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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:36 pm
by Kaitscralt
Rick is real

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:19 pm
by Khaospawn
A real bad ass.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:20 pm
by Khaospawn
He's no Siege Rhino, though.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:32 pm
by Aodh
Also good.
Probably want one Purphoros, so -1 Chandra or Crater for him.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:35 pm
by zemanjaski
Travelling overseas for events is so exciting :)

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:36 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Does anyone else think Ojutai is somewhere between mediocre and unplayable?

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:47 pm
by zemanjaski
It's a 7 mana sorcery in limited; it's extremely mediocre but playable.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:59 pm
by LP, of the Fires
New ojutai. 5/4 for 5 flyer. Heproof if it's untapped. When it deals damage draw a card.

I don't think it's good in standard, but people keep telling me it's the best dragonlord. Which is wrong. Cause that's Atarka. Cause she's amazing.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:04 pm
by Kaitscralt
Ojutai is okay. Depends on what tools control can afford to protect him with.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:06 pm
by Kaitscralt
being able to tap out for ojutai and just let him be until you untap is very nice

he's also in colors that are getting a lot of new tools to test out

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:12 pm
by Thrillho
Mediocre maybe.
Good possibly.
Great unlikely.
Unplayable is unrelated to this card.

Also getting bad-impulse on damage != draw a card.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:06 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Travelling overseas for events is so exciting :)
Aussies consider New Zealand overseas? Mind blown. How long is the flight?

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:17 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Can't imagine more than an 2 hours.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:27 am
by zemanjaski
3.5 hours.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:11 am
by rcwraspy
Can't imagine more than an 2 hours.
Pacific be large.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:12 am
by Khaospawn
Like your mom's vagina.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:15 am
by rcwraspy
Just for that, I'm gonna kill Carl.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:23 am
by Valdarith
You mean Coral.

New Combust is awesome.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:52 am
by Kaitscralt
Coralbust

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:20 am
by Purp
Double PPTQ weekend on dragons release weekend. Has anyone had any thoughts? I think I might stay on jeskai tempo (or maybe tokens), anticipate seems like it could be great in the deck.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:39 am
by photodyer
Anyone have thoughts on a viable, flash-in-the-pan shell that can run Drown in Sorrow, HDF, Anger, Archfiend of Depravity and enchantment hate? I know that I'm going to be seeing GW Devotion, red-based aggro and Naya Walkers...Jund would be interesting but the mana seems too ridiculous.

Much of this is SB material...the question is whether there is an RBx shell that can run BB and RR as needed.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:46 am
by zemanjaski

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:11 pm
by Kaitscralt
300k should do it

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:24 pm
by BlakLanner
Anyone have thoughts on a viable, flash-in-the-pan shell that can run Drown in Sorrow, HDF, Anger, Archfiend of Depravity and enchantment hate? I know that I'm going to be seeing GW Devotion, red-based aggro and Naya Walkers...Jund would be interesting but the mana seems too ridiculous.

Much of this is SB material...the question is whether there is an RBx shell that can run BB and RR as needed.
Perhaps a Mardu Control strategy? Early burn and sweepers, rely on things like Butcher, SBD, Elspeth, and Sorin to kill your opponent.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:54 pm
by Aodh
Anyone have thoughts on a viable, flash-in-the-pan shell that can run Drown in Sorrow, HDF, Anger, Archfiend of Depravity and enchantment hate? I know that I'm going to be seeing GW Devotion, red-based aggro and Naya Walkers...Jund would be interesting but the mana seems too ridiculous.

Much of this is SB material...the question is whether there is an RBx shell that can run BB and RR as needed.
I don't think you want to go all in on an anti-GW deck. You'll just lose to big creature and control strategies.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:44 pm
by photodyer
Anyone have thoughts on a viable, flash-in-the-pan shell that can run Drown in Sorrow, HDF, Anger, Archfiend of Depravity and enchantment hate? I know that I'm going to be seeing GW Devotion, red-based aggro and Naya Walkers...Jund would be interesting but the mana seems too ridiculous.

Much of this is SB material...the question is whether there is an RBx shell that can run BB and RR as needed.
I don't think you want to go all in on an anti-GW deck. You'll just lose to big creature and control strategies.
No, not at all...sorry if I came across that way in my brevity. I think Drown is in a great place right now, and I'd rather be playing it that getting hit by it. Archfiend was a sideboard consideration that I want to take along for the 2nd day of Standard play (whole separate Swiss, not consecutive), but it's not the key. Black and red removal while maintaining access to Erase/Glare is where I'm trying to go. But maybe I'm just trying to ice skate up a hill...

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:15 pm
by Self Medicated
Photo, I haven't seen any list that runs those cards together. I think that's just asking too much of your mana base. Being able to reliably cast Drown or Anger on turn 3 would require at least 19 sources of both [mana]b[/mana] and [mana]r[/mana]. It's just not possible. Now, if you don't need to cast Anger on turn 3, just go black heavy on your base and know that you won't be casting Anger until turn 5-6. At that point, you need to ask yourself if it's really worth it.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:28 pm
by Khaospawn
Is the juice worth the squeeze?

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:34 pm
by Aodh
Just run Rbw with Anger as your 3-mana sweeper and Crux as a 2-of at 5 or something.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:53 pm
by hamfactorial
Who needs a win condition?

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:02 pm
by hamfactorial
20 sweepers 4 Rhino.dek

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:31 am
by LP, of the Fires
Double Dragon. Cause I couldn't think of a good deck for Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon(temur sabertooth+dromaka).

[deck]4 Orator of Ojutai
3 Dragonlord Dramoka
3 Dragonlord Ojutai

2 Last Breath
2 Divination
3 Banishing Light
3 End Hostilities
1 Negate
1 Disdainful Stroke
2 Ojutai's command
2 Dragonlord's Prerogative

2 Narset Transcendant
2 Kiora, The Crashing Wave
2 Elspeth, Sun's champion
2 Ugin, The Spirit Dragon

12 Temples
4 Flooded Strand
1 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
2 Island
2 Plains
2 Forest
1 Windswept Heath
3 Yavimaya Coast[/deck]

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:23 am
by Kaitscralt
run far in the opposite direction from that deck

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:48 am
by Khaospawn
I rate it a 4.

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:49 am
by Khaospawn
Kait, bust out that grading scale!

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:56 am
by LP, of the Fires
run far in the opposite direction from that deck
While the numbers are off, I think the deck will be good when I tune it.

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:21 am
by hamfactorial
As long as you name it Hard-On for Dargons, I'll be happy.

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:30 am
by Jamie
I should just sell my cards and buy into modo. Nearest LGS is an hour away in nowheresville, Iowa

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:05 am
by hamfactorial
MTGO is great if you have nothing but hatred for yourself

:thumbsup:

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:12 am
by Khaospawn
I seem to have plenty. :ohdear: