Open Site Blathering (formerly Advice from iridium ITT)

[Shalako]

Sene/talore could you please answer my questions if you are able?

[Pendulum]

Ich bin ein berliner.

[Shalako]

"Only two weeks before Kennedy had spoken in more conciliatory tones, speaking of "improving relations with the Soviet Union": in response to Kennedy's Berlin speech, Nikita Khrushchev, days later, remarked that "one would think that the speeches were made by two different Presidents."

This is the only thing at all relevant to that.

[Pendulum]

"Only two weeks before Kennedy had spoken in more conciliatory tones, speaking of "improving relations with the Soviet Union": in response to Kennedy's Berlin speech, Nikita Khrushchev, days later, remarked that "one would think that the speeches were made by two different Presidents."

This is the only thing at all relevant to that.

Sigh.

It means I've failed.

[Second Harkius]

Holy shit just listen to yourself

Not everyone wants to be paraded around in a private appeal forum indefinitely so you and the 'decency posse' you've saddled up with can unburden your consciences.

The whole 'unbanning in waves' stinks of trying to let back a few 'staff approved' few while keeping out other banned members with equally grievous bans.

Sorry everyone doesn't want to do that dance. No hurt feelings I hope...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lg51dzWHJE

[Kaitscralt]

Oh Boubs, say it ain't so.

[Captain Murphy]

I'm surprised it took only exactly a month to the day for me to finally be suspended and not just lose CI access, I was thinking I would be waiting 3 months in the hole.

[Captain Murphy]

So I guess congrats on the productivity boost of your staff

[Shalako]

"Only two weeks before Kennedy had spoken in more conciliatory tones, speaking of "improving relations with the Soviet Union": in response to Kennedy's Berlin speech, Nikita Khrushchev, days later, remarked that "one would think that the speeches were made by two different Presidents."

This is the only thing at all relevant to that.

Sigh.

It means I've failed.

How in the World am I supposed to gleam that from you posting an excerpt of the most successful speeches by the most loved president ever?

[Col. Khaddafi]

tbf this thread probably had ran its course around post #50.

Hearing "this was all a misunderstanding and I'm sure the staff did nothing wrong" lost any noverlty around the nth time it was posted. Sure the first 10 times were pretty hilarious, but the joke did get overused, and at this point it just looks like an old toilet rag.

[Pendulum]

"Only two weeks before Kennedy had spoken in more conciliatory tones, speaking of "improving relations with the Soviet Union": in response to Kennedy's Berlin speech, Nikita Khrushchev, days later, remarked that "one would think that the speeches were made by two different Presidents."

This is the only thing at all relevant to that.

Sigh.

It means I've failed.

How
in the World am I supposed to gleam that from you posting an excerpt of the most successful speeches by the most loved president ever?

Well that's kind of the problem. I don't have Azrael's gift for speeches or mafia, I don't have Scumbag's gift for raging eloquence, but still it behooves me to say something sometimes, or at least I like to pretend I have that right; so about the best you're probably going to get is perhaps a veiled statement that I have seen the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, and hope that someone here is a beatnik.
Dig?

[Senori]

I will not be making an appeal to the exact same morally corrupt staff that plotted to get me banned.

uh huh

[Pendulum]

I liked "k" better, Senori.

Edit- by which I mean, you should never disrupt your emotions.

[( G_R )]

I will not be making an appeal to the exact same morally corrupt staff that plotted to get me banned.

uh huh

this my shit

[( G_R )]

I will not be making an appeal to the exact same morally corrupt staff that plotted to get me banned.

uh huh

this my shit

All the mods stomp your feet like this

[iamabadman]

so is it ok to start ripping into people?


or do i just keep shitting in the corner like the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqds0B_meys

[Col. Khaddafi]

badman, this thread has been a troll thread since its inception so be my guest. I have still to find any advice ITT

[iamabadman]

elom/senori, go fuck yourself

galspic, go fuck yourself

sene, id tell you to go fuck yourself but you would run and cry because internet drama you fucking shut in,

nai, stop fucking animals and i hope you die by a fire you fucking furfag

boub, get your head out of your ass and see that the appeals wont work if staff has a grudge.

talore i have no beef with you but others might idk.

[Thrillho]

I mean, I think these dialogs have been productive, even if they took a long time to get going or accomplish anything, and even if that accomplishment looks pretty minor. I appreciate that staff from MTGS have taken the time to come over here when they never had to in the first place. You can't give everyone what they want every time they want it. I know there was a lot of "more of the same" from both sides in this discussion, but that it wasn't all more of the same is just another example of the baby steps of progress this exercise has been.

Shout outs to Harku and TCM for dancing the line between progressive voice and stone troll to keep this thread interesting. Props to Onar for unsuccessfully appealing to make his site the source of our appeals. Props to Scumbag for roller coaster riding his rage train. Props to KCW for his use of the Super Soldier Serum and never changing in 7 years.

[Kaitscralt]

I come here on behalf of MTGS

let us fuck

[Pendulum]

Wait a sec.
See, when I read Bibi's latest comment what I got from it was "incoming appeals will be met with such scrutiny, and with so much breathing down the mod's necks to not be biased against any of the userbase, that they can't help but succeed. We just want to make it look fair so we don't have more mods going Blut." I naturally assumed that you guys were pissed because you didn't want your re-entry into the MTGS world lorded over you by a bunch of mods who only got their power to be part of the process by an epic amount of whining, and by a staff that wanted to wash their hands of the whole sordid ordeal without any act of clemency.
Was I that wrong?

Edit- forgot to make a reference to Checkpoint Charlie.

[Col. Khaddafi]

I naturally assumed that you guys were pissed because you didn't want your re-entry into the MTGS world lorded over you by a bunch of mods who only got their power to be part of the process by an epic amount of whining, and by a staff that wanted to wash their hands of the whole sordid ordeal without any act of clemency.
Was I that wrong?.

Yup, that's fairly accurate.

[Blackhound]

well ill be appealing sometime tommorow, heads up.

[Mogadishu Jones]

Hey guys, long time no see!

As some of you probably know, we're finally moving forward:

• People who want to give it a try will be able to appeal their ban, regardless of previous rules of ... unappealability? Yeah, let's go with that word.
• The decision will be left to the mod team. We had discussions on leaving it to admins only, global + admins only, but letting everyone decides seems to be the best way to do things.
• Appeals will probably be processed by waves to avoid rushing/congestion.
• The Gutter will stay closed for now, I really don't want it to get in the way of reintegrating people in the community. We might be able to talk about
  it much further down the road, but it won't come back in its old form that was creating way too many problems.
• People are expected to stop messing around with a couple of things to make things easier on everyone (Gimmick accounts, account sharing, etc...). On the other hand, mods will take into account the weird situation we're in when they vote on appeals, I think a lot of them understand where we are at this point, and want things to be resolved as much as you do.

I think that's about it. If you feel there's a problem at any point, feel free to PM me on MTGS and I'll look into it.

I cant send pms on mtgs.

Can you tell me which wave my appeal is in? Its been a week since I was last contacted by my caseworker and im moving toward month five of my appeal. Thanks.

[Mogadishu Jones]

I think ot should be noted how gladly and willingly I have attemtpted to engage in a pegit non-troll appeals process this whole time.

[Blackhound]

with all respect khadaffi im still not sold on the fact mods are corrupt. Did some of them mess up last year ? yeah but corrupt ? no.

[Col. Khaddafi]

At this juncture I have no reason not to believe that there was a plot to ban me and other Gutter members, as attested by the leak and the timing of my retroactive infractions.

The lack of willingness of the staff at striking a compromise (option B.) and going beyond the same tired arguments that Nai rehashed here does not sway me from believing in the honesty of the leaks warnings.

But I mean, its just my own opinion. I've made an effort at moving on past the bannings and move to a compromise, but if the staff insist in their appeal under closed doors approach as the only way to fight these invalid sanctions, I'm really not gonna bother. Plus the suspension of pinkfloyd shows their lack of willing at trying to strike a compromise and think out of the box. Its their application of their letter of the law in a totally braindead way (as usual). I've done that dance too many times to care going for another round.

As I
said, all those who have faith in the willingness of the staff in reforming their misguided ways should appeal, and you can ask me for any assistance on this endeavor if needed. I even think many will be unbanned if else as an effort to foster divisions in the banned members ranks and/or doing a little bit of PR ops. So now its the correct time for those who have faith on this process. Just not my cup of Tea thanks.

[Mogadishu Jones]

I am the Lord of the Dance said me.

[Col. Khaddafi]

stats plz

[ExarionUniverse1]

I mean, I think these dialogs have been productive, even if they took a long time to get going or accomplish anything, and even if that accomplishment looks pretty minor. I appreciate that staff from MTGS have taken the time to come over here when they never had to in the first place. You can't give everyone what they want every time they want it. I know there was a lot of "more of the same" from both sides in this discussion, but that it wasn't all more of the same is just another example of the baby steps of progress this exercise has been.

Shout outs to Harku and TCM for dancing the line between progressive voice and stone troll to keep this thread interesting. Props to Onar for unsuccessfully appealing to make his
site the source of our appeals. Props to Scumbag for roller coaster riding his rage train. Props to KCW for his use of the Super Soldier Serum and never changing in 7 years.

Thank you but I am still helping you guys by slowly changing MTGS mod mindset as many can confirm...

and before Harkius starts his skepticism, I would like tell him that no matter what he and his allies are attempting to do to derail this process of reconciliation, I will be there and counter them.

The gloves have come off Hark and the knives are out.

Take it as a threat or warning , but I will not allow your personal agenda of vengeance to iridium affect MTGS members and MTC members.

With total resolve, Onar.

[Col. Khaddafi]

Thank you but I am still helping you guys by slowly changing MTGS mod mindset as many can confirm...

Your efforts are appreciated Onar. At this rate I think we can solidly expect an apology from the staff at how the gutter bannings turned out by 2021, after the last appeals are processed in 2017.

Don't give up, its a rocky road out there, but remember, its the travel that counts!

[Pendulum]

Did... did Onar just threa-.... Oh, nevermind.

Christ on a bike.

[Second Harkius]

Your efforts are appreciated Onar. At this rate I think we can solidly expect an apology from the staff at how the gutter bannings turned out by 2021, after the last appeals are processed in 2017.

Don't give up, its a rocky road out there, but remember, its the travel that counts!

Maybe when the mods start missing the old (good) GRRR, or when the gutter turncoats feel remorse for their actions, or when the decency posse wakes up one day and feels dead inside, we'll finally see a real apology. Maybe some time around Ravnica 3.0.

Rav 1 - TBGITE begins
Rav 2 - Gutter closing
Rav 3 - Reconciliation?

[Blackhound]

lol onar

[Mogadishu Jones]

I mean, I think these dialogs have been productive, even if they took a long time to get going or accomplish anything, and even if that accomplishment looks pretty minor. I appreciate that staff from MTGS have taken the time to come over here when they never had to in the first place. You can't give everyone what they want every time they want it. I know there was a lot of "more of the same" from both sides in this discussion, but that it wasn't all more of the same is just another example of the baby steps of progress this exercise has been.

Shout outs
to Harku and TCM for dancing the line between progressive voice and stone troll to keep this thread interesting. Props to Onar for unsuccessfully appealing to make his site the source of our appeals. Props to Scumbag for roller coaster riding his rage train. Props to KCW for his use of the Super Soldier Serum and never changing in 7 years.

Thank you but I am still helping you guys by slowly changing MTGS mod mindset as many can confirm...

and before Harkius starts his skepticism, I would like tell him that no matter what he and his allies are attempting to do to derail this process of reconciliation, I will be there and counter them.

The gloves have come off Hark and the knives are out.

Take it as a threat or warning , but I will not allow your personal agenda of vengeance to iridium affect MTGS members and MTC members.

With total resolve, Onar.

I've got your back dawg, you are not in this alone!

[Blackhound]

Did... did Onar just threa-.... Oh, nevermind.

Christ on a bike.

yes

[Shalako]

I have such High Hopes for my appeal.

With the Staff not answering my questions in the thread and instead trolling, I'm sure they will answer my questions in a private subforum and it won't yet again be a waste of everyone's time.

GoodJob Guys you are Hope you are happy with your powersss

[Second Harkius]

3 of the sally admins have stopped by here today to see what crops are growing from their seeds

[Galspanic]

Can you tell me which wave my appeal is in? Its been a week since I was last contacted by my caseworker and im moving toward month five of my appeal. Thanks.

The thread in the Mod Lounge about your appeal was posted on 1-10-2013. The last post today was post #253. Please don't think that it's being ignored.

[Galspanic]

Who changed my Avatar? I like it!