excited. :trolo:
As long as it is later the next day and not exactly the next morning - getting a 2-for-1 is important because that's how you get ahead.

See kids? The lessons you learn in games are indicative of a larger, winning strategy for life. Pay attention and learn and you will go far.

On an equally serious note, working on this for the next week or so: http://community.ist.utl.pt/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=665

All input welcome.
It's been my experience that All-In decks have a plethora of pump spells to make all the little guys hit huge for a turn. Why only one
here, and why Dynacharge?
All will be revealed Padawan

Also, have not done a lot of testing...but mostly trying to focus on intrinsic synergies between the cards. Pump spells (a la Gruul Aggro) can lead to awkward spell heavy draws (which start to become common once you're running 10+ spells) and mana problems (a key issue with both Naya Blitz and Gruul Aggro). The trade here is consistency for a slightly lower power level, and the validity of the variant will depend on how that exchange balances out. By being Mono Coloured, you do get to run Boros Reckoner as well, which is significant compensation.

It may very well be that I want a second Dynacharge, because it certainly seems very powerful here (and the Battalion cards are about as good as they can be).
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Postby Helios » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:59 pm

Happy birthday!!!!!!!

For your birthday, a very special present:

You're fucking awesome.

You're welcome.

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Postby Alex » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:01 pm

Sexy words about Dynacharge.
That's right, baby. For once, you're the one playing my pet card instead of the other way around.

(Fuck you for making me play Rally the Peasants.)

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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:03 pm

I do listen sometimes.

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Postby Alex » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:07 pm

I do listen sometimes.

Thanks Helios.
I used to think these types of cards were pretty lame until one day I was watching LSV stream, and in an M13 draft, he was like "I don't know why my opponent is swinging out, I'm just going to take it and go to ten. ...wait, why am I dead? ...oh, Trumpet Blast." I don't think I've ever laughed so hard at a game of Magic in my life.

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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:13 pm

Like a lot of cards, they're not good or bad, just different to the commonly accepted 'wisdom'. Are cards like this frequently bad? Yes. But that is because they don't fit into most traditional builds. In some decks however, they're basically Searing Blaze or better ~ even if I "2-for-1" myself to a creature for theirs; if another guy or two are getting in as well, that is evening out. Combine it with Legion Loyalist or the first strike guys?

To quote LSV, "On a scale of 1 to a 'big game', that is almost assuredly...a big game".
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Postby photodyer » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:22 pm

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Happy Birthday, James!

May your day be fittingly awesome, oh great red mage.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:26 pm

Thanks Jerry!

I am at work! Celebrations have been delayed until the weekend :)
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Postby Aesnath » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:28 pm

I play multiplayer EDH whenever possible (which isn't super frequently). Still, with a good group it's pretty fun. On the other hand, games can go on forever sometimes.

Still, it is a lot of fun.

I play Dakkon Blackblade--when you factor in politics, he's reasonable.

EDIT: Happy Birthday Z!

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Postby TubeHunter » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:32 pm

Happy Birthday Z!

It might be just me, but does anyone hate modern? To me it just feels like a shitty legacy.
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Postby RedNihilist » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:47 pm

Happy b-day man :o

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Postby redthirst » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:56 pm

I had no idea it was your birthday, but Happy Bday zem. Soon you'll be old enough to rent ultra-porn.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:01 am

That would create an awkward tension with the ham challenge. Nonetheless, do go on.
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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:14 am

This clan is full of awkward tensions, why stop at porn?

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Postby Solemn10 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:16 am

Happy birthday z.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:22 am

This clan is full of awkward tensions, why stop at porn?
Thanks to the ham-challenge, I don't even watch porn any more, which is surprisingly satisfying. Certainly have more free time now, so I can vouch for the extra productivity and energy the challenge will bring. Very glad I signed up (even if I fell off the path a few times).
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Postby Fax » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:27 am

Back from Italy! It was pretty fucking awesome, I was afraid a long weekend away with the GF's little sisters would make me want to postpone having kids for a decade but it turned out pretty amazing. I should post some pictures soon as requested :)

It's 1:23AM and I'm physically very tired. GF is asleep by my side, exhausted. Made the mistake of having an espresso after dinner at her father's, so what to do? Read the backlog of clan thread!


Oh cool, it's Z's birthday! Happy birthday man :) :toot:
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:35 am

Tell us more about Italy!

Yeah, I have learned not to drink coffee past about 9pm or I am just not going to sleep, ever (although, I do already have pretty bad sleeping patterns, so the coffee just exaggerates that).

Also, thanks!
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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:37 am

This clan is full of awkward tensions, why stop at porn?
Thanks to the ham-challenge, I don't even watch porn any more, which is surprisingly satisfying. Certainly have more free time now, so I can vouch for the extra productivity and energy the challenge will bring. Very glad I signed up (even if I fell off the path a few times).
Yuuuup! It's a fantastic thing to try, and I definitely feel the benefits. I'm surprisingly not horny though, not in the traditional sense. I do feel more aggressive around women, but not 13 year old schoolboy style.

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:42 am

Happy anniversary of your birth and stuff, zem! :toot:
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Postby Khaospawn » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:42 am

Happy Birthday, Z! For your present, I invite you to come over and I'll share my redhead with you. :)
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:44 am

This clan is full of awkward tensions, why stop at porn?
Thanks to the ham-challenge, I don't even watch porn any more, which is surprisingly satisfying. Certainly have more free time now, so I can vouch for the extra productivity and energy the challenge will bring. Very glad I signed up (even if I fell off the path a few times).
Yuuuup! It's a fantastic thing to try, and
I definitely feel the benefits. I'm surprisingly not horny though, not in the traditional sense. I do feel more aggressive around women, but not 13 year old schoolboy style.
I have noticed this as well. I don't actually think about sex much at all now, where as it used to be a latent consideration (or I would be distracted easily). However, when it is business time, it is business time, which is pretty sweet really. Really happy with the results, and have been going on long enough now that it is habit (or removal of habit? Aesnath, help!).

@ Kaze - thanks!

@ Khaos - thanks! Re: will consider hahaha.
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Postby Alex » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:52 am

What is the challenge, exactly? I gather that it has something to do with jerking off, but what specifically?

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:54 am

Happy Birthday, Z! For your present, I invite you to come over and I'll share my redhead with you. :)
I think I suddenly caught a case of "It's my birthday."

Can it be my birthday guys? GUYS??!?!?!!?!!

Also, happy birthday James. I'd suggest 2/3 pump affects for your deck. The best way to play around supreme verdict is to just kill them.

Also, wizards needs to quite dragging there feat and reprint Ghitu encampment and other manlands. Manlands are some of my favorite things in magic.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:56 am

@ Alex: No beating your meat for 30 days. I don't think you have to quit watching porn, but there wouldn't be any point if you aren't wanking it. Females(or in your case, men) giving you reach arounds is acceptable. The main point is no solo happy time.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:57 am

Yeah me to...give me back Mutavault or Ghitu Encampment dammit. You think another Dynacharge? I can't think of a better alternative right now.
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Postby Alex » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:57 am

@ Alex: No beating your meat for 30 days. I don't think you have to quit watching porn, but there wouldn't be any point if you aren't wanking it. Females(or in your case, men) giving you reach arounds is acceptable. The main point is no solo happy time.
Oh, in that case I've been living this challenge for years.


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