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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:08 am
by Calamity
@ Calamity - Don't disagree with you at all...Chandra is indeed harder to keep alive as I said. The fact that Keranos can flat-out kill things or your opponent once he's established on the board in addition to drawing cards is nuts.
I was trying to say that the strategy wasn't being run because Chandra doesn't fit that role and Keranos might be strong enough to make it happen, not because it's intrinsically bad in this environment (says the guy that isn't following standard at all lol).

...so yeah we're basically agreeing

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:12 am
by photodyer
Yeah, depends on the Izzet support in this set I would imagine. James et al have proven that burn is playable, but that white splash is a key piece of the working deck; I don't know if Izzet can grow the chops in one short set to get there...it will be interesting to see.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:23 am
by photodyer
Just noticed that the rares revealed thus far are very color-heavy...of the 10 we've seen, 8 require xx in a given color. Could just be spoiler order, but interesting just the same.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:29 am
by LP, of the Fires
Godsend is OP. Too bad ALL of whites good cards are three drops.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:29 am
by TBuzzsaw
I think he'll find his way into UWR control for now as a one or two of.

Now that I think about it, I really want to make UWR midrange work. There's something really appealing with having a deck that can run D-Sphere, Stormbreath, and Elspeth in one.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:33 am
by photodyer
Godsend is OP. Too bad ALL of whites good cards are three drops.
Link? Where's it spoiled, LK?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:33 am
by Helios
Sally: good for one thing, and one thing only.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:51 am
by NerdBoyWonder
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:54 am
by Kazekirimaru
That's some pretty epic equipment.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:56 am
by Kazekirimaru
I'm not exactly sure what the flavour is behind "My sword cuts bitches out of existence" but I like it just the same.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:57 am
by LP, of the Fires
Exile's blocking gods so in a sense, it's a godslayer.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:06 am
by TBuzzsaw
I'm not exactly sure what the flavour is behind "My sword cuts bitches out of existence" but I like it just the same.
That needed to be the flavor text.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:21 am
by DerWille
I really like Keranos and Godsend. The raw CA and VCA that card gives is freaking ridiculous. Reveal land, draw a card? Yes, please. Reveal shock, send 3 to the face and then shock for 2 more? Yes, please. Going by Frank's article, 10 blue sources is all the deck would need for 90% chance to have blue by turn 5 so it should be splashable. Could probably get away with less. I'd so want to call this deck American Nukes.

I'd want to try running Godsend in GW hexproof too. Maybe as a 2 of. It makes your guy that much more of a pain in the ass to block.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:33 am
by photodyer
And man, the art is epic on both of those cards. Godsend though...dear gods what an epic Voltron card. Put that on Brimaz and watch the fun, especially with Iroas on the field.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:17 am
by DriftingLifted
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Insert Izzet pun.

Fun, but I don't think this'll make too big of a splash standard wise...Online gut reactions seem to be America control variants.

Cycle of rare flash enchantments too, the red one seems fun, and as someone on reddit pointed out, this magical christmasland play is something I wanna do just cause it'll induce much much rage. Boros Reckoner out. End step flash enchantment, your turn Fated Conflag your Reckoner, 20 the opponent? Mmmmmmm.

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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:53 am
by TBuzzsaw
Cycle of rare flash enchantments too, the red one seems fun, and as someone on reddit pointed out, this magical christmasland play is something I wanna do just cause it'll induce much much rage. Boros Reckoner out. End step flash enchantment, your turn Fated Conflag your Reckoner, 20 the opponent? Mmmmmmm.

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That's only ten damage though.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:58 am
by Platypus
Fated Conflagration gets doubled first, then the damage from Reckoner gets doubled again.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:48 am
by photodyer
Reckoner is such a fun Johnny card...I'm gonna miss it when it rotates. One could possibly build a red midrange deck to shoot the combo, but keeping Reckoner alive and on the board long enough to set it up--eh. Still, Dictate of the Twin Gods is going to be fun in direct-damage decks, if not Standard, then casual for sure. Cast Dictate EOT, untap, then pop Shrine of Burning Rage? Too, too funny.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:01 pm
by Dechs Kaison
Welp. Both UR and UW gods disappointed me. But there's still some neat enchantments coming out. I should be able to make use of a few.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:14 pm
by Valdarith
Keranos is okay. Should have been four mana. He's not super exciting to me.

I really like Dictate of Kruphix though.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:29 pm
by magicdownunder
Dictate of Kruphix seem quite bad too me.

I'm liking; Sigiled Starfish, Godsend, Gnarled Scarhide, Hall of Triumph and Underworld Coinsmith (its a HUMAN....)

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:31 pm
by Dechs Kaison
Dictate cycle? This could be interesting.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:34 pm
by redthirst
Any way we could put up all the spoilers on DtR so I don't have to go through the trouble of checking out Sally on my phone to look up cards every time someone mentions a new spoiler? Is that something someone (else) wants to do?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:38 pm
by Dechs Kaison
Any way we could put up all the spoilers on DtR so I don't have to go through the trouble of checking out Sally on my phone to look up cards every time someone mentions a new spoiler? Is that something someone (else) wants to do?
Second this. I can't get to the Sally Spoilers while I'm at work.

I nominate Kait for the effort. She's always trying to make this place more appealing than Sally anyway.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:39 pm
by redthirst
Kait's already done more for this site than we ever will - give him a break.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:41 pm
by Dechs Kaison
Arrite arrite.

Uh... magic number generator says: Kaze!

He can also come up with his own flavor text for each card. The Godsend line was great. More quality work like that would keep me entertained.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:56 pm
by redthirst
Uh... magic number generator says: Kaze!
I didn't realize that thing could count all the way to Kaze.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:03 pm
by Dechs Kaison
That's what makes it magic.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:05 pm
by Dechs Kaison
Also, new low score while beating 2048: 21244. Got the 2048 block with only a 128, 64, and 32 on the board with a few 8s and 4s.

Now to see how far I can go...

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:06 pm
by Kaitscralt
I've done almost every Rumor Mill thread every set, somebody else take two minutes to copy paste text or upload images. We have enough admins and mods, someone do something.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:07 pm
by Kaitscralt
And whoever chooses to be the hero, don't host Salvation images here

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:12 pm
by redthirst
:link:

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:50 pm
by Valdarith
Dictate of Kruphix seem quite bad too me.
It's a niche card but I like the design. I'm a Johnny/Spike so it appeals to me. It's like Rites of Flourishing without the land clause and you get to flash it in to be up a card plus hold mana open for counterspells instead of having to main phase it.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:01 pm
by Kaitscralt
Taking away the drawback of Howling Mine effects (Greedo draws first) is interesting, but currently there's no need for such an effect to exist, nor has there been since the days of Owling Mine and Sudden Impact.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:07 pm
by Valdarith
Taking away the drawback of Howling Mine effects (Greedo draws first) is interesting, but currently there's no need for such an effect to exist, nor has there been since the days of Owling Mine and Sudden Impact.
Maze's End could probably use it. Drawing into more fogs seems great. Can't think of anything else in Standard or Modern though. Maybe counterburn in Standard?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:11 pm
by Valdarith
Notion Thief combo? Hmmm...

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:19 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
I think Godsend is very poorly designed, seeing as Elspeth can't use it...

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:22 pm
by Stardust
Equip to a creature or planewalker.

Whenever equipped creature blocks or becomes blocked, or whenever equipped planeswalker is attacked...

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:46 pm
by Valdarith
I think Godsend is very poorly designed, seeing as Elspeth can't use it...
Unless Elspeth is printed as a creature...;)

Not likely, but a man can dream.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:57 pm
by Wraith223
Keranos might go in my Nekusar deck to kill creatures and draw more. My favorite god card so far.