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Post #59761 by Valdarith » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:17 am

I'm sure there will be a home for the card with all the "counters matter" cards. It looks to be a theme in the new set as well with the new green mythic.
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Post #59762 by TBuzzsaw » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:57 am

I'm sticking with Abzan Gideon/Ob/Sorin Bro-force.
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Post #59763 by hamfactorial » Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:16 pm

I'm in the middle of brewers' frenzy trying to craft Molten Vortex decks in Modern.

So many jank 32 land decks :gonk:

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Post #59764 by Kaitscralt » Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:58 pm

why you gotta be such a budgtown hobo
Lord_Mcdonalds » Yesterday, 3:13 pm wrote: Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Post #59765 by hamfactorial » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:06 pm

Bro have you seen my foil Pauper deck bro

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Post #59766 by Khaospawn » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:14 pm

You never go full foil pauper.
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Post #59767 by Jamie » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:32 am

http://www.starcitygames.com/article/30 ... llacy.html
This is my favorite scg article.
Well, second favorite. The other Jim Davis article about women in the mtg community was genius.
why is this guy still employed?

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Post #59768 by Kaitscralt » Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:52 pm

he's a bad writer who hates women, and even his own girlfriend it seems, fairly typical for an mtg semi pro
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Post #59769 by Kaitscralt » Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:52 pm

see Todd Anderson
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Post #59770 by hamfactorial » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:56 pm

Garfield is shit

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Post #59771 by Self Medicated » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:58 pm

I'll just leave this right here:

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Post #59772 by Platypus » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:16 pm

It's a card.
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Post #59773 by hamfactorial » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:35 pm

The card has text

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Post #59774 by Self Medicated » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:48 pm

The card tells me to do things. Bad things.
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Post #59775 by hamfactorial » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:07 pm

It's an easier to cast Sowing Salt, which is nice. I wonder what the point of Devoid is. Lands with protection? Some optional "reveal a colorless card" casting cost elsewhere?

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Post #59776 by hamfactorial » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:07 pm

Gimme a Devoid Lightning Bolt.

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Post #59777 by Mcdonalds » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:59 pm

Ancient stirring-Esque card maybe?

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Post #59778 by RedNihilist » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:24 pm

Yeah, that card could make RG Tron's mirror even funnier...

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Post #59779 by Purp » Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:10 pm

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Post #59780 by Valdarith » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:00 pm

If I were splashing black, it wouldn't be for Foul-Tongue Shriek. Crackling Doom seems like a much better option.

Edit: brain fart, but Shriek is still a bad card. I'd only play black for good sideboard cards like Self-inflicted Wound.
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Post #59781 by Purp » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:30 am

[deck]
Land (21)
4x Bloodstained Mire
4x Cinder Glade
1x Forest
7x Mountain
1x Windswept Heath
4x Wooded Foothills

Creature (15)
4x Abbot of Keral Keep
2x Goblin Heelcutter
2x Lightning Berserker
4x Monastery Swiftspear
3x Zurgo Bellstriker

Instant (12)
4x Atarka's Command
1x Become Immense
3x Collateral Damage
4x Wild Slash

Sorcery (12)
4x Dragon Fodder
4x Exquisite Firecraft
4x Hordeling Outburst
[/deck]

Decided 21 lands to support a bigger sb Plan. Not sure if the heath is correct, but I like havin one more fetch land because ideally you don't want to play green until turn 3
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Post #59782 by Pedrobear » Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:06 am

Devoid is just a mechanism for R&D to link to the Eldrazi. Being colorless is easy to recognize but they couldn't put a colorless mana cost to 1/3 of an edition without creating something broken or awful. So it's colorless in the flavor but not in the mana cost.

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Post #59783 by hamfactorial » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:07 am

I don't know the answer, Maverick, but I'd like to formally register my opposition to BBD uptalking like a valley girl.

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Post #59784 by hamfactorial » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:18 am

:argh:

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Post #59785 by Khaospawn » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:46 pm

So that new Iron Maiden album is legit.
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Post #59786 by Purp » Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:35 am

Maverick » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:44 pm wrote:Does anyone know what tool/website the SCG team uses to make proxies that look like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=103&v=Gd0fa2C5nY0

I want to save some ink so I don't want to just print entire cards, but something more than plain text would be nice.


I use metadeck.me and just know what the cards do.

I have two 75 card decks sleeved, they each contain 12 diff archetypes
http://i.imgur.com/ejJI6yp.jpg

Scg just writes real nicely in pieces on paper with sharpies
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Post #59787 by Purp » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:02 am

Just saw the ones you are referring to. As a designer, this is my best guess to what they do.

They take the card images into photoshop (you can use a free program called GiMP, liteally the freeware photoshop), and then they use the rectangle tool to draw a white box on top of the art... They do this because in theory they do not have the right to broadcast unreleased art (it's essentially free promotion for scg to hype cards), and then they write the name of the card bigger in sharpie On the white box so you can see it via camera.

Then obviously they just cut them out and slip the paper in a sleeve with a shitty bulk card or basicland
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Post #59788 by Platypus » Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:53 am

Khaospawn » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:46 am wrote:So that new Iron Maiden album is legit.


After several listens that's my conclusion as well. It's really solid.
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Post #59789 by Purp » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:27 pm

The album feels very Opeth to me, and Operh just does it better
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Post #59790 by Khaospawn » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:52 pm

In what way does it remind you of Opeth?
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Post #59791 by Khaospawn » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:52 pm

Happy Birthday, DtR!
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Khaospawn » Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:52 am wrote:Happy Birthday, DtR!

It's a good day to die

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Post #59793 by Purp » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:04 pm

Khaospawn » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:52 am wrote:In what way does it remind you of Opeth?


Whoops I was listening to Opeth when I said that. Should have said In Flames, just the upbeat agressivr tempos with a lot of vocals. Falconer as well
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Post #59794 by Self Medicated » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:11 pm

I use http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/ to make all my proxies and tokens.
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Post #59795 by hamfactorial » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:17 pm

I buy high quality proxies from China

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Post #59796 by Khaospawn » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:31 pm

Purp » Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:04 pm wrote:
Khaospawn » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:52 am wrote:In what way does it remind you of Opeth?


Whoops I was listening to Opeth when I said that. Should have said In Flames, just the upbeat agressivr tempos with a lot of vocals. Falconer as well

Iron Maiden sounds like Iron Maiden to me. :shrug:
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Post #59797 by Platypus » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:36 pm

Btw Khaos...any updates on that Mono Red Scrumper/Khaos Deck Wins deck of yours? I'm taking it to WMCQ (and I will put that name on the decklist...).
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Post #59798 by Khaospawn » Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:47 am

I've been experimenting taking out a Stoke and a Strike for another land and a Regent, but I think the deck can still stand as is.

Without taking too much time to write out a SB guide, I'll copy/paste some excerpts from a FB conversation I was having with ham tonight about the deck.

Ham:
I went 3-2 in the league so I broke even, losing the last match to bad top decks (lots of outs, didn't draw them for multiple turns)
I'm tweaking the list a bit, too, I think fliers are better than Goblin tokens
I bumped up to 4 Regents and swapped the Outburst and Rabble with Phoenixes, went to 22 land. I'm trying out Frenzied Goblin over Heelcutter
Me:
I actually trimmed a Stoke and a Strike for a land and a Regent. I think you need the Outburst since it lets you achieve maximum spell velocity by casting Stoke for free and letting you win the race by attacking in the air.
Heelcutter needs to stay. It is SO much better than Frenzied.
Ham:
Ok, I'm only trying Frenzied Goblin in the practice room to avoid dumb choices. Heelcutter is really that good?
I cut the Titan's Strength too, have I shamed you?
Me:
Typical boarding is just removing the Outbursts and Rabbles and some Slashes (depending)or Eidolons against Abzan and big Green for birds, roast, harnesses, and Firecrafts.
Titan's Strength is huge. It lets you dig for land, activate ferocious, attack into caryatids and coursers, and even does weird things like make a bird big when you have to suicide attack an Ojutai or something
Heelcutter helped me make it to the finals. Against Abzan, it's just a beating/
Ham:
OK, I'll trust your judgment on the Outbursts and play more with the deck. I found myself in ground stall a lot and wishing I had more fliers at 3
Me:
Now I have REALLY been considering playing Chandra over the Rabbles.
And T-Strength is huge with her
You want to have a good goldfish and Rabbles + Outburst give you that.
Ham:
I think the card I'm pretty impressed with is Searing Blood
Least impressed, sorry
Terrible autocorrect!
Me:
But Rabbles and Heelcutters are bad vs Aggro decks, so they come out for more removal.
And sometimes Outburst is bad (but not Rabble), so you replace them with Birds.
The deck is very malleable postboard but you need to have that strong aggro game for G1 with the ability to shift gears if need be.
Searing Blood is either the nuts or terrible. That's why I only went down to 2 when everyone else was running 4.
Ham:
OK, I was running into situations where Rabble and Outburst were both really bad. I assumed the cards did much the same thing
Me:
It's usually a swap for Firecraft in the right matchup
Ham:
I'd feel much better with Searing Blood in the board
I brought in Firecraft a lot when I took out Blood
Roast is really good
Me:
Rabble is for the quick clock. Outburst is mainly there for free stokes and a blocking force. But there is a natural synergy there.
By all means, customize as you see fit. The meta has shifted a bit since I designed this monster weeks ago lol But every piece in the deck and the numbers were very well thought out. grin emoticon
Ham:
Heh, I haven't strayed far. I had a blast playing it
Me:
It's very much like Dos Rakis back in the day. Just with no color screw lol
Ham:
Breaking even in an established format on my first try was a good feeling
Me:
LOL Yeah!
I felt like that when I chewed through the 5k
Ham:
I credit you, the Mountains practically tapped themselves for me
Lightning Berserker is great too, so many feels from Stonewright
Me:
He's great. But I do board him out a lot since most x/1's are bad vs aggro unless you're blocking (see Outburst)
But yeah, he brought back all the feels when he was my T1 drop and my opponent played 2 or more temples in a row while I just dropped lands and attacked for more and more each turn while my hand kept getting bigger lol
Ham:
Haha, yeah! I destroyed some Abzan tapland guy with T1 berserker and just kept pumping
Dude didn't kill it until T4
Thanks for the 5 damage brah
Me:
One of the most powerful things you can do is lead with a Zurgo, then drop a Swifty with a Slash either to the dome or deal with a blocker. It's a huge play.
Take 6 on turn 2 lol
that's when it feels like a burn deck
Ham:
Zurgo is pretty nice, I like him more than I thought I would
Me:
yeah me too. He even blocks tokens. I've made an attack only to play another just to have him untapped to block tokens
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Post #59799 by Valdarith » Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:09 am

Ham getting dem Stonewright feels.
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